Castlevania Discussion Thread: Simon's Quest

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

And those other 600 years don't count because??? Also Trevor being the first doesn't mean he's the only one who can. John, Eric, Jonathan, Charlotte and Shanoa are proof of that.

Eric and Charlotte were allied with members of the Morris clan who wielded the Vampire Killer, and Shanoa used Dominus, which was Dracula's own power.

They're literally not, the fact you say that despite the other games that do not have a belmont in it that have killed Dracula in the past shows you're not paying attention to the story. Also only the Belmonts, are we forgetting Maria is stated before to have powers that rival that of a Belmont and we have confirmation she fought and defeated Dracula alongside Richter? The fact that's stated numerous times in the series shoots your argument in the foot.

Maria fought alongside Richter—yes, a Belmont wielding the Vampire Killer.

Richter's statements of Dracula rising has been proven wrong like numerous times dude, the anniversary collection literally states that the legend of Dracula rising every century is not accurate at all so idk why you're banking on Richter's statement of Dracula rising every century being real when the series itself disproves that, and it's only a legend and nothing more.

You missed my point. If Dracula had actually resurrected multiple times in less than a century, that would mean every Belmont generation had the chance to defeat him repeatedly within their own lifetime.
Richter’s statements and objectives in SotN make no sense if that’s the case, and that’s not the only problem with this "720+ resurrections" nonsense:

- If any Belmont or Morris had defeated Dracula more than once in their lifetime, it would have been mentioned by now.

- If plenty of other people (vampire hunters, sorcerers, or whatever) defeated Dracula multiple times while the Belmonts/Morris only did it once per generation, it implies the latter aren't nearly as important or special as we think. It undermines the significance of the Belmonts and the Vampire Killer from a narrative standpoint. Whether the Belmonts and the Vampire Killer are involved or not makes no difference, since a bunch of random, unnamed people could just go and beat Dracula 720+ times.

If literally no one here sees the problem with that, it would be worrying.

That still counts as a kill. She killed Dracula in her game, same with Hector, so again the Belmonts being the only ones to fight and beat Dracula are just not true, especially when Grant and Sypha are not relatives to the Belmonts at the time and Trevor acknowledges he had help from them and Alucard to defeat them.

Grant and Sypha fought alongside a Belmont wielding the Vampire Killer and with Dracula's own son. Shanoa possessed Dracula's own power. Hector defeated a weakened Dracula—who was likely no stronger than Death (and thus didn't even add a layer).

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Besides, the legend of Dracula's resurrection every 100 years isn't wrong at all. In Grimoire of Souls (the latest canonical game prior to the release of Belmont Curse), it is reiterated several times that Dracula can resurrect by himself every 100 years due to human negative emotions; if we look at the dates of certain games, the 100-year rule is strictly adhered to:

• Belmont's Revenge (1591) - Castlevania (1691) = 100 years
• Simon's Quest (1698 A.D) - Harmony of Dissonance (1748 A.D) = 100 years

The other times occur when Dracula is resurrected by others. So, the 100-year rule holds true, except when others resurrect Dracula beforehand.

 

[Lgamer099_99]

Inoltre, la leggenda della resurrezione di Dracula ogni 100 anni non è affatto errata. In Grimoire of Souls (l'ultimo gioco canonico precedente all'uscita di Belmont Curse), viene ribadito più volte che Dracula può resuscitare da solo ogni 100 anni a causa delle emozioni negative umane; se guardiamo le date di alcuni giochi, la regola dei 100 anni viene rigorosamente rispettata:

• La vendetta di Belmont (1591) - Castlevania (1691) = 100 anni
• Simon's Quest (1698 d.C.) - Harmony of Dissonance (1748 d.C.) = 100 anni

Le altre volte ciò accade quando Dracula viene resuscitato da altri. Quindi, la regola dei 100 anni è valida, tranne quando altri resuscitano Dracula prima.

I agree, the every 100 years seem to be legit when you don't force his resurrection. Let's see if he's forced again in the new game. Thing is, I personally still wouldn't exclude the idea that those books contain other parallel timelines as well, but oh well. Thing is, even if we ignore the showed books it doesn't make much sense lore wise that the library has like what 15 books?