Ali runs the anime gauntlet part 1: Julius Juukulius [2 MORE VOTES]

Greatsage13th · Jun 16, 2023

Ali (Ejen Ali)

Ali (Full Name: Ali bin Ghazali) is the main protagonist of the Agent Ali series. He is a 12-year-old boy who, at first, had an ordinary life, but then was accidentally hired to M.A.T.A., a secret agency that protects the fictional Malaysian city of Cyberaya from danger. Tier: 8-B, likely 7-C...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Julius Juukulius

I apologize for everything till now, O buds of mine. Clinging to a lost bond, without parting ways with you all, I always made you anxious. I shall free you from that burden, this instant. You did well staying with my prior self till now, O buds. I depended on your love, and stubbornly remained...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Both are 8-B

Base Ali is used.

Speed is equalized

Both have prior knowledge.

Both are 13 meters apart.

Ali: 6

Julius: 1

Incon: 0

Fezzih_007 · Jun 16, 2023

Wow, i love gauntlet actually, they are fun.
Anyway, Ali have 93.8 Tons of TNT while Julius is 27.66 Tons of TNT.
This is fine. Julius can one-shot with Soul Manipulation.
Ali can spins his orbs to get more Power and speed i think, so this might be a problem, but Julius can dodges attacks faster than him, so is good.
Ali have a forcefield, so he could block most of Julius attacks, but Julius can also do that.
And apparently, he also the better fighter.

I would want to wait for more people say more about Ali before casting a vote, but i gonna do It anyway, voting Julius until someone does a argument to Ali.

SatellaTheWoE · Jun 16, 2023

Fezzih_007 said:
Wow, i love gauntlet actually, they are fun.
Anyway, Ali have 93.8 Tons of TNT while Julius is 27.66 Tons of TNT.
This is fine. Julius can one-shot with Soul Manipulation.
Ali can spins his orbs to get more Power and speed i think, so this might be a problem, but Julius can dodges attacks faster than him, so is good.
Ali have a forcefield, so he could block most of Julius attacks, but Julius can also do that.
And apparently, he also the better fighter.

I would want to wait for more people say more about Ali before casting a vote, but i gonna do It anyway, voting Julius until someone does a argument to Ali.

Another point to note is that Julius can also buff himself and debuff his opponents stats

Greatsage13th · Jun 16, 2023

Fezzih_007 said:
Ali can spins his orbs to get more Power and speed i think, so this might be a problem, but Julius can dodges attacks faster than him, so is good.

He can't. Because that's only specifically for his post-data erasure override mode.

Fezzih_007 said:
Ali have a forcefield, so he could block most of Julius attacks, but Julius can also do that.
And apparently, he also the better fighter.

Better fighter yes, but he'd probably have a lot of trouble trying to bypass whatever I.R.I.S. Is showing Ali with astronomically higher perception speed.

SatellaTheWoE said:
Another point to note is that Julius can also buff himself and debuff his opponents stats

That would be unhelpful. As Ali isn't physically that strong. His Dura and AP is reliant on technology.

Fezzih_007 · Jun 16, 2023

Hmmm, so i don't know now who wins.

Greatsage13th · Jun 16, 2023

Fezzih_007 said:
Hmmm, so i don't know now who wins.

...that's why we continue to debate until we see which side has the biggest advantages bud.

Fezzih_007 · Jun 16, 2023

Greatsage13th said:
...that's why we continue to debate until we see which side has the biggest advantages bud.

Well, since i don't exactly know Ali, can you put his list of Wincons?

SatellaTheWoE · Jun 16, 2023

I agree with Fezzih, havent really ever seen Ali in action either

Greatsage13th · Jun 16, 2023

Give me a moment as I get on my laptop

Greatsage13th · Jun 16, 2023

SatellaTheWoE said:
I agree with Fezzih, havent really ever seen Ali in action either

The I.R.I.S. basically allowed him to avoid projectiles thrown and shockwaves sent at him through a solid medium while he was very inexperienced with the stuff as in this episode he was just a high school student with no experience with combat nor intelligence with normal human statistics.

A yoyo that when spun turns into a 6-C shield for him to block attacks and launching the Yoyo at anyone would generate an electric shockwave that'd do heavy damage or at the very least knock someone out.

In any case, if Julius were to win the fight. He by any means necessary should not knock out or heavily strain Ali's mental state otherwise he'd basically be signing his own death by doing so.

