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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

yeaaaaaaaaaa so like emanators cant travel in imaginary spaces...
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tthey can only travel intertidal zones and now we know that even aeons cant travel imaginary space so yea this is getting nuked
 
Mbpoops said:
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i mean has anyone in hsr actually gone to imaginary space? intertidal zones =/= imaginary/quantum spaces which per otto's own words require you to fuse with extradimensions to access without being erased. emanators arent fused with extradimensions and aeons are bound to the universe so yea
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yes. we have direct confirmation they can travel through imaginary zones. we also like saw SW fight the alternate self within the soq. also, you are kinda JUST assuming that the "spaces" between the leaves or whatever are not part of the tree...
 
Nighting4l33yes said:
yes. we have direct confirmation they can travel through imaginary zones.
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imaginary tidal zones, aka intertidal zones.
Nighting4l33yes said:
we also like saw SW fight the alternate self within the soq.
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are you sure this was the soq? was it ever stated? how do we know this isnt the aether network?
Nighting4l33yes said:
also, you are kinda JUST assuming that the "spaces" between the leaves or whatever are not part of the tree...
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the spaces between leaves is just space... 😭 when did i ever assume they were not on the tree
 
are the imaginary domains not the imaginary zones?
Mbpoops said:
are you sure this was the soq? was it ever stated? how do we know this isnt the aether network?
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girl... they have the same visuals... and its in line with the whole thing of destroyed timelines falling there. pls pls pls lets move on from the whole "we need a direct quote" when we can just use our eyes and see.
Mbpoops said:
the spaces between leaves is just space... 😭 when did i ever assume they were not on the tree
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in japanese and chinese that text doesn't say the universe is finite either. it says "this space-time is finite. It's only natural that the Aeon of Trailblaze, who exists within it, would set Their sights on what lies beyond the universe." the text also says "what lies beyond the Tree of Existence and beyond "Destiny."" and we also learn that the trailblaze would bring the 4th finality.
An unknowable, incalculable universe of madness… a universe where every direction is forward, and there is no end. Time flows, yet nothing ever happens. Space stretches on, yet there is nowhere to go… even existence itself defies all logic. Thinking about it, doesn’t even the answer “Destruction” sound kind? At least it has a clear end…
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at WORST this is just saying that aeons are hard bound to the tree and paths which is what lygus said. and akivili wanted to trailblaze beyond it.
 
Nighting4l33yes said:
in japanese and chinese that text doesn't say the universe is finite either. it says "this space-time is finite. It's only natural that the Aeon of Trailblaze, who exists within it, would set Their sights on what lies beyond the universe." the text also says "what lies beyond the Tree of Existence and beyond "Destiny."" and we also learn that the trailblaze would bring the 4th finality.
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So another en translation f up?
 
Nighting4l33yes said:
in japanese and chinese that text doesn't say the universe is finite either. it says "this space-time is finite. It's only natural that the Aeon of Trailblaze, who exists within it, would set Their sights on what lies beyond the universe." the text also says "what lies beyond the Tree of Existence and beyond "Destiny."" and we also learn that the trailblaze would bring the 4th finality.
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whats the difference 😭 the unvierse is space-time 😭
 
KingOfDarknessBelow said:
So another en translation f up?
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likely. ill be checking both chinese and japanese from now on cuz this cant go on. i can translate japanese so if someone wants to confirm the meaning of smth real quick and dont wanna wait for translations, they can send it to me.

but... if we theorize a bit and guess that it COULD have a double meaning... it could be that the "spacetime" or the "universe" being finite, could mean that it's just the finality restricting it towards a specific destination. in that way, it is in fact finite. cuz he mentions that as well at some point.
 
Nighting4l33yes said:
but... if we theorize a bit and guess that it COULD have a double meaning... it could be that the "spacetime" or the "universe" being finite, could mean that it's just the finality restricting it towards a specific destination. in that way, it is in fact finite. cuz he mentions that as well at some point.
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THIS IS EVEN WORST 😭
 
Nighting4l33yes said:
not necessarily. it could also mean timeline
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space-time is not a timeline because time isnt space, its time. so when its refering to "space-time" being finite it means the entire spacetime of the universe is finite because space and time are what make up the universe
Nighting4l33yes said:
how
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because it means MWI is a lie and the universe is 2-C at most. low 2-C is we write off genshin
 
Mbpoops said:
space-time is not a timeline because time isnt space, its time. so when its refering to "space-time" being finite it means the entire spacetime of the universe is finite because space and time are what make up the universe

because it means MWI is a lie and the universe is 2-C at most. low 2-C is we write off genshin
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mmm i cant answer that. i think we should hold off anything for now. its asat after all. he's duplicitous and untrustworthy after all. unless we get a second confirmation. cuz i sincerely doubt we're meant to disregard the entire verse over 1 statement made by a known liar
 
