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  1. MinatoSparkle

    The KCM Minato upgrade y'all knew was coming

    Bumping to keep thread from necroing
  2. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    We're yapping hard icl
  3. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    Nah it's just treated as a large but unquantifiable increase Dojutsu can boost power, this is very obvious with stuff like Sharingan and Rinnegan. How does the extraction being complete mean anything in this discussion? There's no reason he can't just have an upgraded K1 and K2 now. We even see...
  4. MinatoSparkle

    Boruto One Shots Shippuden

    What Padaruyos said (other than the last sentence)
  5. MinatoSparkle

    Boruto One Shots Shippuden

    I'm fine with that but perhaps we could get a staff vote just in case it doesn't require arguing
  6. MinatoSparkle

    Boruto One Shots Shippuden

    The discussion is them downscaling from Isshiki which makes them 5-B
  7. MinatoSparkle

    Boruto One Shots Shippuden

    I mean that's not explicitly stated but it can definitely be inferred from the fact that his body started failing immediately after the fight
  8. MinatoSparkle

    Boruto One Shots Shippuden

    Maybe the only problem is that they still implied they were significantly below Jigen
  9. MinatoSparkle

    Boruto One Shots Shippuden

    I mean I don't doubt that they grew stronger in some capacity, I'm just doubtful that they got a Kurama Avatar/Perfect Susanoo level amp from one fight. Wouldn't be the first time characters have gained huge fighting amps in a short period of time, but still.
  10. MinatoSparkle

    Boruto One Shots Shippuden

    Endurance isn't about stats tho. If Isshiki kicked off Naruto's arm or punched a hole through Sasuke's stomach and they kept fighting that'd be endurance, but their bodies remained just fine. We also see in literally the same fight that it's not like the series is afraid of showing grievous...
  11. MinatoSparkle

    Boruto One Shots Shippuden

    yes
  12. MinatoSparkle

    Boruto One Shots Shippuden

    Agree with characters scaling to 5-B, but why is Base NL Code assumed to be above Jigen? I'm also skeptical of Isshiki being thousands of times stronger than Naruto and Sasuke since he was indeed trying to kill them. Imo downscaling that Sub-Jigen-Jigen tier of characters to Baseline Planet...
  13. MinatoSparkle

    Shanks vs Kakashi

    😭
  14. MinatoSparkle

    Shanks vs Kakashi

    ?? What is there to debunk?
  15. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    You mean on the wiki or in general?
  16. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    The Karma pattern is clearly less developed and he doesn't even have the dojutsu. Very little reason to think it's stronger, especially by feats. That one statement is not clear enough to override everything against it being >TE https://www.grammarly.com/blog/appeal-to-ignorance-fallacy/...
  17. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    Don't forget Boruto
  18. MinatoSparkle

    Shanks vs Kakashi

    1. Apparently exponential isn't clear cut enough for a multiplier on VSBW 2. In the raws the implication is more just wildly different (in ability, strength, etc.); on another level; in a different league; a world apart; far better
  19. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

  20. MinatoSparkle

    Shanks vs Kakashi

  21. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    Ehm well actually Jigen is only above Naruto with the Juubi's chakra, No Limiters Code is a Nerfed Sasuke rival, the whole verse loses to Juubito cause Jura is part of a juvenile Juubi :geek:
  22. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    I'm fine with KM0 Himawari>K1 Kawaki
  23. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    I mean either way unsealed Kurama is confirmed to be Founders level and no higher
  24. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    Backhanded her then shot out a rapid fire Bijuudama laser probably
  25. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    🤷‍♂️ I mean it's plain to see that it's not the same as what he used against Code, so it could just be a lesser version of channeling his power. No, you're the one that claimed that he can't use it, I'm just saying it's unprovable either way so an argument can't be based around that. I'm...
  26. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    Against Kawaki How sure are you about that? Also I don't see Boruto calling TE channeling, just Eida. Even if he did mean what you said, him thinking he can control it better than before doesn't mean he's gonna take the risk. It really wasn't that big. Also TE Boruto not doing it doesn't mean...
  27. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    Might mean he can channel it better without risk, since True Essence does cause him to possibly lose control. So he can channel it better than K1 which has no risk, but not necessarily as much as TE which can turn sour quickly. Would also explain why he implies Nerfed Naruto and Sasuke are above...
  28. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    Doesn't have the side eye pattern though, and he develops it later, so it's not like it was just forgotten. Might be an inbetween of K1 and True Essence.
  29. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    Is it really concrete that Boruto used True Essence against him
  30. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    I mean he matched Boruto and was stated to be above Code, so...
  31. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    I mean in this case regen being a factor is just stated blatantly. Also regardless of how you slice it, Himawari at best showed better endurance than Sasuke, not durability in terms of her body being less damaged.
  32. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    She has regen, in terms of actual durability she was faring worse
  33. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    Idk about that she's more bloodied than Sasuke
  34. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    Not including chapter 11 stuff since I'm waiting for the official release: 10. Sarada 9. Delta 8. Kawaki 7. Code 5/6. Bug/Matsuri 4. Hidari 1/2/3. Jura/Boruto/Daemon Eida could also be on the list, but idk how to rank her since she's entirely hax based and has no stat scaling.
  35. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    I recall the good ol' days when I argued that too (maybe less the Sannin>>>FKS Gokage part, but I did have them above), but ion think that's very consistent overall
  36. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    It's kinda wild how Ay has KCM tier physicals but is pretty much portrayed as Sannin level overall
  37. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    Dam his win rate for the first half was pretty good
  38. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    I didn't say that Sakura's as strong as Naruto and Sasuke, just that she's Six Paths level. She's strong enough to be a notable assistance for them and isn't hugely stat cliffed, but she's definitely inferior. The raws also could be translated as stab in the back, referencing the moment at the...
  39. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    That kinda thing gives me flashbacks Edit: Also it's wild that the first option when I type "Sakura caught up" is "Sakura caught up meme"
  40. MinatoSparkle

    Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

    I wouldn't be surprised if I've heard them, lemme precog a few: distance (for 1 and 3) chakra volume isn't proportional to strength the clone doesn't have nearly as much chakra as the original Sakura wasn't enough on her own, Obito said she'd provide the bare minimum in tandem with Naruto
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