VortechsTG · Jun 16, 2023

Fezzih_007 said:
Ali have a forcefield, so he could block most of Julius attacks, but Julius can also do that.

About Julius' shield, it tanked an attack even stronger than one that knocked Wilhelm out, who the 27 tons comes from. And that was with just a single one of his six spirits. I don't think he should have any problem shielding Ali's attacks.

Additionally, his rainbow magic is crazy haxed as it's able to cut through all other kinds of magic, which would include shields like his own and even yin magic which manipulates space and time. I honestly don't see what's stopping him from one-shotting here.

Greatsage13th · Jun 16, 2023

VortechsTG said:
About Julius' shield, it tanked an attack even stronger than one that knocked Wilhelm out, who the 27 tons comes from. And that was with just a single one of his six spirits. I don't think he should have any problem shielding Ali's attacks.

Additionally, his rainbow magic is crazy haxed as it's able to cut through all other kinds of magic, which would include shields like his own and even yin magic which manipulates space and time. I honestly don't see what's stopping him from one-shotting here.

The only thing I see that has durability negation is Al Clauzeria. And even so, would he start off with that against a toddler?

VortechsTG · Jun 16, 2023

Greatsage13th said:
The only thing I see that has durability negation is Al Clauzeria. And even so, would he start off with that against a toddler?

I mean, he's fought kids before lol. But, yeah, he'd have to be given a damn good reason to even participate in this fight.

Anyway, all of his rainbow magic should have those hax and there's nothing stopping him from applying it in a way we haven't seen before either as long as it isn't anything complicated

Greatsage13th · Jun 16, 2023

VortechsTG said:
Anyway, all of his rainbow magic should have those hax and there's nothing stopping him from applying it in a way we haven't seen before either as long as it isn't anything complicated

We've only seen it applied to his sword and shot at like a beam. He hasn't shown any other methods aside from these 2.

Fezzih_007 · Jun 16, 2023

Hmmmm i don't think Julius resist Eletricity Manipulation, so If he got hit, he probally would get knocked out.
Edit: Actually, Nevermind

VortechsTG · Jun 16, 2023

Greatsage13th said:
We've only seen it applied to his sword and shot at like a beam. He hasn't shown any other methods aside from these 2.

There's also Cranvel but that's beside the point. Magic can be shaped into any form as long as you're skilled enough to do so. Rainbow magic is just hard to work with so Julius can't do much. It's probably unrealistic for him to develop a new ability like that mid-combat anyway.

VortechsTG · Jun 16, 2023

Fezzih_007 said:
Hmmmm i don't think Julius resist Eletricity Manipulation, so If he got hit, he probally would get knocked out.

If he took a direct hit personally, yes. Although his shield should be able to block lightning magic.

Greatsage13th · Jun 16, 2023

Fezzih_007 said:
Hmmmm i don't think Julius resist Eletricity Manipulation, so If he got hit, he probally would get knocked out.

Can't he just dodge?

Fezzih_007 · Jun 16, 2023

Greatsage13th said:
Can't he just dodge?

yeah, but is not like he can dodge forever right?

VortechsTG · Jun 16, 2023

Fezzih_007 said:
yeah, but is not like he can dodge forever right?

If he amped his reactions like he did against Cecilus he could.

SatellaTheWoE · Jun 16, 2023

Didnt he manage to block Ceci who is far faser rhan him via instictive reaction?

VortechsTG · Jun 16, 2023

SatellaTheWoE said:
Didnt he manage to block Ceci who is far faser rhan him via instictive reaction?

To be fair he was holding back iirc but he was still about to heavily speed-blitz Julius

SatellaTheWoE · Jun 16, 2023

VortechsTG said:
To be fair he was holding back iirc but he was still about to heavily speed-blitz Julius

I finally remember.
you are the guy from the youtube comment section, i kept having this deja vu whenever i saw your name

VortechsTG · Jun 16, 2023

SatellaTheWoE said:
I finally remember.
you are the guy from the youtube comment section, i kept having this deja vu whenever i saw your name

...

Greatsage13th · Jun 17, 2023

With speed equalized the only speed advantage Ali has is perception via I.R.I.S and a disadvantage in travel speed.

Greatsage13th · Jun 17, 2023

Julius however has advantage in skill and versatility but to win he is required to kill Ali immediately otherwise override mode would activate and Julius would receive the Subaru treatment.

VortechsTG · Jun 17, 2023

Greatsage13th said:
Julius however has advantage in skill and versatility but to win he is required to kill Ali immediately otherwise override mode would activate and Julius would receive the Subaru treatment.

