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Didn't Gojo have Dura Neg? Or was that the Hollow Purple change?
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Gojo vs Black Sperm (JJK vs OPM) (3-0-0)
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They don't have High 7-A durability.
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Oh yeah, Black Sperm is gonna get brain fried. The question is: can he group them up to cause as much damage as he can efficiently? I think he can. Gojo isn't stupid and would realize that he's getting jumped pretty badly and will find moments where he can efficiently use UV or HP to kill them. And Gojo has a LOT of CE and CT efficiency to pull off a lot of AOEs. If he could keep Limitless up as a Teenager for 72 hours non-stop, as an Adult he sure would have even more endurance with better control.
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Yeah you're right. I doubt that matters thought, he can unleash a 120% Purple, or a max output Blue to destroy hundreds realistically.
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That won't matter because they all have unknown durability and are generally glass cannons.
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Does Black Spermatozoon even have a win condition? When pressured, they tend to combine together into conglomerations, which would make it easier for Gojo to take them out.
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And once they're all in one place, Gojo crosses his fingers and ggs
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Pretty much. Granted, Gojo can use Unlimited Void multiple times in a row, so he can just spam it for a bit and win that way.
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When you think about it, this becomes closer and closer to a stomp. Black Coom's big wincon here is to wear down Gojo so he will drop his Limitless, but Gojo has easy AOEs with a shit load of endurance to keep launching them thanks to the Six Eyes and his massive CE reserves. With very little experience and strength compared to this key he kept Limitless up for 72 hours doing screw all. Then he'll try to bunch up to jump him, which will prompt Gojo to Infinite Void and melt his f**king brain.
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Even with his simul-RCT trick, he is still burnt out for a bit, with billions of 7-As.
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They can't get past Limitless (which basically has zero Cursed Energy cost to Gojo), and their durability is so bad that literally any of Gojo's attacks tear through them like wet tissue paper. Gojo won't need to worry about Reverse Cursed Technique or being burnt out from using too many Domain Expansions because he doesn't need them to win.
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Yeah, the Cursed Energy cost of Limitless is described as "infinitely close to zero" (or something like that) for Gojo thanks to his Six Eyes.
He also had to manually keep Limitless up, and he was fighting and doing tiring activity the entire time too.
Pretty much.
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So you agree that he can't just spam Domain Expansions, yes?
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Sure, depending on your definition of "spam."
He can use it multiple times in a row if he wants, but it's not necessary.
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Well he couldn't because if he failed to catch all the sperm in his Domain, he'd be burnt out and get ripped apart.
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Using Unlimited Void a few times won't burn him out, and Gojo would still have Limitless up anyway.
Though, I'm not sure if Gojo would even feel pressured enough to use Unlimited Void in the first place.
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Gojo would be smart to not just start with Domain Expansion, he would try to clear out the crowd with AOEs and then they would switch tactics and try to form into a comglomerate, since he would be wise to not use a DE against a mob his domain would not even come close to wiping out. Then they form one big coom and then Gojo fries his brain ggs
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This is not true. A single Domain Expansion will burn out his Cursed Technique, as is the case for every Sorcerer. This is seen in Shinjuku Showdown.
I think if he doesn't cast his Domain then Gojo wins. And I doubt he'd cast it if he doesn't think he'd catch all of the Sperm.
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He would definitely not use DE immediately, he isn't stupid, quite the opposite actually. He will beat Sperm because he wouldn't use DE until he sees them merging
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I'll have to go reread that part of the manga because I remember Gojo using Unlimited Void a lot in that fight.
Well, we agree on that.
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If Gojo expands his Domain, like any other Sorcerer he will experience Cursed Technique Burnout, and will be unable to use Limitless at all for a period of time.
Gojo can speed up this process and manually restore his Cursed Technique by damaging his right prefrontal cortex with Cursed Energy while simultaneously healing it with Reverse Cursed Technique.
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Ok.
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Ok. But he isn't gonna use it because this Gojo has the experience of someone catching him after baiting him into using DE on fodder, so he will save it since unlike Shibuya, there are no civilians.
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I vote Goonjo FRA
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More than seven votes have been cast for Gojo, so grace should already start.
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Can someone count up the votes?
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I honestly think this is a stomp, so I don't think it should be added.
If it's not considered a stomp for some reason, then I vote Gojo (if that wasn't clear from my previous posts).
If it's not considered a stomp for some reason, then I vote Gojo (if that wasn't clear from my previous posts).
