Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

[PedjaTarzan]

I can't imagine how Ronova could lose to the Tsaritsa, bro .

I think she'll just be a weekly boss (though even that isn't certain yet), in the same way Arlecchino became a weekly boss.

To be honest, the weekly boss or the main villain has almost never been shown in their region's teaser or trailer. For example, Rerir and Dottore in Nod-Krai, Gosoythoth in Natlan, and the Narwhal in Fontaine were all absent from their respective regional PV.

Instead, the trailers usually feature characters who play a major role in resolving the region's main conflict, such as Arlecchino, Capitano, and Columbina—even though they were once rumored to be the main villains of their respective regions.
Because of that, it's possible that Ronova isn't the main villain. There could be another entity that simply hasn't been revealed yet. And even if the Tsaritsa eventually meets Ronova, there's no guarantee that their encounter will lead to a battle. It could just as easily be a negotiation, cooperation, or something else entirely that we don't know about yet.

As for Piero, I think there's actually a pretty good chance he'll be the main villain. Interestingly, he wasn't shown in the Snezhnaya trailer either.

Cryo PRESERVATION will mog

 

[Furina003]

Cryo PRESERVATION will mog

Bro, trust me, they'll both be fine
The Traveler will side against the Tsaritsa and make her realize that the Stuzha Project isn't the solution .

 

[OmniScalator]

I don't know how they are gonna execute That Ronova scene, but let's wait and see, many such leaks have been wrong till now

And on the contrary Ronova literally can not die anyway because shades themselves surpass rules, which means they are true immortals in genshin

 

[Mbpoops]

Where im from if we didnt keep moving we’d freeze to death. Literally.

 

[Puppet43]

Shown absolutely nowhere.

U see, he cant die
Thats already defying Ronova's rules

A character can possess immortality and still be vulnerable to conceptual or supernatural death

Rerir has immo type 5

Skirk knows atleast about Asmoday power since she witness the traveler and traveler knows both Asmoday and Ronova and she still claimed Surta power is incomprehensible compared to them lol

There has been no official conv between the 2 about Unknown God
And i think Traveler doesnt know she is a Shade
But even if they had said conv, Shade is just a mere projection of Phanes; think of urself and ur shadow (Hence why the name Shades)

Phanes the Shades did it better than all those Dragons did.

So if i copy your test, i am better than u?

Also, the blueprints your talking about is only about the creation of the false sky.

Nah

• The concept of elements
• The 4 shackles of the world
• the fake sky
• fate system

Everything donne by Dragons

I'd say cap. During the opening cutscene, the Traveler states that they were stripped of their power after the encounter. This means that the version who fought Asmoday was operating with their original abilities and strength, the closest thing we have to the Traveler's prime state.

Prime Traveler as been stated as equal as Traveler gaining 7 elements
We had went trought more than just 7 Elements (Skirk Training, Calamity of Eshu, Primordial Elements, Adeptus Powers, Knowledge Amps and Columbina's lifting) once we get to Snezhnaya i would said we would be stronger than when we enter in Teyvat

Said by someone who doesn't know the nature of the Abyss.

Cant even delete the 5 Sinners btw nor King Irmin
If what u said was true, it would be Memory Manipulation, not Existance Erasure

 

[Mbpoops]

Why is the first girl larping columbina

 

[MSahla]

U see, he cant die
Thats already defying Ronova's rules

That's not how it works. It has been stated that even an immortal gods will eventually die. Ofc, talking about an earthly gods like the Archons and other deities.

Rerir has immo type 5

From where?

So if i copy your test, i am better than u?

Judge the result.

Nah

• The concept of elements
• The 4 shackles of the world
• the fake sky
• fate system

Everything donne by Dragons

1. Elements were not born from the Dragons (especially the primordial form)
2. "4 shackles of the world" Buddy you don't know anything about this at all. Nibelung's rules were never shackles anyone. Fourfold shackles was alwaya referred to the Shades, not anything from the Dragons.
3. That's the only right thing. They've made a plan to make one yet failed. At best they can cover the entire planet.
4. The fck? No? Fate System weren't exist before Phanes, lmao. Did you even know why those Dragons weren't bound by constellations?

Prime Traveler as been stated as equal as Traveler gaining 7 elements
We had went trought more than just 7 Elements (Skirk Training, Calamity of Eshu, Primordial Elements, Adeptus Powers, Knowledge Amps and Columbina's lifting) once we get to Snezhnaya i would said we would be stronger than when we enter in Teyvat

So, where the statement Prime Traveler = 7 elements traveler like you said? Those things you mentioned doesn't say anything.

