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3-A
Originally on the other thread with the statements Juda’s universe distortion feat was accepted as at least 3-B, likely 3-A. But after taking a look at the tiering system. I found this line under the footnotes. For 3-A to 2-A"Significantly affect" is used as an umbrella term for feats that don't involve direct creation or destruction but are comparable to them in power, such as warping and distorting the entirety of the structure in question, sustaining its existence with one's own, merging the structure with another one, etc.
And this is a part of Juda’s databook statement that Qliphoth translated for us.
Juda, the Universe "Destroyer":
50,000 years ago, when he attempted to destroy the universe by distorting the whole universe, Father of Ultra corrected the distortion of the universe and he was once defeated, but he has been resurrected many years later. In the recent battle, he and the Grand King, who had been sharing his power with him, disappeared, but there is a possibility that they will be resurrected again.
The description straight up said he distorted the entire universe and the tiering system says distorting the universe qualifies for 3-A so rather than at least 3-B, likely 3-A, Juda should just be straight up 3-A
High 3-A
And for High 3-A I recently found these two statements saying Ultimate Final Geed has infinite power. One is from the novelization of the movie when he transforms and the other is from one of the databook that says fighting power is infinite. And in the last episode of his series (Before he unlocked Ultimate Final in the movie), King also said his infinite potential is still untapped.Qliphoth has also translated these two statements for us
1: "Setting the Evolution Capsule into the Giga Finalizer, Riku transformed.
The ultimate form of Geed, with his power raised to infinity...
Ultraman Geed to the Ultimate Final!"
2: "This is the form with infinite fighting power that has been Ultimate Evolved with the Evolution Capsule. He will continue to fight for the future of the Earth."
And High 3-A wouldn’t even be an outlier as by The Ultra Galaxy Era which is around 10000 year after the Heisei Era, Hikari who along with Max is at the very bottom of the known Ultras scaling is capable of defeating Armored Mephilas who is equal to Armored Darkness who is equal to Alien Empera who is superior to Juda who is 3-A. And Ultimate Final Geed is one of the strongest characters in the Post-Crisis Impact Era (Two Eras after Ultra Galaxy) with only a handful of characters who are stronger than him. And some of them who are stronger than him scales to the Super Dimension Eradication Bomb. Which brings me to my next point.
Low 2-C
Post-Crisis Impact Era Belial survived being in the epicenter of the bomb after having a battle with Ultimate Zero which left them both wounded. And some others roughly scale to, above, and/or below him. The Super Space-Time Eradication Bomb (超時空消滅爆弾 Chō Jikū Shōmetsu Bakudan). Is stated in series and in the databook to be capable of destroying the entire universe by causing a dimension rift that spreads throughout the entire universe. Here is Qliphoth‘s translation of this part from the databook.“The destructive power of the Super Space-Time Eradication Bomb is so great that the original fault line centered on the explosion on said Earth spreads throughout the universe and collapses the entire Side Space. Even with the power of the Ultramans of the Land of Light, they were unable to stop this collapse..."
And as shown with the notes under the tiering system significantly affecting the entire structure would also count as 3-A to 2-A. And the bomb‘s name literally says its a space-time eradication bomb and we have statements both in series and in the databooks that said it affected the entire universe (In this case the Side Space universe which has its own time flow). In the movies it is also mentioned that each universe has its own time flow. It’s the reason why some of the characters in their human forms didn’t seem to age even though it has been years since they last met). And so I believe instead of the bomb being accepted as at least 3-A, likely Low 2-C like in this thread, the bomb should be considered straight up Low 2-C.
Scaling
If these things get accepted the characters that scale would be3-A: Juda, Grand King, Showa Era Super Taro, Glitter Tiga, Heisei Era Future Mode Cosmos, Heisei Era Crusher Mode Justice, Gloker Rook, Gloker Bishop, Giga Endra, Alien Empera, Armored Darkness, Armored Mephilas, possibly U-Killersaurus and Giga Khimaira, everybody Ultra Galaxy Era onwards
High 3-A: Ultimate Final Geed, Snake Darkness, Groob, Post-Crisis Impact Era and Reiwa Era Tregear, Gillvalis, Reiwa Era Ultra Brothers, Galaxy Rising Geed, 2nd Form Greeza (Ultraman Z), Delta Rise Claw Z, Fusion Baraba, Beliarok, Destrudos, Tri-Strium Taiga, Reiwa Era New Generation Ultra’s strongest form, and Woola
Low 2-C: Post-Crisis Impact Era Belial, Post-Crisis Impact Era Ultimate and Shining Zero, Reiwa Era Zero, Tartarus amped Belial and Tregear, Grimdo, Reiwa Era Joneus, Absolute Tartarus, King, Noa, Legend, and Delacion would be Low 2-C. If Father of Ultra is still considered on par with Base Zero even in the Reiwa Era than he would also be Low 2-C. Also Delacion would only be possibly Low 2-C due to the databook saying she might be the creator of the M78 Universe.
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