GOH: Mori Nonduality

Megaraptor149 · Nov 21, 2023

Continuation of Continuation of Previous Thread

Nonduality (Nature Type 1 & Aspect At least Type 1) for Mori Dan

When he reaches Nirvana, he ascends to the higher plane of existence, where space-time overlaps which exists outside/above/beyond all creation. Becoming a spiritual and absolute being that can governs all of creation in all universes from this plane, as he is freed from physical bondage and reaches the realm of perfect godliness, his connection to the world is severed by all of it.

Talk about Duality. Dualities itself is exists within in creation. Such as yin and yang followed by it like light and darkness, day and night, alpha and omega, heaven and earth, taichi and wuchi, emptiness and annihilation.

When Mori reaches Nirvana he exists outside/above/beyond and governs it.

Also, this gives him Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 2) and Immortality (Type 5), which exist outside the duality of life and death, emptiness and annihilation.

Agree: Maitreya, DavidTPPM, LordGriffin1000, UchihaSlayer96, Memonto_Mori, Halkum145, Jordan911
Neutral: MacksXOXO
Disagree:

Maitreya12 · Nov 21, 2023

Megaraptor149 said:
When Mori reaches Nirvana he exists beyond and governs it.

I would add in the fact that Mori is explicitly stated to have broken free of and even ended the karmic cycle of fate and causality.

Karma being the thing described in the series as “encompassing and controlling all phenomena in existence” which of course would include the aforementioned multiple dualities cited in the series.

Megaraptor149 said:
Also, this gives him Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 2) and Immortality (Type 5), which exist outside the duality of life and death, emptiness and annihilation.

Wasn’t nature type 2 rejected in the previous CRT? Because if so I don’t think we should bring it up for this thread and just focus on the non-duality. Immortality type 5 might be its own thing as well.

Megaraptor149 · Nov 21, 2023

Maitreya said:
I would add in the fact that Mori is explicitly stated to have broken free of and even ended the karmic cycle of fate and causality.

Karma being the thing described in the series as “encompassing and controlling all phenomena in existence” which of course would include the aforementioned multiple dualities cited in the series.

Wasn’t nature type 2 rejected in the previous CRT? Because if so I don’t think we should bring it up for this thread and just focus on the non-duality. Immortality type 5 might be its own thing as well.

According my justification on previous CRT it's clearly Nature Type 3. But now Nature Type 2, due to his Nondual.

MacksXOXO · Nov 21, 2023

Megaraptor149 said:
that can govern all things in all universes as he is freed from physical bondage and reaches the realm of perfect godliness

This isnt translated.

Ihsjihahxu · Nov 21, 2023

I think mori jin should be non duality nature 2 aspect 3?

Megaraptor149 · Nov 21, 2023

MacksXOXO said:
This isnt translated.

I pick that link Imgur from his profile, but this translated.

"As I said before, this is the so-called paradise. This is the place where those who have reached Nirvana can control the entire universe and all things."

"Freeing yourself from physical constraints and reaching the realm of complete godliness."

Ihsjihahxu said:
I think mori jin should be non duality nature 2 aspect 3?

Not really.

MacksXOXO · Nov 21, 2023

Neutral for now.

TheUnshakableOne · Nov 21, 2023

Anyone way to prove this scales to mori's physical existence and not just the realm he's in? (Comung from someone whose never read GoH.)

Maitreya12 · Nov 21, 2023

TheUnshakableOne said:
Anyone way to prove this scales to mori's physical existence and not just the realm he's in? (Comung from someone whose never read GoH.)

What, Karma? Yeah hold up, I got just the scan for that.

Megaraptor149 · Nov 21, 2023

Maitreya said:
What, Karma? Yeah hold up, I got just the scan for that.

I think he mean Mori scales to Paradise/Heaven (higher plane of existence) which i refers.

DavidTPPM · Nov 21, 2023

TheUnshakableOne said:
Anyone way to prove this scales to mori's physical existence and not just the realm he's in? (Comung from someone whose never read GoH.)

What exactly are you asking here? I'm not sure I understand. Because these statements

Megaraptor149 said:
"As I said before, this is the so-called paradise. This is the place where those who have reached Nirvana can control the entire universe and all things."
"Freeing yourself from physical constraints and reaching the realm of complete godliness."

Seem to be very blatantly referring to Mori and not the realm he's in.

TheUnshakableOne · Nov 21, 2023

DavidTPPM said:
What exactly are you asking here? I'm not sure I understand. Because these statements

Seem to be very blatantly referring to Mori and not the realm he's in.

The statement to me, as someone who hasn't read the series as an outsider looking in, looks as if it's an aspect if the realm he's on, and not mori physically.

LordGriffin1000 · Nov 21, 2023

Megaraptor149 said:
When he reaches Nirvana, he ascends to the higher plane of existence, where space-time overlaps which exists outside/above/beyond all creation. Becoming a spiritual and absolute being that can govern all things in all universes as he is freed from physical bondage and reaches the realm of perfect godliness, his connection to the world is severed.

The second scan isn't in english like the others and with no translation..

Megaraptor149 · Nov 21, 2023

LordGriffin1000 said:
The second scan isn't in english like the others and with no translation..

Sorry i pick that from link Imgur in his profile.

But this translated for above sentence:

"Here is the place where those who reach Nirvana rule over all universes and all of creation."

And it was already confirmed by native Korean.

LordGriffin1000 · Nov 21, 2023

Megaraptor149 said:
Sorry i pick that from link Imgur in his profile.

But this translated for above sentence:

"Here is the place where those who reach Nirvana rule over all universes and all of creation."

And it was already confirmed by native Korean.

