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Acausality vs HD Causality

LordGinSama

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Title is self explanatory, this thread serves the purpose of finding out if characters with type 4 Acausality can resist higher dimensional forms of Causality / Fate Manipulation. Example being that character A has type 4 Acausality but their cosmology only extends to 3-D in size and Potency. Character B comes from a verse from a much bigger cosmology and has Causality Manipulation that works on a 4-D level.



Given the difference of infinity between the two system of cause and effect character B's Causality Manipulation should be more than capable of overpowering character A's Acausality.
 
That's never been a thing.

In fact, I've heard multiple times before that Acausality is unbound by dimensionality. When has dimensions played a part in the ability?
 
azontr said:
That's never been a thing.

In fact, I've heard multiple times before that Acausality is unbound by dimensionality. When has dimensions played a part in the ability?
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It always has been, if a system of cause and effect scales above another in terms of Dimensionality then it would affect 3-D Acausality.

Remember most forms of Acausality only grant a resistance, not Immunity.
 
Literally never heard of that being a thing. Idk what side of the wiki we've been on.
 
azontr said:
That's never been a thing.

In fact, I've heard multiple times before that Acausality is unbound by dimensionality. When has dimensions played a part in the ability?
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Cause and effect takes place in time, which is itself a dimension. So a character's acausality can't logically be assumed to apply within a causality system in a higher dimension of time. Let's say a character is acausal in a basic 4 dimensional universe of 3 physical dimensions and 1 dimension of time. If they're moved to a 5 dimensional universe with 2 time dimensions, at best their acausality is only going to work on the lower 4th dimension of time; they have no showings of affecting 5th dimensional time. It wouldn't make much sense for them to be able to, either, since the 5th dimension is infinitely greater than the 4th.
 
SheevShezarrine said:
Cause and effect takes place in time, which is itself a dimension. So a character's acausality can't logically be assumed to apply within a causality system in a higher dimension of time. Let's say a character is acausal in a basic 4 dimensional universe of 3 physical dimensions and 1 dimension of time. If they're moved to a 5 dimensional universe with 2 time dimensions, at best their acausality is only going to work on the lower 4th dimension of time; they have no showings of affecting 5th dimensional time. It wouldn't make much sense for them to be able to, either, since the 5th dimension is infinitely greater than the 4th.
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^^^^
 
Guys look I know the ability is based on dimensions now you don't have to keep quoting meeeeee
 
SheevShezarrine said:
Cause and effect takes place in time, which is itself a dimension. So a character's acausality can't logically be assumed to apply within a causality system in a higher dimension of time. Let's say a character is acausal in a basic 4 dimensional universe of 3 physical dimensions and 1 dimension of time. If they're moved to a 5 dimensional universe with 2 time dimensions, at best their acausality is only going to work on the lower 4th dimension of time; they have no showings of affecting 5th dimensional time. It wouldn't make much sense for them to be able to, either, since the 5th dimension is infinitely greater than the 4th.
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Actually it was passed thar time and causality are separat altogether. They have no correlation in this wiki because some verses domt treat them the same.

For example, Saint Seiya has the buddhist concept of Karma and Law of Dependent Origination that drives causality forward and creates events, not time.

Causality being time itself must be proven by the verse itself however but by default their separate
 
isn't the consensus before is that acausality tied to dimensionality now? if Aca type 5 was effected then aca type 4 and above will also take the effect as well unless you say things like lack future or lack fate or something like that
 
azontr said:
That's never been a thing.

In fact, I've heard multiple times before that Acausality is unbound by dimensionality. When has dimensions played a part in the ability?
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Wrong. Its updated. IT is bound by dimensionality.
 
vsbw mfers on their way to overcomplicate the system and ruin it even further:
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That just sounds like bs. Acausality isn't a dimensionally bound thing. Now wed have to assume that higher dimensional beings can interact with Nep type 2 individuals or transduality type 2 then
 
Greatsage13th said:
That just sounds like bs. Acausality isn't a dimensionally bound thing. Now wed have to assume that higher dimensional beings can interact with Nep type 2 individuals or transduality type 2 then
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Well these likely need to be changed themselves. But logically all these would have to be bound by the dimension they operate in.

And cause and effect being bound by dimensions is just a natural consequence by existing, the higher the dimension the more spatial dimensions cause and effect must function in and if a character doesn’t show that level with his acausality or causality hax then we go with the only thing to be shown.
 
I’m surprised acausality and transdual weren’t always considered bounded by dimensions.
 
I mean, it's one of those remnants of the site back when it seriously used omnipotence as a term to rate tier 0s.
 
Oh, not like that, lmao, more like assuming anyone that was "above" (standards were poor and more arbitrary back then) High 1-As was inherently omnipotent, and so by extension such characters had to also be portrayed as omniscient and overall with no limits.
 
It already is, as much as feats are required for someone with NEP to survive their dimensional structure being nuked, especially with how now it's just Incorporeality with extra steps nowadays, anything else would just be semantics.
 
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