Why do you keep saying I'm not saying anything? I've literally been saying it's implausible with the character, and that's further demonstrated when I ask you for at least ONE example of what you're saying, embodied in Gun's performance—at least one.
It's not up to me to prove that Gun knows CQC or even to say that he knows Kendo, Moonlight Style, Taekwondo IFT and many more martial arts that would imply that Gun has mastered them.
We still don't know Daniel UI's limits, and as far as we know, his two most serious fights were against Gun TUI and Lil Daniel UI. And in both, he made it clear that Daniel UI knows a lot more than he lets on.
But Gun doesn't, unless you have proof that backs up his claims.
I agree, 2x for OVT and 3x for Death Kick/Hand.
Edit: It should be noted, however, that since these multipliers are being assumed and we don't have an exact number, I believe they can only be applied to AP/SS.
Yeah, this is a tracking issue. You quite literally argued that “it isn’t shown, thus it’s not true,” despite it being consistent with the narrative. That is, by definition, an argument from silence.
I’ve already proven my claim through argumentation, so the burden of refutation shifts onto your side to showcase a contradiction by proving Gun’s lack of CQC knowledge.
And again, I’m repeating this: I’ve already proven my premise by justifying it using three different metas, and the only type of refutations you even remotely tried were fallacious arguments and blatant bad-faith presuppositions of context.
UI Daniel’s limits being shown or not are, in fact, completely irrelevant due to the fact that Park Tae-jun straight up stated that they have combat ability on par with each other. Thus, by proxy, they have the same skill level. You’d have to show a blatant contradiction to support your own claim, since this is already established by PTJ himself.
Yeah, this was not even my claim. “All martial arts” in this context would only refer to the things that existed when the statement itself was made, aka during HFBD. Back then, we didn’t have Moonlight Style or any unique skills, so the statement itself only applies to the pre-existing martial arts, which includes CQC.
Also, I don’t know why you’re trying to say this is only probable for UI Daniel when, quite literally, both of them share the same narrative of knowing all martial arts, having UI, and being stated by PTJ to have the same combat ability.
This should be consistent since it was narratively shown that he’s one of the most BIQ-driven fighters in Lookism, possessing multiple different martial arts and having knowledge of multiple martial arts, including weapons, alongside his ability to develop counters to techniques.
To simplify this into a syllogism:
Premise 1: Park Tae-jun stated that Gun and UI Daniel have combat ability on par with each other.
Premise 2: Combat ability consists of skill, experience, adaptability, and martial knowledge.
Premise 3: CQC is a martial art and therefore part of martial knowledge.
Conclusion: If UI Daniel has CQC as part of his combat ability, and Gun is directly stated to be equal in combat ability, then Gun must logically possess equivalent knowledge of CQC unless you can provide a contradiction.
And this is where your argument becomes argument from silence: your entire counter is based on the absence of explicit on-panel demonstration (“Gun has never shown CQC, therefore he doesn’t have it”). But absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, especially when the narrative and author statements already establish the broader premise. For your argument to work, you’d need positive evidence disproving Gun’s CQC knowledge, not just the lack of direct showcase.
Otherwise, you’re rejecting an established conclusion solely because it wasn’t visually demonstrated, which is fallacious by definition.
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. THAT'S AN INTELLIGENCE FEAT. Nobody is talking about other types of feat.
