Honkai Impact 3rd - Infinite Speed Arguments (v2)

[Mbpoops]

No, it could move at finite speed and is still be able to get out of black hole if the one who throw it have enough strength, that why not every escaping from Black Hole feat have infinite speed, it could be speed, or LS, or gravity hax resistance

Im a bit lost on how someone with infinite LS is throwing something at finite speeds

They arent using any hax they just apply enough force to throw the iten out of the singularity which would still require infinite travel speed to escape

 

[Mbpoops]

The reason why some verses dont get infinite speed from escsping black hole singularities is becsuse, as plsnck said earlier, they dont respect the irl mechanics of a black hole, however hoyoverse does this to a science

 

[Vietthai96]

Psuedo-science, you can move out of black hole gravitational pull with enough LS, so you throwing an object out of black hole is not necessarily speed only, it could be LS, you are in a gray area

 

[Mbpoops]

Psuedo-science, you can move out of black hole gravitational pull with enough LS, so you throwing an object out of black hole is not necessarily speed only, it could be LS, you are in a gray area

The item being thrown does not have the same LS as the person throwing it? If i throw a ball does the ball have the same LS as me?

 

[Vietthai96]

If you throw an object, you applies a force to it. If the force have enough strength to resist the gravitational pull, then the object will have enough strength to resist.

 

[Mbpoops]

I mean alr thats fair ig, but its not psuedo science since they deadass just copied general relativity

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

Psuedo-science, you can move out of black hole gravitational pull with enough LS, so you throwing an object out of black hole is not necessarily speed only, it could be LS, you are in a gray area

The object must be travelling at infinite speeds as the standards say.
It's only LS because it's throwing an object, infinite LS = infinite throwing speed, it seems.

Why wouldn't this UES to infinite movement speed? I didn't push on this when it came to Space because they explicitly didn't want to talk UES and I respect that choice.

No, it could move at finite speed and is still be able to get out of black hole if the one who throw it have enough strength

Yes, this is true for a black hole when not in the singularity. FTL speeds are still finite speeds.
When in the Singularity, what this CRT says, the standards do say an object has to be moving at infinite speeds.

 

[Mbpoops]

If you throw an object, you applies a force to it. If the force have enough strength to resist the gravitational pull, then the object will have enough strength to resist.

Quick question tho.

Since senti has immeasurable LS would the item being thrown also have immeasurable LS?

 

[Vietthai96]

I mean alr thats fair ig, but its not psuedo science since they deadass just copied general relativity

Anything regarding Black Hole right now is pseudo-science cause we are currently know jack shit about it nature. Also travelling out of black hole require you to goes FTL not infinite speed, but according to general relativity if you goes FTL then you will travel backward in time. So depend on verses escaping a black hole via speed is either FTL or Immeasurable speed.

 

[Vietthai96]

Quick question tho.

Since senti has immeasurable LS would the item being thrown also have immeasurable LS?

It will move at the force that you need Immeasurable LS to catch it

Also Senti have Immeasurable scam not LS

 

[Mbpoops]

Anything regarding Black Hole right now is pseudo-science cause we are currently know jack shit about it nature. Also travelling out of black hole require you to goes FTL not infinite speed, but according to general relativity if you goes FTL then you will travel backward in time. So depend on verses escaping a black hole via speed is either FTL or Immeasurable speed.

General relativity is not psuedo science. Also it is within wiki standards that it is infinite speed

It will move at the force that you need Immeasurable LS to catch it

So immeasurable.

Also Senti have Immeasurable scam not LS

Huh

 

[Mbpoops]

Also wait so the item being thrown with immeasurable force (LS) is moving at immeasurable speed then why doesnt this also apply to infinite LS and speed? You are applying an infinite force to an object

 

[Mbpoops]

Also by your logic we should remove tier 1 as a whole and t0 since nothing in those tiers have actually been proven and are just theories about dimensions/philosophy

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

Also by your logic we should remove tier 1 as a whole and t0 since nothing in those tiers have actually been proven and are just theories about dimensions/philosophy

Let's at least put it properly.

We've discussed in this thread that Tesla states the Spiritual Adam technologically is a singularity like a black hole. We've also went through the in-verse black holes of Hi3 when discussing with Planck, which do qualify as black holes on this wiki.
So she's comparing the technological functions of the Spiritual Adam with the Black Holes that qualify in-verse.

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

Attack speed is fine

Also, I'm trying to get clarification on this because I don't know if the above was a follow up to this:

Remove my possibly infinite speed due to point 3, i actually forgot throwing thing is lifting strength as well

Point 4, hmmm?, we scales due to UES or?

Are you saying for Point 3, 4 or both that you agree with Infinite Attack Speed via throwing (Infinite LS)?

 

[Mbpoops]

Anything regarding Black Hole right now is pseudo-science cause we are currently know jack shit about it nature. Also travelling out of black hole require you to goes FTL not infinite speed, but according to general relativity if you goes FTL then you will travel backward in time. So depend on verses escaping a black hole via speed is either FTL or Immeasurable speed.

btw it is still wiki standards that escaping a black hole’s SINGULARITY requires infinite speed. Your argument here is about escaping the event horizon which yea is Ftl but per wiki standards escaping the singularity requires infinite speed. Doesnt matter if we dont know everything IRL, theres a lot of stuff on the wiki we dont know a lot about like higher dimensions yet we still use thise for tiering, and again, its in the standards snd would require a staff crt to change so until then it works.