Ok.

I guess Nonduality is fine.

Beardooo · Nov 22, 2023

btw can i ask if this panel wasn't translated for the english version?
it doesn't have any text there. i can't find the raw version to check myself.

Megaraptor149 · Nov 22, 2023

Beardooo said:
btw can i ask if this panel wasn't translated for the english version?
it doesn't have any text there. i can't find the raw version to check myself.

You can find it in newtoki for raw, the reason why use raw rather than english translation in those scans. Because it has different english translate result from the original raw, other scans which i use not really different translation result from original raw.

So this for english translation in second raw scan.

Megaraptor149 said:
Sorry i pick that from link Imgur in his profile.

But this translated for above sentence:

"Here is the place where those who reach Nirvana rule over all universes and all of creation."

And it was already confirmed by native Korean.

Beardooo · Nov 22, 2023

Megaraptor149 said:
You can find it in newtoki for raw, the reason why use raw rather than english translation in those scans. Because it has different english translate result from the original raw, other scans which i use not really different translation result from original raw.

So this for english translation in second raw scan.

idk i couldn't find the raws on the website. but why would the english version not even have any text there?

Megaraptor149 · Nov 22, 2023

Beardooo said:
idk i couldn't find the raws on the website. but why would the english version not even have any text there?

Idk what you mean

Maitreya12 · Nov 22, 2023

Beardooo said:
idk i couldn't find the raws on the website. but why would the english version not even have any text there?

Because they’re not very good translations and can often omit things in the original webtoon.

Beardooo · Nov 22, 2023

Megaraptor149 said:
Idk what you mean

if you look at the pictures i sent, its the panel from the english version, it doesn't have text. even if the translation is bad it wouldn't leave out text.... can you link to the raw version or something?

Maitreya12 · Nov 22, 2023

This is the raws website but it’s payment blocked, unless you have a webtoon account.

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Megaraptor149 · Nov 22, 2023

Beardooo said:
if you look at the pictures i sent, its the panel from the english version, it doesn't have text. even if the translation is bad it wouldn't leave out text.... can you link to the raw version or something?

It's in newtoki for raw free.

Beardooo · Nov 22, 2023

Megaraptor149 said:
It's in newtoki for raw free.

i literally can't find it on there... what do you have to search for?

Megaraptor149 · Nov 22, 2023

Beardooo said:
i literally can't find it on there... what do you have to search for?

Here you can find raw text about Duality stuff.

Beardooo · Nov 22, 2023

Megaraptor149 said:
Here you can find raw text about Duality stuff.

yeah i found it myself, weird how the english version would leave out actual text for the translation lol. webtoon truly is shit at translating lol.

Megaraptor149 · Nov 22, 2023

Beardooo said:
yeah i found it myself, weird how the english version would leave out actual text for the translation lol. webtoon truly is shit at translating lol.

Indeed, Webtoon translation is bad. That why use raw for CRT purpose

Elizhaa · Nov 22, 2023

Which nonduality aspect are you proposing?

Megaraptor149 · Nov 22, 2023

Elizhaa said:
Which nonduality aspect are you proposing?

Nonduality (Nature Type 1, Aspect Type 1)

DavidTPPM · Nov 22, 2023

Megaraptor149 said:
Indeed, Webtoon translation is bad. That why use raw for CRT purpose

Yeah they completely ignored the text instead of translating it. They also did the same to a panel before this.
This is the raw and this is the WT translation. Just straight up ignored some text.

Megaraptor149 · Nov 22, 2023

Actually i looking for Aspect Type 2, but i put Aspect Type 1 on CRT. Because many dualities are mentioned in verse not all.

Also this statement can be used for support Aspect Type 2, but I think it's still not enough.

"Here is the place where those who reach Nirvana rule over all universes and all of creation."

UchihaSlayer96 · Nov 22, 2023

I suppose this looks fine, but I'm not the biggest expert on Non-Duality.

DavidTPPM · Nov 22, 2023

What does nonduality even do? How does it affect a fight or help you?

Megaraptor149 · Nov 22, 2023

DavidTPPM said:
What does nonduality even do? How does it affect a fight or help you?

For defensive

DavidTPPM · Nov 22, 2023

Megaraptor149 said:
For defensive

Okaay and what specifically? Like intangiblity makes things pass through you, armor blocks damage, etc. How does nonduality help you defensively?

Megaraptor149 · Nov 22, 2023

DavidTPPM said:
Okaay and what specifically? Like intangiblity makes things pass through you, armor blocks damage, etc. How does nonduality help you defensively?

Its grants the user immunity to attacks and haxes bound by its duality.

Maitreya12 · Nov 22, 2023

DavidTPPM said:
Okaay and what specifically? Like intangiblity makes things pass through you, armor blocks damage, etc. How does nonduality help you defensively?

Certain haxes like law manipulation or causality manipulation and things like that will not work on characters with non-duality

Megaraptor149 · Nov 22, 2023

Anyway its can be applied, since 2 staff agreed with it. But still need many hours to applied it. Rules is 48 hours since the CRT created.

Megaraptor149 · Nov 22, 2023

Megaraptor149 said:
Its grants the user immunity to attacks and haxes bound by its duality.

In Mori case, he will immun to Light, Darkness, Life, Death Manipulation, Void Manipulation, Existence Erasure, since it's dualities exists in the verse. As well as Immortality (Type 5) and NEP (Nature Type 2)

Megaraptor149 · Nov 22, 2023

Megaraptor149 said:
Anyway its can be applied, since 2 staff agreed with it. But still need many hours to applied it. Rules is 48 hours since the CRT created.

Beside two staff seems members like Maitreya and David agree

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