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Goatku seems to take this.
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Qlipoth just sent a scan that shows issei can boost about 45 times in a very short amount of time... Yeah, Goku CAN win, but that requires him to immediately kill Issei before he can utter Boost once which will be much harder with speed equalGoatku seems to take this.
But not impossible considering the utterly ridiculous skill advantage Goku has.Qlipoth just sent a scan that shows issei can boost about 45 times in a very short amount of time... Yeah, Goku CAN win, but that requires him to immediately kill Issei before he can utter Boost once which will be much harder with speed equal
True, but eventually it will literally become Senator Armstrong "standin here I realize" because Issei will just be untouchable.But not impossible considering the utterly ridiculous skill advantage Goku has.
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Did you just glaze over the past 2 pages where Qlipoth provided consistent scans of it being double? You’re genuinely just being spiteful at this pointVoting goku.
Issei's "boost" has zero feats of being an actual multiplier.literally every fight has issei boost more than 20 times only for the opponent to still keep up.whether it's against Vali,against sairorg,against loki, against cao cao,or against anyone else,for that matter
During his first fight,he fights Vali(who is his relative equal in base) after boosting 47 times only to be slightly faster him in speed and still couldn't one shot him.
Not to mention the AxA time limit and the sheer stress it puts on issei would mean Goku can just out stamina it.
Also,I highly doubt Goku would also not notice that his own power was dropping and his opponent is rising and simply realise that extending the fight would lead to his loss and just one shot him.
I did,also,I read the entire series so I know how many times the characters have spoken about it.however as the multipliers page points out.Did you just glaze over the past 2 pages where Qlipoth provided consistent scans of it being double? You’re genuinely just being spiteful at this point.
It's pretty clear that a Vali who is relatively equal to issei still survived and kept up with issei after 47 boosts which is completely impossible if issei really did have 2x stats.However, a good statement alone is not enough to get a high multiplier accepted. The amount of extra evidence one has to provide to get larger multipliers accepted is proportional to the size of the multiplier. For lower multipliers, like things much less than times 100, evidence can take the form of a clear increase in combat strength against priorly equal or superior opponents.
He does this every fight not just one,every fight.thats not how plot induced stupidity works.Also, Issei boosting in canon and not being able to match others can easily be chalked up to either plot induced stupidity cause
Issei and Vali were tier 7 when this happened and if those 47 boosts really did boost him,issei would be low 5-b at that point.you think a tier 7 can take a hit from low 5-b?This is consistent with Tier 6 and 5 where the gaps between tiers are quite large
So you acknowledge that issei has a peak beyond which he can't double his power, especially so for his AxA,form which is extremely exhausting and can be held for a short time.That's quite clearly stated in one of my posted text in as early as Vol 3 so it makes sense that Issei can't just one shot Vali who, while he can't increase his power past his peak,
I feel like thats a big assumption,the fact that a guy who is 2^47 times stronger than cant one shot or completely speedblitz you is a little too unbelievable.All the other cases after that, fairly reasonable to assume the author doesn't know how god awful boosting can be if they're able to 2x your power/stats and all that or that they also found ways to not get OHKO'd
Your win-con for issei is that he can boost 40 times which would increase his strength by 1.1x10^12 time allowing him to one shot Goku.The quote you send literally denotes that it’s for big multipliers, a x2 multiplier doesn’t exactly seem big.
If you have such an issue then make a CRT. Boost is currently accepted as double his power with past CRTs and scans to support it but saying that “I’m voting Goku because I don’t believe this is how it works” despite the ability being approved to work that way is rather interesting.Your win-con for issei is that he can boost 40 times which would increase his strength by 1.1x10^12 time allowing him to one shot Goku.
I belive that if someone is capable of such a feat,that should only be accepted with lots of evidence and little anti-feats.
Can you give me the thread for it being accepted?If you have such an issue then make a CRT. Boost is currently accepted as double his power with past CRTs and scans to support it
Just to note what they posted doesn't even cover the majority of Issei's fights. That's only a tiny fraction of "evidence". Though, him boosting like that isn't really evidence in of itself. He'd need actual showings along with those statements, with little or no inconsistences at all.Did you just glaze over the past 2 pages where Qlipoth provided consistent scans of it being double? You’re genuinely just being spiteful at this point
Um, if this was true that means we'd reject the multiplier for being inconsistent. We don't just call it PIS and keep it. Trying to guess Author Intent is a fools errand. We go by what happens in universe, we don't try to guess what the author intents with something. Since at that point, all of our ratings would be in question.Also, Issei boosting in canon and not being able to match others can easily be chalked up to either plot induced stupidity cause I’m sure the author doesn’t actually think “If Issei Boosts 47 times he will be within oneshot range for Vali!” Or other characters at the time being stronger meaning Issei can now match them. This is consistent with Tier 6 and 5 where the gaps between tiers are quite large
Just to note what they posted doesn't even cover the majority of Issei's fights. That's only a tiny fraction of "evidence". Though, him boosting like that isn't really evidence in of itself. He'd need actual showings along with those statements, with little or no inconsistences at all.
Um, if this was true that means we'd reject the multiplier for being inconsistent. We don't just call it PIS and keep it. Trying to guess Author Intent is a fools errand. We go by what happens in universe, we don't try to guess what the author intents with something. Since at that point, all of our ratings would be in question.
Multipliers of such a high value need extra evidence. "If multiple multipliers are to be stacked, that are used upon each other, the evidence for the end result is equal to the total multiplier applied to the best feat. That means that if, for example, a character has a times 10 multiplier and later on gets another times 50 multiplier, than the evidence necessary to use both multipliers to get a statistic, is like that of a times 500 multiplier, as the best feat would be increased by a factor of 500 in that case."
I'd suggest not using Issei or Vali for versus threads until his profile is fixed. It's not just a 2x multiplier, what's being suggested is a 1.0995116e+12x multiplier (45 boost). Which would require vastly more evidence to prove it's consistent. Him boosting 45 times isn't proof, we need to see consistent showing across the entire Light Novel.
Assuming Issei is only baseline 5-B, 45 continuous doubling of his power places him at Large Star level. As I said, I'm unaware of if Issei's boost are consistent or not. But I have a strange feeling Issei doesn't have any Large Star level or Tier 4 feats in general that support this.
I don't feel like we should be ignoring site rules just because.
Another man's trash is another man's treasureGoku should win because he’s fighting a garbage character tbh
GODDAMN OWO~Goku should win because he’s fighting a garbage character tbh