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7-A tournament: mid-high hax edition (R2:Jiang Zi Ya vs Natsu)

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Jiang Zi Ya (Investiture of the Gods 2014 TV series)

Jiang Zi Ya is the student of the Heavenly lord of Primordial Beginning and has received the task to help in the formulated plan of the Three Pure Ones, named the Investiture of the Gods, while facing multiple calamities and powerful demons. He is the main protagonist of the series "Investiture...
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Natsu Dragneel (X784 to X791)

Natsu Dragneel is a Mage of the Fairy Tail Guild, wherein he is a member of Team Natsu. He is the younger brother of Zeref Dragneel, having originally died 400 years ago, being subsequently revived as his brother's most powerful Etherious, E.N.D. (Etherious Natsu Dragneel). During this time...
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speed equalized.
Both 10 meters apart
battle takes place in the town of Mondstadt.
Both have prior knowledge.
Both have access to optional equipment.
 
Setsuna_tenma said:
what does ya start with?
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in this case with prior knowledge, allows Natsu to make the first move and when he sees an opening, he'll slash Natsu with the staff for beating gods, which is somehow sharp enough to cut limbs clean off despite being a blunt weapon. But if Natsu starts with a ranged attack, Jiang would toss the nuwa stone at Natsu which would disperse all other incoming projectiles and deal significant damage.
 
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Greatsage13th said:
...I know but which one, a fire punch or a fire projectile?
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what if he would start with fire Punch?

also Natsu has the ap advantage he should scale to far higher then 305 megatons

while Jiang scale to 225 megatons
 
Popted2 said:
what if he would start with fire Punch?

also Natsu has the ap advantage he should scale to far higher then 305 megatons

while Jiang scale to 225 megatons
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If Natsu uses a punch, then Jiang Zi Ya would simply dodge and slash off one of his limbs with the staff for beating gods, which is somehow sharp enough to cut limbs clean off despite being a blunt weapon.

The difference in AP at most would only be 2x which is only minor at best.
 
Does Ya have any resistance to heat manipulation? Because Natsu can constantly radiate heat around his body. He also has several amps and scales way above the 305.7 megatons.
 
SuperStar said:
Does Ya have any resistance to heat manipulation? Because Natsu can constantly radiate heat around his body. He also has several amps and scales way above the 305.7 megatons.
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Yes, Jiang Zi Ya is capable of withstanding whatever flames Natsu is capable of producing, amps doesn't matter that much if Jiang Zi Ya uses the nuwa stone or any attacks in general which would damage Natsu's internal organs. Besides that, Jiang Zi ya could reflect Natsu's attacks back at him.
 
Greatsage13th said:
Yes, Jiang Zi Ya is capable of withstanding whatever flames Natsu is capable of producing, amps doesn't matter that much if Jiang Zi Ya uses the nuwa stone or any attacks in general which would damage Natsu's internal organs. Besides that, Jiang Zi ya could reflect Natsu's attacks back at him.
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Internal Organ damage won't do much to Natsu given he's withstood several internal explosions and only considered them a nuisance and went on to have several other fights throughout the arc without issue.

What feats of fire manip resistance does Jiang have?
 
Since this is X791 Natsu how hot is his fire at this point?? I remember someone saying his fire is around 3000 degrees celsius at this point via vaporize solid rock but I’m not positive

and ya Internal damage is nothing new to Natsu the guy took a total of 4 internal damaging explosions and shrugged it off like it was nothing and he also continued to fight even after being hit by many attacks from Imitatia that targeted his vital spots that caused him intense pain and left him unable control his body and yet he still shrugged it off like it was nothing and went on the battle and defeat midnight

Natsu has had his fire reflected back at him with twice the power and it didn’t faze him in the slightest
 
The nuwa stone was mentioned and it makes me wonder: Does he have only one of those? Does it return to him after use or something?
If it's a one-time use item it might still be useful, but... not extremely useful.
 