Cant even delete the 5 Sinners btw nor King Irmin

Wtf that gotta do with those mf?

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Okay i found the scan.
Wild hunt = Rerir body btw.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

@Puppet43 Where does fake moon scale to.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Okay i found the scan.
Wild hunt = Rerir body btw.

And yes, Ronova is def not killing Rerir lol.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Now to mention it. Abyssal energies are even present inside the moon reflection.

 

[Puppet43]

GUYS NEXT DEATH BATTLE IS TRAVELER, WE NEED TO COOK

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

So Tsarista should have trilunar power, 6 gnosis amp and Rhine amp. IS Tsarista really gonna lose?

 

[Puppet43]

@Puppet43 Where does fake moon scale to.

Which moon

From where?

Surviving Moon Gate

Elements were not born from the Dragons (especially the primordial form)

They litterally created them as stated by TLOTN

Buddy you don't know anything about this at all. Nibelung's rules were never shackles anyone.

Alice seem to differ

Did you even know why those Dragons weren't bound by constellations?

Constellation aint the same as System

where the statement Prime Traveler = 7 elements traveler like you said?

Traveler thinking post Tartaglia fight that each element adds to the restoration of their former power

Wtf that gotta do with those mf?

U said she had existence erasure for memory manipulation feat

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Which moon

the moon b4 the frost moon entered the false sky.

U said she had existence erasure for memory manipulation feat

The fact that Dain also said that the sinners are capable of defending khaenriah and able to stop the cataclysm

 

[Puppet43]

the moon b4 the frost moon entered the false sky.

we just guess its irl moon size

The fact that Dain also said that the sinners are capable of defending khaenriah and able to stop the cataclysm

they were the cataclysm

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

we just guess its irl moon size

Lol cuz Rerir phantom was able to cover the entire moon with its handa

 

[Furina003]

In the upcoming Wednesday patch, we might see how the three Moon Sisters and Apep are rendered powerless against Istaroth's authority (Erosion).

 

[MSahla]

Surviving Moon Gate

?? How is that immo type 5?
And bro's only survive after he absorbed the kuuvahki. He was dead the first time he entered it.

They litterally created them as stated by TLOTN

Where did Lord of the Night says the Dragons created the primordial elements like Phlogiston, Primordial Sea and other light realm energy?

Alice seem to differ

??

Constellation aint the same as System

Yes it is? The concept of fate in Genshin is always about every living beings bounds to the stars. Hell, even the HSR using the same concept.

Traveler thinking post Tartaglia fight that each element adds to the restoration of their former power

I mean, even until now Traveler still didn't reached the level of his original power, nor do they get their former power yet now.

U said she had existence erasure for memory manipulation feat

I said what if.

 

[Puppet43]

Lol cuz Rerir phantom was able to cover the entire moon with its handa

We already talk about this

 

[RemaxG1]

So im waiting for mods to check calcs and 6.7 to verify the moon size and mass (cause apparently, the moon has hollow zones and half moon made of some kind of metal, therefore OG calcs needs to be remake with this in mind)
Otherwise i think we already have the chainscale, prepare for Low 5B Archons

Ok got it

 

[Puppet43]

?? How is that immo type 5?

The Shadow...
There no Kuuvhaki, its him surviving thanks to Abyss power, sure he might be weaker and not have a physical body, but still its immo type 5

The concept of fate in Genshin is always about every living beings bounds to the stars.

Sure, give me the const of Elynas or even a Lizard

I mean, even until now Traveler still didn't reached the level of his original power, nor do they get their former power yet now.

I never said current, i say Teyat as in post Snezhnaya

Where did Lord of the Night says the Dragons created the primordial elements like Phlogiston, Primordial Sea and other light realm energy?

Here

 

[Puppet43]

 

[Furina003]

I don't know how they are gonna execute That Ronova scene, but let's wait and see, many such leaks have been wrong till now

And on the contrary Ronova literally can not die anyway because shades themselves surpass rules, which means they are true immortals in genshin

We just have to wait. We've seen plenty of leaks like this before that ended up being false. Like claimed Columbina would appear in Natlan, Capitano and Xbalanque would become playable, Childe is rumored to die almost every year, and even Nahida was once rumored to die. Yet, how many of those rumors actually came true?

Patch 7.3 is still a long way off and will most likely be released next year. If leaks like this are already appearing now, I honestly don't know how reliable their sources are. One thing is certain: as long as development is ongoing, the story and content can still change.

