Deku VS Goku (GRACE)

AceOfSpaces3709 · Mar 13, 2022

Irresistible Force VS Immovable Object,

Old Shōnen VS New Shōnen,

Both are High 8-C,

Final Act Deku and General Blue Saga Goku are used,

Both start 10 m apart,

Speed is equalized,

and the Battle takes place at Central Park

Deku’s AP is 2.70 Tons of TNT, higher with Fa Jin

Goku’s AP is 3.72 Tons of TNT

Deku:
Goku: 8
Inconclusive:

Really hope this isn't a stomp, if so, I apologize

sanicspood · Mar 13, 2022

goku cant hurt deku

stomp

AceOfSpaces3709 · Mar 13, 2022

sanicspood said:
goku cant hurt deku

stomp

It’s not, Deku’s Durability is baseline 8-B, Goku in this key was able to easily defeat Mercenary Tao. Who casually one-shot a 3.72 tonner with jus his tongue, not to mention Goku is capable of growing stronger as the fight progresses thanks to his RPL

XSOULOFCINDERX · Mar 13, 2022

I would usually say Blackwhip is a massive issue here but Goku actually outmuscles Deku pretty hard here so Blackwhip will only be useful for Ranged Strikes. Deku's Prediction abilities will make hitting him ridiculously hard and the fact that he basically has massive Shields built into his Costume on his Arms and Legs make damaging him even hard than it would be even with his Stone Wall Durability. I can see Deku just outlasting him and then kicking his ass when Goku finally gets tired from fighting for several hours.

Mapl3Sy4up · Mar 13, 2022

XSOULOFCINDERX said:
I would usually say Blackwhip is a massive issue here but Goku actually outmuscles Deku pretty hard here so Blackwhip will only be useful for Ranged Strikes. Deku's Prediction abilities will make hitting him ridiculously hard and the fact that he basically has massive Shields built into his Costume on his Arms and Legs make damaging him even hard than it would be even with his Stone Wall Durability. I can see Deku just outlasting him and then kicking his ass when Goku finally gets tired from fighting for several hours.

~~The mountain level shields on his arms are probably useful.~~

but also the iron soles give him a second impact upon a kick so it’s two kicks for the price of one

AceOfSpaces3709 · Mar 15, 2022

Nierre · Mar 15, 2022

Danger Sense

AceOfSpaces3709 · Mar 15, 2022

Nierre said:
Danger Sense

Goku could still work around danger sense as he was able to tag Korin, whose main fighting style centers around predicting the movements of an opponent.

Mapl3Sy4up · Mar 15, 2022

AceOfSpaces3709 said:
Goku could still work around danger sense as he was able to tag Korin, whose main fighting style centers around anticipating the movements of an opponent.

I guess it might be harder here? As Deku has precognition from both danger sense and his own analytical prediction. I have no doubt goku can tag him, but combined with the mid gauntlets (which are standard gear, and have 7-A+ durability) and iron soles (which gives each kick a ”blowback function” or a second impact as strong as the first), I think it’ll be hard for him to get in without taking a fair amount himself

CiscoTheSoto · Mar 15, 2022

I think I'll have to give this one to Deku. He has much greater maneuverability than Goku at this point in the story, who hasn't learned how to fly yet, which could be a problem for Goku. He could call Nimbus to fly, but he's never really been shown fighting while flying on the Nimbus, and besides, Deku would definitely be able to fly on the Nimbus too. He also has access to his Smokescreen, and Goku hasn't learned how to sense ki yet, so this could give Deku a distraction and let him land a few solid hits on Goku. Then there's also his Fa Jin, which increases his AP and speed momentarily, and as mentioned above, Deku's equipment gives him a solid advantage due to the durability of the mid-gauntlets as well as the iron soles which give a second impact to his kicks. Because of all that, I believe Deku would win this 6/10.

Thedoctor · Mar 15, 2022

Goku stomps easy, at this point he is easily stronger then everyone in MHA, it's not even fair to compare them

XSOULOFCINDERX · Mar 15, 2022

Thedoctor said:
Goku stomps easy, at this point he is easily stronger then everyone in MHA, it's not even fair to compare them

Bruh, he specifically stated that it's High 8-C Goku being used. The one that is really close in power to Base Deku.

Dreadnought · Mar 15, 2022

Goku (Red Ribbon Saga)
Power level 125

Master Roshi 21st Tenkaichi Budokai
Power Level 135, Destroyed the moon.

A stomp.

Lugh_Tuathe_Dé · Mar 15, 2022

Thedoctor said:
Goku stomps easy, at this point he is easily stronger then everyone in MHA, it's not even fair to compare them

^This is why we should read the OP guys

Thedoctor · Mar 16, 2022

Lugh_Tuathe_Dé said:
^This is why we should read the OP guys

I'm using red ribbon army Goku, the same one op said genius, the same one that in the arc before fought on par with master roshi who is moon level, deku has no chance considering the kind of opponents Goku has been fighting

Thedoctor · Mar 16, 2022

XSOULOFCINDERX said:
Bruh, he specifically stated that it's High 8-C Goku being used. The one that is really close in power to Base Deku.

the only Goku that deku is close to is probably start of dragon ball Goku, he might have a chance then but anything post the first tournament arc deku gets stomped

XSOULOFCINDERX · Mar 16, 2022

Thedoctor said:
the only Goku that deku is close to is probably start of dragon ball Goku, he might have a chance then but anything post the first tournament arc deku gets stomped

If you disagree then make a CRT for it.