In that case the result of this matchup entirely depends on the reason they are fighting and prior knowledge they have of each other and/or if they're bloodlusted. And since it says they have prior knowledge in the matchup I imagine that Julius would immediately go for the kill knowing he would die otherwise.

Greatsage13th · Jun 17, 2023

VortechsTG said:
And since it says they have prior knowledge in the matchup I imagine that Julius would immediately go for the kill knowing he would die otherwise.

Ali would dodge while taking shots at Julius. A start shockwave would at least knock him out allowing Ali to take the W

SatellaTheWoE · Jun 17, 2023

Greatsage13th said:
Ali would dodge while taking shots at Julius. A start shockwave would at least knock him out allowing Ali to take the W

Dont forget about the debuff and buff though, that ought to help not to mention Julius only needs to get one hit in to kill Ali

Greatsage13th · Jun 17, 2023

SatellaTheWoE said:
Dont forget about the debuff and buff though, that ought to help not to mention Julius only needs to get one hit in to kill Ali

That one hit kill is only via Al. Also, debuff is useless against someone that is physically only a normal human but has higher stats via equipment.

SatellaTheWoE · Jun 17, 2023

Greatsage13th said:
That one hit kill is only via Al. Also, debuff is useless against someone that is physically only a normal human but has higher stats via equipment.

That doesnt matter? Why would a buffed character getting debuffed in another way make it useless?

Greatsage13th · Jun 17, 2023

SatellaTheWoE said:
That doesnt matter? Why would a buffed character getting debuffed in another way make it useless?

If you were talking about debuffing Ali. What kind of debuff were you hinting at? Because mostly thought it was statistics based.

SatellaTheWoE · Jun 17, 2023

Greatsage13th said:
If you were talking about debuffing Ali. What kind of debuff were you hinting at? Because mostly thought it was statistics based.

There are statistic debuffs but since Julius has prior knowledge he should be aware that Ali's senses can be cut via Shamak which he absolutely knows so there is a good chance he will use that to try and catch him off guard.

Juli uses Al clausaria a lot in character and due to prior knowledge, he would be extra wary and would probably try to kill him asap, possibly using it with shamak, add his skill advantage iver all of this and I would say Julius can take this comfortably.

~~Also it seems i missed something, why wouldn't statistic debuff work on Ali?~~

Greatsage13th · Jun 17, 2023

SatellaTheWoE said:
There are statistic debuffs but since Julius has prior knowledge he should be aware that Ali's senses can be cut via Shamak which he absolutely knows so there is a good chance he will use that to try and catch him off guard.

I.R.I.S.

SatellaTheWoE said:
Juli uses Al clausaria a lot in character and due to prior knowledge, he would be extra wary and would probably try to kill him asap, possibly using it with shamak, add his skill advantage iver all of this and I would say Julius can take this comfortably.

But it wouldn't mean much if I.R.I.S. (the goggles he has on his face) is still synced with his body which basically ensures he knows what's up even with the loss of any 5 senses.

SatellaTheWoE said:
~~Also it seems i missed something, why wouldn't statistic debuff work on Ali?~~

He's more of a Child Emperor than a Saitama.

SatellaTheWoE · Jun 17, 2023

Greatsage13th said:
I.R.I.S.

But it wouldn't mean much if I.R.I.S. (the goggles he has on his face) is still synced with his body which basically ensures he knows what's up even with the loss of any 5 senses.

How does it work btw

Greatsage13th said:
He's more of a Child Emperor than a Saitama.

Well shit the IRS is more broken than i thought

Greatsage13th · Jun 17, 2023

SatellaTheWoE said:
How does it work btw

A short summary of what I.R.I.S. is

SatellaTheWoE said:
Well shit the IRS is more broken than i thought

Not really, unless he suddenly goes override mode.

SatellaTheWoE · Jun 17, 2023

Greatsage13th said:
A short summary of what I.R.I.S. is

Not really, unless he suddenly goes override mode.

Really linked me up the entire episodes

Greatsage13th · Jun 17, 2023

SatellaTheWoE said:
Really linked me up the entire episodes

Pretty sure I linked the episodes on the exact timeframe of the I.R.I.S. showings

Greatsage13th · Jun 18, 2023

Greatsage13th · Jun 20, 2023

Ali: 1

Julius: 0

Incon: 0

Ali runs the anime gauntlet part 1: Julius Juukulius [2 MORE VOTES]

Similar threads