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This would be a buff for Final Wars Godzilla funnily enough since even Keizer Godzilla is currently a fraction of this calc despite being in the same tier.
 
You know that feeling when something feels like an outlier but there's so little feats that it's hard to call it an outlier?
 
Sorry, I failed my A-Levels so I'm undeserving of being a CGM Temperature calcs aren't my strong suit, maybe ask @Migue79
 
Uh, this calculation seems really... off. Can we see the source that says Godzilla's breath is 100,000,000 C? Because that seems like a ridiculously high temprature to assume without concrete evidence.
 
FuriousFieryFist said:
Uh, this calculation seems really... off. Can we see the source that says Godzilla's breath is 100,000,000 C? Because that seems like a ridiculously high temprature to assume without concrete evidence.
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Dude, this was accepted before as it comes from official sources, and I added the scan of the guidebook from where this statement comes from in the calculation.
 
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Oiguana2701 said:
So... It isn't an outlier?
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It could be. I never ended up fighting back against it but I'm not sure. The 100 mil thing has issues with consistency, mainly the fact that it took a bit of time to melt metal pylons and it couldn't destroy a ship fully when something of that temperature should vaporize most of it, considering we're assuming the beam is fully 100 mil. Otherwise there's nothing else opposing it.
 
Apex_Predator_GX said:
Dude, this was accepted before,
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Then it should be easy to state why again for someone who evidently wasn't there

Though even with it being verifiable I just think taking this 100% literally to it's logical extent isn't really reflected in the actual movie, given they melt rather than outright vaporize the steel they come into contact with (and it doesn't take rocket science to compare some numbers and realize 100,000,000 degrees is far over the boiling point for a lot of substances)
 
Arceus0x said:
It could be. I never ended up fighting back against it but I'm not sure. The 100 mil thing has issues with consistency, mainly the fact that it took a bit of time to melt metal pylons and it couldn't destroy a ship fully when something of that temperature should vaporize most of it, considering we're assuming the beam is fully 100 mil. Otherwise there's nothing else opposing it.
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Godzilla can control the intensity of the breath. As proof of that, he just used a fraction of it in Tokyo. Even if we look back to the old calculation he could have wiped the city in one shot, but no he wanted to see humans suffer for killing his family.
DMUA said:
Though even with it being verifiable I just think taking this 100% literally to it's logical extent isn't really reflected in the actual movie, given they melt rather than outright vaporize the steel they come into contact with (and it doesn't take rocket science to compare some numbers and realize 100,000,000 degrees is far over the boiling point for a lot of substances)
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Like I said before Godzilla can control the intensity of the breath. So the calc goes for the 100% power/temperature.
 
Apex_Predator_GX said:
Dude, this was accepted before as it comes from official sources, and I added the scan of the guidebook from where this statement comes from in the calculation.
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I do apologize for my statement before. I was typing on mobile and it didn't properly showcase the scans so I though you were pulling the value out your ass. Now that I can see the scans I believe the calculation can be used given the calculation group accepts it. Still it is an insane increase from both what he currently scales to and the destruction shown, so I reserve the right to be skeptical.
 
DMUA said:
When is it stated to be a fraction of his power?
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It wasn't stated, but it was shown across the movie, as in some scenes he used more power with his breath than others. Like when he destroyed two cargo ships at the beginning of the movie, generating a Tier 7-B feat (even if we lowball the temperature to 100 degrees). With that level of power, he could have wiped Tokyo in one shot, but he wanted revenge on humans and made them suffer for killing his family.
 
Apex_Predator_GX said:
It wasn't stated, but it was shown across the movie, as in some scenes he used more power with his breath than others. Like when he destroyed two cargo ships at the beginning of the movie, generating a Tier 7-B feat (even if we lowball the temperature to 100 degrees).
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Seems like basic inconsistency rather than a straight up power
Apex_Predator_GX said:
With that level of power, he could have wiped Tokyo in one shot, but he wanted revenge on humans and made them suffer for killing his family.
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Where is that stated? Show me.
 
I could play a bit of devil's advocate here and say you could scale OG Godzilla to some of the Millennium versions of himself since the OG film is literally canon to all of them and half the time is literally the same Godzilla, like Final Wars who is literally OG 54 Godzilla just getting beaten a different way than the original.
 
DMUA said:
Then it should be easy to state why again for someone who evidently wasn't there

Though even with it being verifiable I just think taking this 100% literally to it's logical extent isn't really reflected in the actual movie, given they melt rather than outright vaporize the steel they come into contact with (and it doesn't take rocket science to compare some numbers and realize 100,000,000 degrees is far over the boiling point for a lot of substances)
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Yeah I think this is too hyperbolic, such energy is not consistent with anything else in the movie.
 
Arceus0x said:
Seems like basic inconsistency rather than a straight up power
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Yeah pretty much, I also don't get what the "he just wants humans to suffer they killed his family" business is about, Godzilla in the original is just a creature running around after being irradiated into the state he's in

The movie isn't about revenge, it's about the escalation of conflict. If those were reversed, it'd be very strange that the final line of the movie is "if we keep using these weapons, another Godzilla could appear..." After the plot's ultimately resolved by yet another horribly destructive device in the oxygen destroyer.
 
Arceus0x said:
Seems like basic inconsistency rather than a straight up power
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All Godzillas can control their fire power.
Arceus0x said:
Where is that stated? Show me.
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Dude, he has the power to do so, and guides confirm he wants revenge.
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Yeah I think this is too hyperbolic, such energy is not consistent with anything else in the movie.
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....He has an accepted 6-B feat...

DMUA said:
Yeah pretty much, I also don't get what the "he just wants humans to suffer they killed his family" business is about, Godzilla in the original is just a creature running around after being irradiated into the state he's in

The movie isn't about revenge, it's about the escalation of conflict.
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Then you're ignoring a lot of contexts..
 
Yeah, so... As I said, this kind of formula (and even the concept of thermal radiation and how it works) is typically not taken in mind by creators of series unless blatantly made to be the case. So definitely take the calculation's consistency with a grain of salt. There's a chance it's not consistent with what's known about the series, and as such, I wouldn't fully commit the ratings solely on this.

Rest of my thoughts are in the blog's comments as said earlier.
 
Migue79 said:
Yeah, so... As I said, this kind of formula (and even the concept of thermal radiation and how it works) is typically not taken in mind by creators of series unless blatantly made to be the case. So definitely take the calculation's consistency with a grain of salt. There's a chance it's not consistent with what's known about the series, and as such, I wouldn't fully commit the ratings solely on this.

Rest of my thoughts are in the blog's comments as said earlier.
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Godzilla has other Tier 6 feat. That would help in this case?
 
If they're not higher than what you just calced that feat, probs not.
 
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