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Seems to currently be a very loose scaling chain of: Sea Beast Weapons > Atlas > base Luffy.
Not sure I'd put much faith in that.
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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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Not sure I'd put much faith in that.
Stefano4444
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The scaling rely on a scene which its more gag based, where the joke its about Atlas actually be a real tangible object rather than a hologram like other stuff in Egghead.
Beside that when Lilith wanted to fight the Straw Hats, Shaka warn her that she was facing an Emperor crew, that both Zoro and Robin are more than capable to kill her with ease despite having the Sea Beast Weapons.
Yeah the scaling proposed has way too many holes to make sense to me.
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Depends on who you mean by old gen. I can't see many characters fighting evenly with Imu.
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Garp, roger, xebec, Whitebeard, sengoku, etc. Like these characters have been gassed up for hundreds of chapters: king of the pirates, hero of the marines, and. world strongest man only to be powercliffed by Loki? This is like finding out 1+1 doesn't always equal 2.
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How strong is Cyrano? Cyrano was able to speedblitz a serious battle fighting Ryuma and drew the blade to his neck, which surprised even Ryuma in the first duel.
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According to one piece wiki, Boa Marigold used advanced armament haki against gear 2nd Luffy. Probably the weakest advanced one xd
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Or Oda is inconsistent with power scaling and feats ngl
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I don't understand people saying Mihawk vs Shanks is just a sword duel without haki and that Mihawk is just better in swordsmanship skills but Shanks is stronger overall cuz of the haki feats he has shown in the series while Mihawk getting stalled by YC4 Vista xd
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because it tells us so literally everywhere...
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Hello.
Was this an acceptable edit, or should it be reverted?
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kozuki_Oden?diff=9558461&oldid=9257171
Was this an acceptable edit, or should it be reverted?
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kozuki_Oden?diff=9558461&oldid=9257171
Hasty12345
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ACOC is likely since Kaido basically confirmed it.Hello.
Was this an acceptable edit, or should it be reverted?
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kozuki_Oden?diff=9558461&oldid=9257171
Not sure about ACOA though.
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Acceptable. Oden had both.Hello.
Was this an acceptable edit, or should it be reverted?
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kozuki_Oden?diff=9558461&oldid=9257171
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Whatever happened with the nightmare luffy key? That feels like an important form to index
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probably happened when they combined enies lobby keys up to the start of the timeskip
unsure why but might have to do with cluttering or a change in something in the future (like the multiplier not being accurate or something idrk)
unsure why but might have to do with cluttering or a change in something in the future (like the multiplier not being accurate or something idrk)
Lilybitdun
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Just noticed another weird thing
in the tier section of the Enies Lobby Arc - Paramount War Saga key it notes
which is weird since Nightmare Luffy is noted in the Speed, LS, Striking Strength, and Durability sections
in the tier section of the Enies Lobby Arc - Paramount War Saga key it notes
But in the ap section of the same key it doesn't mention Nightmare Luffy at all
which is weird since Nightmare Luffy is noted in the Speed, LS, Striking Strength, and Durability sections
Lilybitdun
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Don't get why nightmare luffy is listed as like an additional form for the end of timeskip key when it can only be achieved with outside help, def should be it's own key
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Sanji vs Garou: Enemies to Lovers
Garou, Half monster key vs Sanji, early wano 2 arc The battle takes place on the Moon, which has been given a breathable atmosphere. The ground is covered with 100 billion corpses, and an eternal fire burns across the battlefield. Kazuma is trapped upside down inside a transparent Tier 1-A...
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The Pirate Hunter challenges the Purple Tear to a duel (Roronoa Zoro{One Piece} vs Iori{Project Moon})
Roronoa Zoro(Skypiea Arc) Iori the Purple Tear Distance: 10 meters Speed Equalized SBA for the rest
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Peak
looks better than I expected, hopefully the story and direction is as good as well 
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When is new large CRT coming? Many profiles are still outdated like Burgess, Weevil, Beckman, Ushimaru etc.
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We're near the end of one currently focused on revising some pre-timeskip characters. It'll be easier to revise the later characters once early characters are more settled.
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Ooh that looks amazing
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Are revolutionary commanders Low 5-B?
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Here's interesting thought. It would be nice if Ace has Spade Pirates key. He fought handcuffed base Yamato to a stalemate. He fought Jinbe for 5 days. He fought and beat Hanafuda, a former warlord (which occurred four years before the current storyline) who clashed with 50+ years old Kaido. He beat vice admiral Draw with armament haki.
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50+ years old base Kaido is 5-C at most and Hanafuda clashed with him. Ace beat a 5-C Hanafuda. We might upgrade base Yamato and rest of Wano characters who scaled to her base to 5-C. Hmm, 5-C Guernika will be accurate with what the Gorosei thought of him as one of the best agents who shouldn't be too far weaker than base Kaku.
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Personally i don't believe they should be, at least not based on the current feats when fighting an admiral who couldn't use its full strength due of be in Mary Geoise.