Nighting4l33yes said:
mmm i cant answer that. i think we should hold off anything for now. its asat after all. he's duplicitous and untrustworthy after all. unless we get a second confirmation. cuz i sincerely doubt we're meant to disregard the entire verse over 1 statement made by a known liar
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the only lie asat ever told was "Nice to meet you im your father Ryusuke". the statement of finite universe was also from a critical success so its made to read like this is the truth, however, its extremely inconsistant so no one should really do anything with it
 
Mbpoops said:
the only lie asat ever told was "Nice to meet you im your father Ryusuke". the statement of finite universe was also from a critical success so its made to read like this is the truth, however, its extremely inconsistant so no one should really do anything with it
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we've had plenty of moments having QnAs with "knowldgable" characters but there were always more than what they said yk? there was always a twist. i am sure this is something similar. we are in the middle of the arc after all. we have at least 3 more patches ahead of us. especially if this ends in 4.8... cuz yk 8 is a special number now i guess. we also have the collab in a week. lets see how they handle that and istaroth
 
Nighting4l33yes said:
we've had plenty of moments having QnAs with "knowldgable" characters but there were always more than what they said yk? there was always a twist. i am sure this is something similar. we are in the middle of the arc after all. we have at least 3 more patches ahead of us. especially if this ends in 4.8... cuz yk 8 is a special number now i guess. we also have the collab in a week. lets see how they handle that and istaroth
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istaroth? the girl from genshin?
 
Nighting4l33yes said:
no that nasuverse goddess whatever her name is? 😭im sure she and rin will got something to say about hsrverse
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Oh ishtar

She prolly wont show up maybe its foreshadowing for next year or some new project nasu working on. Pretty interesting that both characters have direct connections with ishtar
 
I guess the universe would still be 2-A since mwi and genshin sized leaves but if it actually got downgraded to finite no more infinite speed
 
Mbpoops said:
Yk this actually just flat out confirms aeons are bound to the universe and cant travel the actual imaginary tree/space

If akivili wanted ro reach then place that aeons were afraid to travel to, the origin of the tree, and the tree sprouted from the primordial chaos which we believe is imaginary space, that means aeons have most likely not been to the imaginary space or hell even the sea of quanta.

imaginary space is the origin of laws and what not i gotta find the scan

Path space is an imaginary space but not The imaginary space
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The Aeons wouldn't even be able to to enter path space if we take Asat at face value. Its simply not possible for them to be literally bound to the universe when they were completely unaffected by it's destruction, and when Fuli can recreate it after its destroyed. Plus it was literally last chapter that they tossed in Oroborus chasing Aha to the root of the Imaginary Tree, and this after Aha's ascension story being confirmed to not real and not just a parable. Plus they're literally composed of Imaginary Energy. That's like the one thing Imaginary Space is supposed to have. And then we have to throw out things like infinite worlds, which is the explanation given for variants.

At most its a confirmed limitation for Akivili specifically. Maybe cause of their primum mobile? I guess it'd make sense if the Aeon of traveling space has no choice but to idk. But the other Aeons simply do not have that issue. Worst case its getting filed under Schrodinger "confirming" Herrschers to be continent level at best.
 
Cassette95 said:
The Aeons wouldn't even be able to to enter path space if we take Asat at face value.
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i mean everyone can enter path space im not saying they cant leave the universe (mythus aether network H3-A) but their existences are bound to the universe and they allegedly cant enter imaginary space
Cassette95 said:
Its simply not possible for them to be literally bound to the universe when they were completely unaffected by it's destruction, and when Fuli can recreate it after its destroyed.
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universe = space-time

universe gets destroyed

terminus ios still alive

time wasnt destroyed?

classic shaoji
Cassette95 said:
Plus it was literally last chapter that they tossed in Oroborus chasing Aha to the root of the Imaginary Tree, and this after Aha's ascension story being confirmed to not real and not just a parable.
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its hard to tell if they mean the actual tree or just the universe because these mfs keep contradicting the tree itself
Cassette95 said:
Plus they're literally composed of Imaginary Energy. That's like the one thing Imaginary Space is supposed to have. And then we have to throw out things like infinite worlds, which is the explanation given for variants.
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"erm ackshully in ggz its called the honkai universe" - random diddy supporter

but in all seriousness yea but the energy also exists in every dimension so they can be made of that energy while not being able to access the imaginary space

like herrschers are made up of honkai energy but wendy cant just freely travel to imaginary space

i dont plan on nuking aeons or anything i just like to rant on how awful shaoji's writing has become like yea the infinite worlds statement is very blatant and i agree with the universe being infinite (ignore the durandal vn) but apparantly according to shaoji welt is always wrong
Cassette95 said:
At most its a confirmed limitation for Akivili specifically. Maybe cause of their primum mobile? I guess it'd make sense if the Aeon of traveling space has no choice but to idk. But the other Aeons simply do not have that issue. Worst case its getting filed under Schrodinger "confirming" Herrschers to be continent level at best.
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shaoji will rip his face off and reveal that he himself is schrodinger
 
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