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It worked passively when it did. I'm going with Altair for ParadoxRegiement's reasons, it doesn't look like having a capable attack without Causality Manipulation is good enough to me.
So GK has a troll cannon that shoots at lightspeed which disintegrates the likes of Altair? I guess the only way to outhax is either 14th movement or teleporting away, but I don't know enough to tell the result.
@Dienomite22
https://i.imgur.com/IRwJ5LH.png
According to the wiki it doesn't work, Altair deletes the root universe and create a separate root and Altair can erase or existence exchange type 3 immortality Kars with ease.
I'm not taking the Tsukumojuku statements. Feel free to work on your...
@Dienomite22 Not according to this wiki, Beyond cannot affect Dio's opponents, otherwise Dio would be on 2-A level.
If the opposing side likes to assume Beyond is on 2-C level then it needs to be proven that Beyond shares the capabilities Holopsicon has, in affecting Dio's opponents, which...
This is the impression of Beyond that is created on me from my reading on the story element, when the opponent has more aces in the hole than Dio himself to bring him down enough Beyond stops working until he either finds a way back up or is gone forever.
That's why Dio can't hold his own...
To add to it, Beyond works "as long as Dio believes in it" meaning it depends on Dio's confidence. Every time Dio meets his match and is on the backfoot it's support turns shaky, and Kars being low 2-C himself means Beyond's support will be spotty regardless of Beyond's interaction with Kars.
The only info I see on Beyond says that it depends on Dio and has *limited combat usage unlike Altair who uses hers to kill people and does so much more potently. To quote J-Man "Outline origin would work." after that Altair destroys 8-C Kars or erases the universe to make sure he doesn't come...
Don't think this will get us anywhere. Listing gimmicks and stating that the copies would be stronger is not giving a reasonable answer when Altair already displayed plot manip against multiple verses worked the same. Infinite is infinite, but that statement will not get Altair a bonus point...
That puts Kars' ability copy into question. Altair is an independent existence whose Plot Manipulation abilities are undetailed and undefined in JoJo verse and mechanics are not included in the said verse, while Altair remains as the crossover fairy. The fact that Hangaku is exactly a stand...
It took her a moment and she showed no signs of struggle at doing it, so I'm guessing she can delete 10 all the same? The fact that she does it remains.
This board is weeird.
I wrote up in another thread on why she is conceptually as broken as a character could get, but for vsbattles' purposes it makes sense for them to take her final known self with the feats she had into account.
https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1107844
It is so broken that this character could...
Oh, quick response. I would like to elaborate a bit on my point just so we are on the same page. I hope to take your comment regarding limitlessness to heart, as the series itself has already established the idea of acceptance, and demonstrated it quite comprehensively when Sirius did only beat...
Hi there. Here's something for you from the guidebook. Sirius Rebor is listed as a separate character from both Sirius and Altair. Pardon my ignorance but I think post 21 Altair should be as an exception to talk about for VS Battles, since one may assume can become anything or have the ability...