Lugh_Tuathe_Dé · Mar 16, 2022

Thedoctor said:
I'm using red ribbon army Goku, the same one op said genius, the same one that in the arc before fought on par with master roshi who is moon level, deku has no chance considering the kind of opponents Goku has been fighting

No, he is only High 8-C in this so Deku can fight goku in here he's not 5-C or Moon level here

Thedoctor · Mar 16, 2022

Lugh_Tuathe_Dé said:
No, he is only High 8-C in this so Deku can fight goku in here he's not 5-C or Moon level here

that's not right because he was that strong during when he destroyed pilafs Castle during the pilaf saga, he got at least 100x stronger then that during master roshis training and even more during the tournament and fighting the red ribbon army, he is at least 8-A at this point which absolutely stomps deku no problem

TheRustyOne · Mar 16, 2022

Thedoctor said:
that's not right because he was that strong during when he destroyed pilafs Castle during the pilaf saga, he got at least 100x stronger then that during master roshis training and even more during the tournament and fighting the red ribbon army, he is at least 8-A at this point which absolutely stomps deku no problem

Dude, read Goku's profile.

You have an issue, make a content revision thread to change his stats. Because anything you say in a versus thread that isn't on the profile, will be ignored.

Lugh_Tuathe_Dé · Mar 16, 2022

Thedoctor said:
that's not right because he was that strong during when he destroyed pilafs Castle during the pilaf saga, he got at least 100x stronger then that during master roshis training and even more during the tournament and fighting the red ribbon army, he is at least 8-A at this point which absolutely stomps deku no problem

Just look at the goddamn profile it's HIGH 8-C and if you disagree with the statistics make a CRT

SuperStar · Mar 16, 2022

Dreadnought said:
Master Roshi 21st Tenkaichi Budokai
Power Level 135, Destroyed the moon.

~~Outlier~~

SuperStar · Mar 16, 2022

Anyway, what are the arguments for Goku's side?

Mapl3Sy4up · Mar 16, 2022

Tf did I just come back to

Mapl3Sy4up · Mar 16, 2022

SuperStar said:
Anyway, what are the arguments for Goku's side?

I believe it’s that he still likely has more skill (given his dismantling of the RR Army), and he has an AP advantage along with LS. Deku kinda just has versatility along with his gear.

Lugh_Tuathe_Dé · Mar 16, 2022

What Acer said

Mapl3Sy4up · Mar 16, 2022

SuperStar said:
~~Outlier~~

Hasn’t it been nearly unanimously agreed upon that power levels are bullshit?

sanicspood · Mar 16, 2022

Thedoctor said:
why would I use wrong information? and why would I want to waste my time trying to get something changed when the verse isn't one of the wank the shit out of them verse that the wiki is biased towards?

if you're incapable of just following basic vs match rules then don't participate in vs matches. Simple.

Lugh_Tuathe_Dé · Mar 16, 2022

Thedoctor said:
why would I use wrong information? and why would I want to waste my time trying to get something changed when the verse isn't one of the wank the shit out of them verse that the wiki is biased towards?

Then don't participate in this thread since we use profile in this which you don't like the statistics

sanicspood · Mar 16, 2022

Thedoctor said:
when the rules are silly enough to nerf one character for no reason they should not be taken seriously

then change the characters stats, if you don't want to, shut the **** up.

Mapl3Sy4up · Mar 16, 2022

Thedoctor said:
when the rules are silly enough to nerf one character for no reason they should not be taken seriously

Mate just calm down. We can agree to disagree, but that’s no reason to derail an entire thread, make a CRT or try and talk to a dev or calc member group to get some solid proof so they can’t be taken down. If you want to participate in this thread then use the statistics given. If not, then try and find another thread to watch.

Lugh_Tuathe_Dé · Mar 16, 2022

Thedoctor said:
when the rules are silly enough to nerf one character for no reason they should not be taken seriously

If you're just gonna complain here leave the thread since it's not giving any contribution to the thread and you're basically derailing it

SuperStar · Mar 16, 2022

Thedoctor said:
why would I use wrong information? and why would I want to waste my time trying to get something changed when the verse isn't one of the wank the shit out of them verse that the wiki is biased towards?

Go away bro, it's for the best this is a versus thread not a complain about stats and cry thread

Thedoctor · Mar 16, 2022

SuperStar said:
Go away bro, it's for the best this is a versus thread not a complain about stats and cry thread

if you think you can bully me into leaving your wrong, if you can't debunk my claims then Don't respond it's not hard

Maverick_Zero_X · Mar 16, 2022

Thedoctor said:
if you think you can bully me into leaving your wrong, if you can't debunk my claims then Don't respond it's not hard

If you think you’re right just change the stats man

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SuperStar · Mar 16, 2022

Maverick_Zero_X said:
If you think you’re right just change the stats man

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^^^

Lugh_Tuathe_Dé · Mar 16, 2022

Thedoctor said:
if you think you can bully me into leaving your wrong, if you can't debunk my claims then Don't respond it's not hard

If you think you're right and then refuse to make a CRT then just shut up because it's just derailing the thread

sanicspood · Mar 16, 2022

just report this dude at this point, this is a consistent thing he does

Thedoctor · Mar 16, 2022

Lugh_Tuathe_Dé said:
If you think you're right and then refuse to make a CRT then just shut up because it's just derailing the thread

I don't derail anything, everything I said was about the match so I don't know what your talking about

sanicspood · Mar 16, 2022

everything you said wasnt even on the profiles, that's derailing

Deku VS Goku (GRACE)

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