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UNDERTALE/DELTARUNE [shiny new] DISCUSSION THEAD

Recon1511 said:
No, no, it's true. This verse is just blatantly wanked the reason debunks have failed was because it was Charmander being a ****** on his debunk threads.
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I actually think/agree that the current scale ignores wiki rules its just I wanted to make sure people understand im actually not trying to insult/accuse anyone for it ❤️‍🩹

AyOgUyS said:
He’s here! Prepare the cannons. Hide the upscale blogs!
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I've been watching the thread and all I gotta say is ☠️
 
Rodriiogo said:
I actually think/agree that the current scale ignores wiki rules its just I wanted to make sure people understand im actually not trying to insult/accuse anyone for it ❤️‍🩹
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Nah, I'd say exploiting wiki rules is the right wording.
Ain't really anyone's fault the staff made KE viable for anything over 4 Tons or whatever, or why Stabilization/laser standards are so lax.
 
Yk, it's moments like these that make me get those paranoid conspiracy theorists who think someone's always out there to get them

I know it's not intentional spite, but I always feel a little... y'know
 
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God_of_perversion said:
Should I Already make pre-emptive args before any speed downgrade thread?
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Goodluck finding any actual properties for attacks being real without stretching stuff, theres more of a chance of you finding out who the knight is before that

Eden_Warlock99 said:
Nah, I'd say exploiting wiki rules is the right wording.
Ain't really anyone's fault the staff made KE viable for anything over 4 Tons or whatever, or why Stabilization/laser standards are so lax.
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I agree for the KE stuff but the stabilization and attacks = real thing was quite litetally ignoring rules I cant lie, you can ask for someone for reasons for why X Attack is real and they will hit you with "well why wouldnt it be" as if thats how the wiki works
 
God_of_perversion said:
Should I Already make pre-emptive args before any speed downgrade thread?
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Didn't we do bad at an ARG
Are you at all worried about the possibility of antifeats latter in the unreleased chapters?

I know that can happen with any on going series. But we don't really know all the details regarding the illusionary nature of the dark worlds?

Nevertheless good luck.
 
WizardPowers101 said:
No, you can just go and make a CRT. Content Revision Thread. Just title and tag it "Undertale" something something and then say that the blog got approved. Then afterwards, just wait for an admin to approve it.
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How do the two other calc blogs I made that are linked in there affected?
 
Moon_Crasher said:
How do the two other calc blogs I made that are linked in there affected?
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Uhhh, that I don't know. Psychomaster (the guy who gave you the green light) simply said "it looks good" for your one blog, which is this one. You LIKELY have to MAYBE adjust it to the accepted heights/values but that can be talked about when you make the CRT. Who knows.
 
WizardPowers101 said:
Uhhh, that I don't know. Psychomaster (the guy who gave you the green light) simply said "it looks good" for your one blog, which is this one. You LIKELY have to MAYBE adjust it to the accepted heights/values but that can be talked about when you make the CRT. Who knows.
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To be fair, the Frisk height "recalc" was more of me trying to create a new basis for the 137 cm height currently used since the Amino post is basically just straight up gone
(and it used a lot of rounding too).

It's also only a small difference of 0.041860465 cm too.
 
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Update why does everyone scale to the pumpkin the soul itself doesn't even break lightspeed and it doesn't even have light speed attack for its light. Just FTL also its not Kris dodging its the soul don't lie to me calc links. (Yes I know Kris can dodge attacks from from people who can tag the soul.
Honestly it seems more FTL perception and Relativistic reactions.

Honestly the way it is justified on the profiles sucks.
Kris chapter 1-3
Could fight Darkners such as Rouxls Kaard, Lanino and Elnina, and then contend with far superior ones like Jevil and Tenna. Can dodge Zapper's laser beams. Their X-Slash is fast enough to leave afterimages

Okay
Rouxls
(Fought against the Delta Warriors. Moved his pointer so fast that Lanino and Elnina couldn't keep up with him)

Not helpful also isn't there a whole about how laser pointers can't communicate information faster than light.

Weather Duo
Their recruit stats make them superior to most of the Chapter 4 enemies such as Bibliox, Balthizard or Mizzle, who shouldn't be any slower than Jackenstein due to him being consistently bullied from them. Kept up with the Delta Warriors in combat)


Why would having higher attack and defense mean they're faster just say they keep up with both the chapter 3 and 4 fun gang.

Jevil
(Faster than most other beings in the Dark World. Stated to be superior to Spamton and is implied to have beaten him on several occasions before, meaning Jevil is at least as fast as he is, if not faster. Moves so fast that he leaves afterimages behind)

Nothing here explains flt scaling pre chapter 4 either.

Tenna
(Kept up with the Delta Warriors in combat. Far above his underlings such as Lanino and Elnina)

With all current justifications this doesn't explain anything.

Kris chapter 4
(Faster than before. Managed to dodge multiple attacks from the Titan, including an enormous beam shot directly at them. Moved at similar speeds as light beams)

Linked calc is Relativistic Titan doesn't even have light manipulation why bring that up specifically. Also if they faster why do everyone prior scale.

Titan
(Superior to the likes of GIGA Queen and Jackenstein, with the latter being able to move at these speeds. Can kept up with the LV4 Delta Warriors in combat)

Giga Queen is currently irrelevant for this purpose also why are we assuming it is superior in speed

Luckily Jackenstein carries the delta warriors on his back again and is the ultimate source of the justification.

It really shouldn't be this hard to source this stuff from the profiles these near useless justifications are probably the result of leaving old justifications to rot when changing speed values.
 
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