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So it's been a while. It's time to revise Clash of Clans.
1. SPEED NERF AND RESCALING
Sadly, it is time for Massively Hypersonic+ to go.
Lightning dodging is not consistent in the verse and seems to be very heavily consistent with only supersonic speed.
In this video we see that nobody can react to lightning bolts at all.
In the game, the attacks seem instant as well
No delay, no visible flight speed.
Clash a rama's MHS feat is most likely an outlier.
What do we replace it with?
Supersonic+ speed.
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Lower speed characters will scale or downscale from Barbarian's 1117 m/s and the faster ones will scale up from Goblin's 1480 m/s speed.
Is this consistent? Seems so. It is far from the first supersonic feat and in the game characters seem to be able to attack at a relatively comparable speed to the cannonballs.
Would've added another one here but it still ain't accepted.
So everyone scales to some degree of Supersonic+.
2. 9-A RESCALING
So the calc above also has an accepted 9-A+ value which scales directly to barbarians. Anyone currently 9-A will get upgraded to 9-A+ at 0.15 tons.
3. RE-WORK OF SCALING - ALL TROOPS SHOULD BE TREATED AS SPECIES PROFILES
The idea is simple.
Troops are basically the same with minor variations like hair color and muscle mass being present. There's a catch however. Power seems to vary across some of the troops, with some being tougher than the rest. Here's two examples.
1. Barbarian seems to overpower 2 8-B troops with a jump
2. Barbarian manages to hold off a gobling gang that made a Barbarian King scared
3. The hog riders from the Books of Clash seem to have some special hog riders which are significantly stronger
4. Boxer giants exist
"Heavy-handed and built like an ox, these Giants have been practicing their haymaker punch!"
So that's the only thing that makes them different from normal Giants, training, but that already makes them stronger as now they deal extra damage on hit.
What did we learn? There are some members of the specific troop race that end up being significantly more skilled and strong than the rest. Instead of explaining away feats of strength as outliers, we should just give them the race/species profile treatment and change their tiers.
An example would be the changing of the tier of the Barbarian from 9-A, possibly 8-B, to "9-A to 8-B". An explanation for the barbarians actually scaling to 9-A and not just it being another example of a stronger barbarian, I think the fact that Barbarians tank cannon shots constantly makes it very consistent comparable to showings like barbarians hurting Pekkas.
What other changes will this lead to?
Well, that means instead of having 10 separate profiles for all the different goblins and pekkas, at least some should share a profile.
An example would be having a goblin profile contain not only our normal goblins but also spear goblins and dart goblins. Pekka should contain both variations of the Power Pekkas and probably the M.O.M.M.A. since it is almost the exact same as a normal pekka. Obviously separate branches of the species should be separate, like the Giant Goblin or the mini Pekka.
4. ACKNOWLEDGING DAMAGE
It seems that damage is actually canon
And yes, this is, in fact, accurate to a T
clashofclans.fandom.com
Look at the damage per attack at lvl 7, it is in fact accurate.
What does this mean? All it means is that it is generally acknowledged and we should use damage output to scale characters above or below one another. So, as an example, a PEKKA scales above Giants, MOMMA scales way above PEKKA. It would not lead to any multipliers since at that point it'd be too much but it should be used as an actual basis for scaling since it is even acknowledged in-verse.
5. TAKING DOWN SOME CALCS
There's many calcs that are on the CoC page rn and I have to say, MANY of them suck.
I think that any calc that uses in-game models for size scaling should be removed. Why? Simply put, we are viewing the characters from above and at an angle, meaning that any estimate we try and make actually significantly lowballs their height and high balls the calcs.
Additionally, some calcs like the eagle artillery explosion seem to, for some reason, calculate the flash of light's radius, rather than the actual fireball of the explosion.
Thus I wish to remove these following calcs:
This does cause the issue that we don't have any notable LS calc to scale everyone to but that will require more calcs and another CRT.
I also believe that this calc should be back to High 8-C since idk why someone put it back to 8-B, the only accepted end is the High 8-C one, we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves
6. ADDING CALCS
I've made these two calcs, one of which is 9-A and the other is almost 8-B, sitting at High 8-C+
I think these two should make a fine addition. I should also add this to make later calcs easier
THAT'S ALL FOR NOW. NEXT UP - SUPER FORMS, EVOLUTIONS AND LIFTING STRENGTH
1. SPEED NERF AND RESCALING
Sadly, it is time for Massively Hypersonic+ to go.
Lightning dodging is not consistent in the verse and seems to be very heavily consistent with only supersonic speed.
In this video we see that nobody can react to lightning bolts at all.
