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Sonic vs Goku

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Wait what about Super Sonic at his 2-C key? He has invulnerability which allows him to tank Xeno Goku basic attacks I think
No, Dimensionally Superior/5D attacks bypass 4D invulnerability

DBS Manga Goku will scale to baseline 2-C like Sonic's secret rings key, so just make that fight when i find time to apply that revision
 
No, Dimensionally Superior/5D attacks bypass 4D invulnerability

DBS Manga Goku will scale to baseline 2-C like Sonic's secret rings key, so just make that fight when i find time to apply that revision
Could you show me the part that says higher dimensional attack potency can bypass invulnerability?
 
Wait what about Super Sonic at his 2-C key? He has invulnerability which allows him to tank Xeno Goku basic attacks I think
By site rules, dimensional jumps (Low 2-C vs Low 1-C) allows a Low 1-C character to punch through lower one's invulnerability because their strength literally transends everything a lower fighter have, unless it was shown to take attacks from dimensionally stronger attacks
 
By site rules, dimensional jumps (Low 2-C vs Low 1-C) allows a Low 1-C character to punch through lower one's invulnerability because their strength literally transends everything a lower fighter have, unless it was shown to take attacks from dimensionally stronger attacks
Also just in general if your vastly stronger then the strongest thing the invulnerability has hit sense NLF
 
I honestly disagree with the whole thing of all 2-C sonic scales to 12 universes

Some keys should probably be 6 universes in my opinion
 
I honestly disagree with the whole thing of all 2-C sonic scales to 12 universes

Some keys should probably be 6 universes in my opinion
Someone just brought that up
Modern Era Classic Sonic defeated the Egg Dragoon, who scales to 12 universes.

Although recent downgrades has the Modern Sonic key (Sonic and the Secret Rings - Sonic Free Riders) at 2 universes rather than 12.

And i heard DBS Manga might be getting downgraded into 2 universes. You might be able cook something with that
None scale to 6 though as far as I'm aware.
 
I honestly disagree with the whole thing of all 2-C sonic scales to 12 universes

Some keys should probably be 6 universes in my opinion
Not all keys are 12 universes anymore, Egg Cerberus and Egg Wyvern's "most monstrous, terrible, terrifying" statements aren't being used anymore due to being too vague in a powerscaling sense.

His first key now has him at High 3-A, and his second key now has him at 2-C, but 2 universes rather than 12 (except for the Werehog transformation).
 
Not all keys are 12 universes anymore, Egg Cerberus and Egg Wyvern's "most monstrous, terrible, terrifying" statements aren't being used anymore due to being too vague in a powerscaling sense.

His first key now has him at High 3-A, and his second key now has him at 2-C, but 2 universes rather than 12 (except for the Werehog transformation).
Still believe some keys shouldn't be 12 universes still bc it was both the sol emeralds and chaos emeralds together that did that 12 universe feat, so like the two GoD feat you'd need to split that in half to six universes
 
Still believe some keys shouldn't be 12 universes still bc it was both the sol emeralds and chaos emeralds together that did that 12 universe feat, so like the two GoD feat you'd need to split that in half to six universes
Contributing to half of a feat that affected 12 universes is just downscaling to half of 12 universes. There's several infinities in there

The GoDs scaled to half of baseline 2-C because of Beerus and Champa's feat, before the World of Void feat, and subsequently the macrocosm upgrade
 
another johner2133451 thread that starts with a massive stomp and then derails. Truly the GOAT.
 
Contributing to half of a feat that affected 12 universes is just downscaling to half of 12 universes. There's several infinities in there

The GoDs scaled to half of baseline 2-C because of Beerus and Champa's feat, before the World of Void feat, and subsequently the macrocosm upgrade
Still we still use the Beerus Champa thing

It's why they're 6 universes
 
Still believe some keys shouldn't be 12 universes still bc it was both the sol emeralds and chaos emeralds together that did that 12 universe feat, so like the two GoD feat you'd need to split that in half to six universes
No, it was only the Sol Emeralds
 
Also even if Sonic used scaled to two universes , his adaptation is absurd. If Goku doesn't realize that Sonic's a big enough threat in time he's kind of screwed no matter what he tries.
 
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