TheForgottenKing said:
Since this is X791 Natsu how hot is his fire at this point?? I remember someone saying his fire is around 3000 degrees celsius at this point via vaporize solid rock but I’m not positive

and ya Internal damage is nothing new to Natsu the guy took a total of 4 internal damaging explosions and shrugged it off like it was nothing and he also continued to fight even after being hit by many attacks from Imitatia that targeted his vital spots that caused him intense pain and left him unable control his body and yet he still shrugged it off like it was nothing and went on the battle and defeat midnight

Natsu has had his fire reflected back at him with twice the power and it didn’t faze him in the slightest
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I don't know how hot is Jiang Zi ya's fire either but his true samadhi fire is able to destroy souls and negate any attempts to recreate that particular soul.

So even if all his internal organs got shredded and mushed, he'll still survive.

If Natsu is going to charge in recklessly like that, Jiang Zi ya would take a step back or dodge before severing his limb off with a slash (40:04)

Besides that he could defeat the combined attack of 3 other people who are equal to him in a battle (35:34) and later overpowering them effortlessly in a beam struggle (38:16) and only facing difficulty when the Nuwa stone was used (38:50)

Basically Jiang Zi Ya overpowered the combined effort of 3 people in a beam struggle who scales to the 225 megaton feat.

And later on they trapped him in a barrier and attempted to kill him off in another beam struggle but Jiang Zi Ya just reflected their attacks breaking the barrier and damaging them in the process (33:04)
 
DontTalkDT said:
The nuwa stone was mentioned and it makes me wonder: Does he have only one of those? Does it return to him after use or something?
If it's a one-time use item it might still be useful, but... not extremely useful.
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It's a multiple use item. Which is utilized as a massive projectile that homes in on a target and may return to the user at any time. It can also be used to create barriers and emit light that damages an opponent as well.
 
I don't think he could easily cut off the limbs of an opponent with superior durability.

But barriers, attack reflection and power null would be pretty useful. How good is his flight?
 
DontTalkDT said:
I don't think he could easily cut off the limbs of an opponent with superior durability.

But barriers, attack reflection and power null would be pretty useful. How good is his flight?
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His attacks all negates durability by damaging an enemy from the inside out otherwise how can a blunt weapon cleanly slice off a limb as if it was a blade. Even if Natsu could take the severe internal damage and his limbs didn't get severed, he'd still end up with a very deep wound.

His flight is very decent, his ranged attacks could produce barriers, his powernull is not available to him in this match up as it requires prep and isn't an optional equipment, he's most useful weapon however would be the Nuwa stone. He'll just have to toss it at Natsu and deliver a fatal blow.

He also has the better fighting experience and intelligence, being personally trained and taught by a being for more than 40+ years who existed during the period where Pangu separated heaven and earth which is 4.5 billion years ago.
 
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His attacks all negates durability by damaging an enemy from the inside out otherwise how can a blunt weapon cleanly slice off a limb as if it was a blade. Even if Natsu could take the severe internal damage and his limbs didn't get severed, he'd still end up with a very deep wound.
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Internal damage only negates durability to an extend. When it comes to cutting arms, in particular, it doesn't help all too much as... well, to cut the arm off you ultimately have to sever skin, muscle and bone, whether you use internal damage or not. So if he hits, his arm might be relatively damaged due to internal damage, but I can't see it being cut off. Internal damage is really more effective when hitting the brain or heart or something.

Greatsage13th said:
His flight is very decent, his ranged attacks could produce barriers, his powernull is not available to him in this match up as it requires prep and isn't an optional equipment, he's most useful weapon however would be the Nuwa stone. He'll just have to toss it at Natsu and deliver a fatal blow.

He also has the better fighting experience and intelligence, being personally trained and taught by a being for more than 40+ years who existed during the period where Pangu separated heaven and earth which is 4.5 billion years ago.
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Well, flight should be a pretty big advantage against Natsu, as he only has relatively limited air combat capabilities. I can see Ya take it then.
 
Looks to be that way. Natsu isn't that skilled at this point in the series. I also heard that Dragon Force only last for like seconds, So I think Zi takes this one.
 
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