In the game, the attacks seem instant as well
No delay, no visible flight speed.
Clash a rama's MHS feat is most likely an outlier.
What do we replace it with?
Supersonic+ speed.
Barbarian chills on a cannonball and then a Goblin robs him
vsbattles.fandom.com
Is this consistent? Seems so. It is far from the first supersonic feat and in the game characters seem to be able to attack at a relatively comparable speed to the cannonballs.
Would've added another one here but it still ain't accepted.
So everyone scales to some degree of Supersonic+.
2. 9-A RESCALING
So the calc above also has an accepted 9-A+ value which scales directly to barbarians. Anyone currently 9-A will get upgraded to 9-A+ at 0.15 tons.
3. RE-WORK OF SCALING - ALL TROOPS SHOULD BE TREATED AS SPECIES PROFILES
The idea is simple.
Troops are basically the same with minor variations like hair color and muscle mass being present. There's a catch however. Power seems to vary across some of the troops, with some being tougher than the rest. Here's two examples.
1. Barbarian seems to overpower 2 8-B troops with a jump
2. Barbarian manages to hold off a gobling gang that made a Barbarian King scared
3. The hog riders from the Books of Clash seem to have some special hog riders which are significantly stronger
4. Boxer giants exist
"Heavy-handed and built like an ox, these Giants have been practicing their haymaker punch!"
So that's the only thing that makes them different from normal Giants, training, but that already makes them stronger as now they deal extra damage on hit.
What did we learn? There are some members of the specific troop race that end up being significantly more skilled and strong than the rest. Instead of explaining away feats of strength as outliers, we should just give them the race/species profile treatment and change their tiers.
An example would be the changing of the tier of the Barbarian from 9-A, possibly 8-B, to "9-A to 8-B". An explanation for the barbarians actually scaling to 9-A and not just it being another example of a stronger barbarian, I think the fact that Barbarians tank cannon shots constantly makes it very consistent comparable to showings like barbarians hurting Pekkas.
What other changes will this lead to?
Well, that means instead of having 10 separate profiles for all the different goblins and pekkas, at least some should share a profile.
An example would be having a goblin profile contain not only our normal goblins but also spear goblins and dart goblins. Pekka should contain both variations of the Power Pekkas and probably the M.O.M.M.A. since it is almost the exact same as a normal pekka. Obviously separate branches of the species should be separate, like the Giant Goblin or the mini Pekka.
4. ACKNOWLEDGING DAMAGE
It seems that damage is actually canon
And yes, this is, in fact, accurate to a T
Wizard
For his Super counterparts, see Super Wizard/Home Village and Super Wizard/Clan Capital. For the defensive building, see Wizard Tower. For his Builder Base counterpart, see Electrofire Wizard. "The Wizard is a terrifying presence on the battlefield. Pair him up with some of his fellows and cast...
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What does this mean? All it means is that it is generally acknowledged and we should use damage output to scale characters above or below one another. So, as an example, a PEKKA scales above Giants, MOMMA scales way above PEKKA. It would not lead to any multipliers since at that point it'd be too much but it should be used as an actual basis for scaling since it is even acknowledged in-verse.
5. TAKING DOWN SOME CALCS
There's many calcs that are on the CoC page rn and I have to say, MANY of them suck.
I think that any calc that uses in-game models for size scaling should be removed. Why? Simply put, we are viewing the characters from above and at an angle, meaning that any estimate we try and make actually significantly lowballs their height and high balls the calcs.
Additionally, some calcs like the eagle artillery explosion seem to, for some reason, calculate the flash of light's radius, rather than the actual fireball of the explosion.
Thus I wish to remove these following calcs:
- (Clan Capital) Rocket Artillery Blast: 0.023 Tonnes Of TNT (Small Building level)
- Eagle Artillery Blast: 0.38 Tonnes Of TNT (Building level)
- Town Hall 14 Poison Blast: 0.65 Tonnes Of TNT (Building level)
- Town Hall 13 Ice Bomb: 3.79 Tonnes Of TNT (Large Building level)
This does cause the issue that we don't have any notable LS calc to scale everyone to but that will require more calcs and another CRT.
I also believe that this calc should be back to High 8-C since idk why someone put it back to 8-B, the only accepted end is the High 8-C one, we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves
6. ADDING CALCS
I've made these two calcs, one of which is 9-A and the other is almost 8-B, sitting at High 8-C+
I think these two should make a fine addition. I should also add this to make later calcs easier
THAT'S ALL FOR NOW. NEXT UP - SUPER FORMS, EVOLUTIONS AND LIFTING STRENGTH