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Yeah, I think Gojo stomps because Black Spunk's wincon is outlasting Gojo, which with 7-A durability he would have a chance, but since most of them get one shotted by the majority of Gojo's techniques thanks to unknown dura and a pretty piss poor potrayal, which most of those techniques he can spam for a VERY long time, he will be forced to form a conglomerate, which will allow Gojo to just use Infinite Void and one shot.
So outlasting Gojo is impossible by sheer numbers because Gojo would be able to fight for potentially weeks, so the numbers advantage is useless, and if they combine, overpowering Gojo is impossible because Gojo will still have Limitless, and Gojo gains the easiest wincon of the century of just crossing his fingers.
This is a stomp, it should be closed.
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Why do you assume he could fight for weeks? People like to make the argument that gojo could maintain Infinity for two or three days straight when he was younger. But keep in mind this was when he was in a casual state. That is not the same as being able to fight while maintaining Infinity for quite possibly days against trillions of opponents.
Even if Black Sperm chooses to conglomerate, Golden Sperm and Platinum Sperm are restricted, so he could only merge with a lesser number of clones. Once he experiences Infinite Void and Infinity, he'd realize that merging would only decrease his cell stock, so he'd stick to wearing him down.
People really underestimate how many clones of himself Black Sperm has. A billion opponents by themselves is crazy to imagine. Repeat those billion opponents 1,000 times, and you get 1 trillion. Then multiply 1 trillion by 54, and that's how many clones Black Sperm has. Even if all the Black Sperm clones have unknown durability, it's naive to assume that all the clones would be destroyed by Gojo's Red or Hollow Purple.
Gojo would have to use Infinite Void multiple times to really put down the Black Sperm clones. Even for Gojo, he could only use it four to five times against Sukuna before his brain was overloaded due to repairing it with RCT. Assuming it wouldn't take as much stress to activate Infinite Void since there's no opposing domain to fight against, he could probably use it ten times at most? I really don't know, but you really can't say he could spam his domain dozens of times. Even for Gojo, that is a stretch. Considering the size of the domain and the number of clones, it's naive to assume the Infinite Void would be able to kill billions of clones with every domain expansion.
So no, this is not a stomp, despite what people claim.
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Gojo keeping Limitless on for three days straight when he was younger was not when he was in a casual state. Gojo was in a pretty high-stress situation, facing constant fights while trying to protect Riko, was sleep-deprived, and, unlike current Gojo, he had to manually keep Limitless up (which he did, even while sleeping), and it was far more taxing, Cursed Energy-wise.
Current Gojo is a lot more experienced, so not only is Limitless always up automatically, but thanks to mastering his Six Eyes and Limitless, Limitless's Cursed Energy cost is described as "infinitely close to zero" (or something like that), so it's not going to be overtaxing him any time soon.
Black Spermatozoon still has to conglomerate themselves to have any hope of hurting Gojo (remember, just one is so weak a puppy could beat it up), so that will reduce the amount Gojo has to kill.
While it is a lot, Gojo can spam Red and Blue pretty well, so, while it might take a while, Gojo will eventually kill them all.
Gojo likely wouldn't use Unlimited Void (or use it multiple times) because he doesn't really need to.
Though, if he wanted to make sure he gets a large amount of Black Spermatozoon with one Unlimited Void, he can just Blue to gravitationally attract a large number of them into a single area.
I disagree.
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To be fair, even if you wanted to argue he can't maintain infinity while also fighting for days... it doesn't really matter since at any point Gojo could choose to just stop fighting and keep his infinity up and let his Cursed Energy replenish. Not like anyone could stop him from doing it if he has Infinity up.
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As Shift said, Gojo, with far less experience and control, was able to manually keep Infinity up for 72 hours, even while sleeping, having intense mental stress, distractions, and fights all the while. This Gojo has mastered the Six Eyes and Limitless to where he can have it active 24/7, and his CE efficiency is so potent that it is described as Infinitesmal (infinitely closer to 0), not to mention Gojo is no slouch in the amount of CE he has either. All of this makes Gojo more than capable of fighting for that long.
Gojo would not use Infinite Void immediately, I have said this 500 times already that Gojo wouldn't. He is a combat genius who had already been tricked that way before in Shibuya when Kenjaku caught him after he used it in the train station. So no, Black Sperm will not have time to adapt because once he realizes Gojo can fight him much longer than expected with a shit ton of AOEs and virtually no energy expent, he will likely resort to merging in hopes he can raw power through Infinity.
They get bullied by puppies, Gojo stomps each clone with his fingernail.
sigh read what I said about Infinite Void
It is, Sperm's wincons are impossible
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