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Nah it's just treated as a large but unquantifiable increase
Dojutsu can boost power, this is very obvious with stuff like Sharingan and Rinnegan. How does the extraction being complete mean anything in this discussion? There's no reason he can't just have an upgraded K1 and K2 now. We even see...
I mean I don't doubt that they grew stronger in some capacity, I'm just doubtful that they got a Kurama Avatar/Perfect Susanoo level amp from one fight. Wouldn't be the first time characters have gained huge fighting amps in a short period of time, but still.
Endurance isn't about stats tho. If Isshiki kicked off Naruto's arm or punched a hole through Sasuke's stomach and they kept fighting that'd be endurance, but their bodies remained just fine. We also see in literally the same fight that it's not like the series is afraid of showing grievous...
Agree with characters scaling to 5-B, but why is Base NL Code assumed to be above Jigen? I'm also skeptical of Isshiki being thousands of times stronger than Naruto and Sasuke since he was indeed trying to kill them. Imo downscaling that Sub-Jigen-Jigen tier of characters to Baseline Planet...
The Karma pattern is clearly less developed and he doesn't even have the dojutsu. Very little reason to think it's stronger, especially by feats. That one statement is not clear enough to override everything against it being >TE
https://www.grammarly.com/blog/appeal-to-ignorance-fallacy/...
1. Apparently exponential isn't clear cut enough for a multiplier on VSBW
2. In the raws the implication is more just wildly different (in ability, strength, etc.); on another level; in a different league; a world apart; far better
Ehm well actually Jigen is only above Naruto with the Juubi's chakra, No Limiters Code is a Nerfed Sasuke rival, the whole verse loses to Juubito cause Jura is part of a juvenile Juubi :geek:
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I mean it's plain to see that it's not the same as what he used against Code, so it could just be a lesser version of channeling his power.
No, you're the one that claimed that he can't use it, I'm just saying it's unprovable either way so an argument can't be based around that.
I'm...
Against Kawaki
How sure are you about that? Also I don't see Boruto calling TE channeling, just Eida. Even if he did mean what you said, him thinking he can control it better than before doesn't mean he's gonna take the risk.
It really wasn't that big. Also TE Boruto not doing it doesn't mean...
Might mean he can channel it better without risk, since True Essence does cause him to possibly lose control. So he can channel it better than K1 which has no risk, but not necessarily as much as TE which can turn sour quickly. Would also explain why he implies Nerfed Naruto and Sasuke are above...
Doesn't have the side eye pattern though, and he develops it later, so it's not like it was just forgotten. Might be an inbetween of K1 and True Essence.
I mean in this case regen being a factor is just stated blatantly. Also regardless of how you slice it, Himawari at best showed better endurance than Sasuke, not durability in terms of her body being less damaged.
Not including chapter 11 stuff since I'm waiting for the official release:
10. Sarada
9. Delta
8. Kawaki
7. Code
5/6. Bug/Matsuri
4. Hidari
1/2/3. Jura/Boruto/Daemon
Eida could also be on the list, but idk how to rank her since she's entirely hax based and has no stat scaling.
I recall the good ol' days when I argued that too (maybe less the Sannin>>>FKS Gokage part, but I did have them above), but ion think that's very consistent overall
I didn't say that Sakura's as strong as Naruto and Sasuke, just that she's Six Paths level. She's strong enough to be a notable assistance for them and isn't hugely stat cliffed, but she's definitely inferior. The raws also could be translated as stab in the back, referencing the moment at the...