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  1. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Yeah, I can see a use for the page, then. I'm not opposed to a rewritten version of it on that basis. Size analogues are present even in proper qualitative differences, ofc, but it doesn't seem too far-fetched for a verse to try and associate this stuff with more conventional size.
  2. Ultima_Reality

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    That doesn't really change what I said. Think back to the example I gave: Is the 2-dimensional object in question only infinite "in comparison with a 1-D object"? Perhaps in some respect, but it's also infinite in-and-of-itself because of its extension in the x-axis. Same can apply here.
  3. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    The page itself seems to exclusively refer to the "metaphysically superior" kind of cosmological layer when it talks about hierarchies. With physical and metaphysical differences being separated, you'd have to do a complete rewrite of the page for it to fit in. I don't know how worth it that...
  4. Ultima_Reality

    Divine Creator(Marvel Comics) Profile

    I'll take a look later.
  5. Ultima_Reality

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    As it stands, none of this suffices, no. The Demon World would ultimately end up falling under the "significant size" caveat, and a description identifying it as infinite doesn't do much to appease that. Mostly because it is obviously possible to be finite with respect to one axis, but not...
  6. Ultima_Reality

    The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

    By the way, I ignored them because I don't take umbrage at any of the insinuations above, really. I class myself as just scaling wherever my reasoning leads me, but I am obviously not infallible, and I have no problem with the idea of there being other people around to keep my biases in check...
  7. Ultima_Reality

    The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

    Fascinating.
  8. Ultima_Reality

    The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

    Well? Which ones?
  9. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    1. Yeah, though I'll probably expand those types a bit, later. 2. Yeah, insofar as the character is greater than any single dimensional space. Most applications of the ability (e.g. Reducing dimensionality) probably don't make sense when applied to characters like that, either.
  10. Ultima_Reality

    The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

    God. This will take a while.
  11. Ultima_Reality

    Give me scans.

    Give me scans.
  12. Ultima_Reality

    1. Yeah. 2. Depends on whether the verse counts the laws of logic as among the mathematical...

    1. Yeah. 2. Depends on whether the verse counts the laws of logic as among the mathematical conditions that might cause a universe to be instantiated in it. 3. Yeah. Unless it falls under the stipulations in the FAQ. 4. Under certain stipulations. 5. No, infinite layers into High 1-A is not...
  13. Ultima_Reality

    New Staff Promotions

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  14. Ultima_Reality

    J.M. DeMatteis(Marvel Cosmology Split)

    I would hold off until the Tiering System revisions are formally applied for this.
  15. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Tier 2 wasn't in the aim of the revisions, so our weird present standards for Low 2-C remain unchanged for now.
  16. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Might be fine. See below for the reason I put that in. True. "Levels of infinity" would give off the impression that the new Tiering System still works off on some ill-defined notion that can be equated both to dimensional levels and to metaphysical differences, as we did before. I don't mind...
  17. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    k
  18. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    For my part: I already said that I don't have an issue with waiting. It's not like we're in any sort of rush to apply this. You can take the time you need, as far as I'm concerned.
  19. Ultima_Reality

    The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

    Depends on what this "They are concepts" entails. If the pillars are all just the same undifferentiated "concept" then that's not inherently an issue, given robust enough statements. Overall boils down to the description given to them rather than the name they're called by.
  20. Ultima_Reality

    Divine Creator(Marvel Comics) Profile

    I don't know you.
  21. Ultima_Reality

    The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

    Yeah, since in transcending all multiplicity whatsoever it also transcends any notion of a succession of states, and also whatever could condition such a succession.
  22. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    I'm fine with that.
  23. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Yeah, that's a fair enough way to assess it. But I don't think it's a good reason to just keep these pages un-applied, still, because either way some degree of confusion is bound to happen during this transition period. Even under what you are suggesting, for example, some verses will be...
  24. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Not really against that, at least in theory. Tier 0 is a fairly homogenous tier, so, shouldn't be difficult.
  25. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    SCP is an exceptional case because it's also in the process of being moved somewhere else and deleted. If it bothers you, it doesn't take much to just write down a big note in the verse page saying the verse is about to get thrown out and that, by extension, its ratings aren't going to be up to...
  26. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    That sounds like a pretty wonky way to go about it. Making a bunch of CRTs for a Tiering System that isn't even formally applied and exists mostly in the form of sandboxes sounds like bad practice overall. Far better to go with the approach I pitched up there. For the matter, I don't mind...
  27. Ultima_Reality

    They'd be High 1-A+ as well, just with a deficient causal power. Either way, you'd be at the...

    They'd be High 1-A+ as well, just with a deficient causal power. Either way, you'd be at the limit point of the process of stacking "-qualities."
  28. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    It be like that.
  29. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Afterwards, it's up to the supporters of each individual verse to revise them, if they believe the verses in question ought to be tiered differently with the new system. Most likely, I'll make a "hub" thread for all the CRTs that'll spawn out of these revisions.
  30. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Noted.
  31. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Noted.
  32. Ultima_Reality

    The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

    More specifically for being described as "above the real" and similar. Though, can you explain Lucifer's relation to dimensionality, also? The comics are a big vague on that mark, and the fact he's very much depicted as existing just fine in regular reality throws me off.
  33. Ultima_Reality

    Tier 0 characters in the new tiering system

    Golovachov-verse coming back would be the funniest event in a while.
  34. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Honestly I'm 98% sure everyone will pick Option 4 anyway, but, for formality's sake, here's the counter: Option 1: Option 2: Option 3: Option 4: Ultima_Reality (thread starter), Antvasima, AKM Sama, DontTalkDT, Agnaa, DarkDragonMedeus, Elizhaa, Firestorm808, Celestial Pegasus...
  35. Ultima_Reality

    The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

    Narnia is not an Arian cosmology and Aslan is very much the equal of the Emperor. That's all there is to say on that. Gotta say I'm pretty skeptical of High 1-A+/Tier 0 Narnia based on that reasoning, ngl. Seems like yapping to me.
  36. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Done so.
  37. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    I suppose that's a good idea to avoid confusion.
  38. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    I don't think that is needed, no, given how sparse such characters are. If, somehow, they start becoming numerous in the future, I think we can go back and have a discussion on whether to make more sub-divisions, but I doubt that will happen, and as is, making such divisions will just result in...
  39. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    They are the same, largely. Low 1-A is "above dimensions," but just not really in the same sense as 1-A, which is in fact above quantitative differences in general.
  40. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    I disagree with the suggestion itself, but either way this isn't the place to discuss it.
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