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The Amazing Digital Circus General Discussion Thread [Spoilers]

LittleGuy99 said:
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The worlds aren't really universe-sized given the fact that we blatantly see the skyboxes when Caine gets back to the Grounds as well as the ending when the camera is zooming out of the Grounds. Though, I do agree that the circus members should scale to Caine, but just in AP/Durability and not lifting strength or speed.
 
Psychomaster35 said:
The worlds aren't really universe-sized given the fact that we blatantly see the skyboxes when Caine gets back to the Grounds as well as the ending when the camera is zooming out of the Grounds
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Yeah, I don't think any of the worlds Caine created before were the size of a universe, I was talking more about the culmination of them all and the fact that they expand more and more in the ending (Because Caine sustains everything)
 
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Just finished rewatching it and while I did notice more flaws than on my first watch, I still stand by what I said before.
Also, I'm so glad my native language has such good VAs, the dub was so raw, especially Jax.
 
Gonna rewatch it today probably. I just kinda doubt it'll hit me in a different way. Also, prepare for 20 billion years of "Jax is trans"/"Jax is not trans" fighting on every platform because Goose couldn't pick one thing. Just another example of the ending being way too uncertain about everything and indecisive about what exactly it wants to do.
 
Arceus0x said:
Gonna rewatch it today probably. I just kinda doubt it'll hit me in a different way. Also, prepare for 20 billion years of "Jax is trans"/"Jax is not trans" fighting on every platform because Goose couldn't pick one thing. Just another example of the ending being way too uncertain about everything and indecisive about what exactly it wants to do.
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Seems pretty clear to me, "This character was shamed for their 'fragile' masculinity and being less of a man than their father for liking what they like, and even in their deepest fears, their problems are presented much more like sexually oriented than gender oriented, so the conclusion is that, the character IS less of a man, and actually a woman", that sounds completely contrary to what the character arc implies. And it's not like that headcanon is bad, I have no problems with it, but people WILL demand us to change the profiles to accommodate it
 
GodlyCharmander said:
Seems pretty clear to me, "This character was shamed for their 'fragile' masculinity and being less of a man than their father for liking what they like, and even in their deepest fears, their problems are presented much more like sexually oriented than gender oriented, so the conclusion is that, the character IS less of a man, and actually a woman", that sounds completely contrary to what the character arc implies. And it's not like that headcanon is bad, I have no problems with it, but people WILL demand us to change the profiles to accommodate it
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When characters outright got confirmed to be trans people were still at each other's throats. In this case it's vague enough that they'll be at each other's... idk what comes after throats
 
Also, to FURTHER prove that Caine only survived because he is stored in an HDD, and NOT because he has some super powered ee resistance. The reason Cain survived. If you consider they exist on a hdd. Things you delete are never deleted until they are overwritten with new data, they are simply moved to unallocated space.

That's actually really clever and the likely explanation for why he ended up in the void.

We're not adding that.
 
Arceus0x said:
I don't like confirmations from voice actors rather than the author but like, at this point I don't even care who confirms it, it's ridiculous that we have to get confirmation from outside the actual media.
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i feel like the whole ribbit stuff and being referred to as 'she' during the flashback segment was enough to kinda get the point across, but that's just me. And that stuff is just in the final episode.
 
Whatever is confirmed doesn't matter either way since regardless they did my fella Jax dirty, didn't deserve abstraction limbo. I will say it no matter how many times I have to but I hate uncertainty and an uncertain death like this just feels lame.
 
The message is how you can't just undo tragedies and how you have to still live with those tragedies. Undoing an abstraction would be cowardly.
 
GodlyCharmander said:
The message is how you can't just undo tragedies and how you have to still live with those tragedies. Undoing an abstraction would be cowardly.
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Then they should commit to it. I came in with an expectation that Jax either will die or will live. I was honestly expecting it to be full on death. Instead we got... whatever abstraction is, not quite death, not quite life, some hellish limbo.
 
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I really liked the ending; my GOAT Caine finally overcame the accusations of becoming pure evil.

As for the whole Jax thing, I liked that they didn't backtrack and invent a way to undo the abstractions at the last minute. I think that would have been cowardly. All Jax needed to do was open up to the people who were completely willing to accept and welcome her, but she couldn't stop sabotaging herself until the end. Besides, "isn't she lovely?" and Ribbit putting a bow on Jax's head—like, the series is just demanding a little bit of your reading comprehension, man.
 
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Arceus0x said:
Then they should commit to it. I came in with an expectation that Jax either will die or will live. I was honestly expecting it to be full on death. Instead we got... whatever abstraction is, not quite death, not quite life, some hellish limbo.
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Abstraction has always been the only thing these digital copies could suffer that's even remotely close to death. Did you expect them to go to the hard drive and delete Jax's mind files? What. Yeah, that's the tragedy. He is a digital copy, so he's not dead per say because he's just 1s and 0s, that's the bittersweetness of it all.

If you expected anything other than abstraction, it's a bit weird.
 
If everything is digital/file-based, why doesn't Cain simply fix the abstracted ones like he fixes all the other bugs?

Why doesn't he keep backup copies of the characters' minds in case one of them abstracts?

Considering there are no metaphysical aspects like soul, mind, etc., and everything is digital, what exactly is the impediment that makes the abstractions "irreversible"?
 
1. Yes Jax is basically a outright Togata situation (Character who is trans, but didn't transitioned physically or socially...and had a tragic death).
2. Well then, we should just make everything data manipulation since that it is what it is (joking)
 
Phsccarvalho said:
If everything is digital/file-based, why doesn't Cain simply fix the abstracted ones like he fixes all the other bugs?
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I think it's like when a file is completely corrupted and you can no longer restore it; Caine can only restore files up to a certain point.
Phsccarvalho said:
Why doesn't he keep backup copies of the characters' minds in case one of them abstracts?
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Then they would just be other copies and not themselves.
 
MrSpockVulcan said:
Then they would just be other copies and not themselves.
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I even wrote a pretty long text, but I realized I just don't have the sensitivity for it.

Like, I only see it as if I created a Word file called "a" with text written inside to use later, and then someone told me I couldn't make a copy of that file because "it's not the same file so I can't use it."
 
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Minor TADC Episode 9 CRT

I swear i was holding this until 19th June, because i watched the final episode at the theaters, to avoid people from spoilers. So here is my minor CRT about TADC (sorry if it is rough): Powers and Abilities Agree: Neutral: Disagree:
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Phsccarvalho said:
I even wrote a pretty long text, but I realized I just don't have the sensitivity for it.

Like, I only see it as if I created a Word file called "a" with text written inside to use later, and then someone told me I couldn't make a copy of that file because "it's not the same file so I can't use it."
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The problem is that they aren't just files, they're people. Caine simply creating a clone of the abstracted people to replace them would only make things worse.
 
I think this is a hot take, but for me, Caine is the best character in the series.

He and Jax are essentially the same character in the sense that both are people who, because of their traumas and insecurities, end up pushing away and hurting everyone around them, making life a living hell for the people in the circus. But the difference is that Caine was able to grow as a person, overcome his insecurities, and correct his mistakes. While Jax's tragedy is a rich story, the fact that she never learns anything and only makes the same mistakes from beginning to end makes her a much less complete character than him, in my opinion.
 
MrSpockVulcan said:
The problem is that they aren't just files, they're people. Caine simply creating a clone of the abstracted people to replace them would only make things worse.
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They are not people. People are real-life versions of them. They are just brain scans of living beings, but they themselves are not living beings.
 
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