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(0-7-0) Ruby Rose vs Solid Snake (Grace)

Snake has an immediate AP and Durability advantage (Scales above 23.55 tons, whereas Ruby scales above 7.902 tons) with more versatility due to his equipment, a higher LS (which is good for Snake because he can chokehold with CQC) as well as a huge skill gap, Metal Gear characters are roided on skill feats and shit

Ruby does have better defensive abilities though, with her Aura being a dura-increase as well as her elemental intangibility which Snake has no physical method of bypassing

I'm not exactly sure how Ruby fights per se, but based on what is written on her profile, she either mainly fights at a close range with her Scythe, or stays at a distance with her sniper rifle(?), both manners of which Snake has dealt with in droves, and also scales to others (i.e. Big Boss) who have done the exact same thing as him. The skill gap alone is gonna be troublesome for Ruby, but Snake also has stuff like his emotional Smoke Grenades that'll affect Ruby in different ways (putting her in a laughing fit, or making her feel extremely depressed, or putting her in a state of immense fear) if she ever gets caught by them.

Ruby herself also doesn't have much in the way of greatly harming Snake, though I can see her Gravity Dust attacks (however they work) being able to harm him somewhat.

All in all, though, I think Snake takes this mid-diff. Better stats, more versatility, and a massive skill advantage will let him take this more times than not.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Post Beacon/Haven Ruby scales to 21.11 Tons of TNT.
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Ah, okay, thank you for correcting me. So their AP gap (at least, without Snake's weapons) is much closer than I initially evaluated. That definitely makes it more possible for Ruby to harm Snake.

Though, given that Snake's weapons would scale him to 156 Tons - thus nearly one-shotting Ruby - and he has dozens of them at his disposal, I don't expect the initial arguments I gave to change all too much, so my vote's still for Snake.
 
thetechmaster36 said:
Even when he doesn't want to use CQC, his body reacts accordingly and he still uses it as a result. Take a look at this scene in MGS4, we can see him pretty clearly using CQC, and even his first move against the Resistance member is to grab him and put him in a chokehold.
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That all happened during MGS4, this is MGS2 Solid Snake, I dont think Old Snake would say he restrained CQC if he instinctively used it prior to MGS4
 
I mean, as far as I'm concerned, even without using CQC (which I feel like he would at some point just based on what he said in MGS4), Snake still has an upper hand because of his skills with weapons and whatnot. CQC just adds a layer on top of his already impressive stuff.
 
Yes, you are right. CQC is said to have a near infinite ammount of applications. Solid Snake still has a massive upper hand in hand to hand combat skill even without using it.
 
McFriesGuy075 said:
I dont actually know to be honest, but im just assuming he does what's in character for him in this specific era.

Either way the mega mgs revision stuff is going to give Snake separate keys for almost all eras
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Would be cool to see how that stuff turns out, been playing twin snakes on gamecube recently
 
Though this match might not last long, he'll be downgraded to High 8-C (unless the few of calculated 8-B feats become enough to not be an outlier) since elemental feats are unreliable
 
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