Honestly full Low 5-B should be reserved to Emperors, Admirals/Fleet Admirals, Advanced Conqueror Haki Users and anyone who can actually put a fight against Top Tiers while the latters are either not holding back or weakened/depowered (such as Big Mom with hunger pain or amnesia), at least as a 'possibly', and of course anyone who are beyond even them.
The only expections would be people like the Lunarians which Durability with Flame On should scale on that level due of their biology (but not necessarely their AP), or people with specific abilities which allow to either properly attack or defend against Top Tiers (like Bartolomeo's barrier or maybe possibly Nami with Zeus)
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Stefano4444
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In general this would be the list of people who i believe should be 'Low 5-B'.
After the last spoilers from 1188, we probably would need at 'At least Low 5-B' which should include:
- Gol D. Roger (God Valley - Prime)
- Monkey D. Garp (God Valley - Prime - Old)
- Edward Newgate (Prime - Old)
- Dracule Mihawk
- Rocks D. Xebec (Base - Domi Reversi)
- Harald (Base - God's Knight)
- Loki (Base)
- Ratatoskr
- Shanks (Current)
- Charlotte Linlin (Current Base | Life Exchanged)
- Kaidou (Current Base | Zoan Forms | Shuron Hakke)
- Monkey D. Luffy (Post ACoC Base | Gear 2nd | Gear 3th | Gear 4th | Gear 5th)
- Marshall D. Teach (Pre Timeskip Gura Gura no Mi [AP & Dura Only] - Post Timeskip)
- Sakazuki (Pre Timeskip - Post Timeskip)
- Kuzan (Pre Timeskip - Post Timeskip)
- Borsalino
- Aramaki
- Fujitora
- Kong (Old - Prime)
- Sengoku (Old - Prime)
- Shiki (Prime)
- Kouzuki Oden (Pre ACoC - Post ACoC)
- Silvers Rayleigh (Old - Prime)
- Scopper Gaban (Old - Prime)
- Monkey D. Dragon
- Figarland Shamrock
- Ryuma (Prime)
- Roronoa Zoro (Onigashima Raid Unleashed Enma | Asura - Post ACoC King of Hell | Asura)
- Manmayer Gunko (Imunko)
- Yamato (Zoan Forms)
- Figarland Garling (Post Egghead)
- Topman Warcury (Devil Form)
- Ethanbaron V. Nusjuro (Devil Form)
- Jaygarcia Saturn (Devil Form)
- Marcus Mars (Devil Form)
- Shepherd Ju Peter (Devil Form)
- Rob Lucci (Post Timeskip Awakening Form)
- Trafalgar D. Water Law (Onigashima Raid Base | Awakening [AP & Dura Only])
- Eustass Kid (Onigashima Raid Base | Awakening [AP Only])
- Bartolomeo (Bari Bari no Mi [Dura Only])
- King (Base Flame On [Dura Only] | Zoan Forms Flame On [Dura Only])
- S-Snake (Egghead Flame On [Dura Only])
- S-Hawk (Egghead Flame On [Dura Only])
- S-Bear (Egghead Flame On [Dura Only])
- S-Shark (Egghead Flame On [Dura Only])
- Kyo
- Captain John
- Ganzui
- Ochoku
- Chinjao (Prime)
- Gecko Moria (Prime)
- Edward Weevil
- Bartholomew Kuma
- Shanks (Beginning of Series)
- Charlotte Linlin (God Valley - Current Hunger Pain/Amnesia)
- Kaidou (God Valley)
- Edward Newgate (God Valley)
- Shiki (God Valley)
- Silvers Rayleigh (God Valley)
- Scopper Gaban (God Valley)
- Sengoku (God Valley)
- Marshall D. Teach (Pre Timeskip Base)
- Jewelry Bonney (Post Timeskip Gear 5th)
- Figarland Garling (Pre Egghead)
- Boa Hancock
- Gloriosa (Prime)
- Shakky
- Streusen (Prime)
- Don Marlon
- Stussy (Prime)
- Gill Bastar
- Kouzuki Momonosuke (Adult Zoan Forms)
- Benn Beckman
- Marco (Zoan Forms)
- Brogy (Base - Domi Reversi)
- Dorry (Base - Domi Reversi)
- Rob Lucci (Post Timeskip Base | Zoan Form)
- Monkey D. Luffy (Post Udon Gear 4th)
- Yamato (Base)
- Gion
- Tokikake
- Jozu (Kira Kira no Mi [Dura Only])
After the last spoilers from 1188, we probably would need at 'At least Low 5-B' which should include:
- Joy Boy
- Nerona Imu (Devil Form)
- Loki (Zoan Forms)
- Zaza
- Forest God
- Emet
- Warrior God
- Topman Warcury (Devil Form [Dura Only])
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Garp is mean, he's just got honor and a sense of humor to go with it.I think that Garp looks too mean in that drawing.
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Why Zunisha?