Besides, the trailer itself doesn't contain any dialogue or scenes that suggest the other Shades will betray Ronova. I also don't see any indication of a fight. All we see is Ronova and the Tsaritsa staring at each other, and no one knows what happens after that.

That's why I'd rather wait for official information or stronger evidence before jumping to conclusions.

And Phanes might be waking up very soon.

 

[MSahla]

The Shadow...
There no Kuuvhaki, its him surviving thanks to Abyss power, sure he might be weaker and not have a physical body, but still its immo type 5

Are we skipping the part where Bina and Rerir had a conversation?

Sure, give me the const of Elynas or even a Lizard

??

I never said current, i say Teyat as in post Snezhnaya

Buddy, we're not even there. Don't just jump the conclusion.

Here

That doesn't say anything like you said? That's literally talking about how Phanes created the modern form of elemental energy.

Nah

• The concept of elements
• The 4 shackles of the world
• the fake sky
• fate system

Everything donne by Dragons

 

[Furina003]

Or maybe the weekly boss is just a puppet created by Ronova, containing only 0.01% of her power

 

[Natsuki012]

Aang VS Traveler is coming

 

[RemaxG1]

This is Genshin's trickery at play here again. I mean take a look at Ororon, his design screams Asmoday but you know how it turned out lol. I'm probably sure this Noy guy is a Fae and an old one at that. Perhaps as old as the First Cryo Archon.

 

[MSahla]

I mean take a look at Ororon, his design screams Asmoday but you know how it turned out lol.

I've never heard of anyone thinking Ororon's design screams Asmoday. Like where? How?

 

[Puppet43]

Are we skipping the part where Bina and Rerir had a conversation?

Did u miss the part where i said "Might have no physical body but he still survive"?

That doesn't say anything like you said? That's literally talking about how Phanes created the modern form of elemental energy.

BASED ON THE ENERGIES MADE PREVIOUSLY TO THEIR ARRIVAL
GUESS WHO WAS BEFORE PHANES

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

This is Genshin's trickery at play here again. I mean take a look at Ororon, his design screams Asmoday but you know how it turned out lol. I'm probably sure this Noy guy is a Fae and an old one at that. Perhaps as old as the First Cryo Archon.

Lol i did have seen some theories how his eye design is connected to a god but not of ronova tho lol

 

[Puppet43]

Btw guys, i need help to get my crt reviewed by mods just to post the Low 5B Archons and for Aang to be a more unfair fight

 

[MSahla]

Did u miss the part where i said "Might have no physical body but he still survive"?

What are you even talking about at this point? You are trying to say Rerir has immo type 5 by the fact that he survived the Moon's Reflection, while he survived only because of the Kuuvahki he has absorbed in Nod-Krai, that's why he's dead the first time he entered the realm which is where he trying to get Tholindis back and jump into the moon gate.

BASED ON THE ENERGIES MADE PREVIOUSLY TO THEIR ARRIVAL
GUESS WHO WAS BEFORE PHANES

???
We're talking about you claiming Dragons created everything and Phanes is just copying them, including elements, where it was stated that the Dragons created the Light Realm energies like Primordial Sea or Phlogiston?

 

[Natsuki012]

aang vs traveler gonna look like this

 

[Puppet43]

You are trying to say Rerir has immo type 5 by the fact that he survived the Moon's Reflection, while he survived only because of the Kuuvahki he has absorbed in Nod-Krai

The Shadow...

he's dead the first time he entered the realm which is where he trying to get Tholindis back and jump into the moon gate.

If straight up tells u "Even if my body was turn into shreds i survive"

5: Deathless Immortality: Characters who exist unbound by conventional life or death, or do not exist at all, and thus cannot be traditionally killed. Typically, abilities such as Existence Erasure are needed to destroy them.

We're talking about you claiming Dragons created everything and Phanes is just copying them, including elements, where it was stated that the Dragons created the Light Realm energies like Primordial Sea or Phlogiston?

Apparently u arent unable to connects 2 dots

• Phanes created Elements based on previous Primordial Elements like Kuuvhaki, Primordial Sea and Phlogiston
• TLOTN says the primordial elements were created before phanes arrival
• I wonder who was in teyvat before phanes arrival mmmmm, oh yeah DRAGONS

 

[MSahla]

Rerir has immo type 5

From where?

Surviving Moon Gate

"I never said that" Huh?

If straight up tells u "Even if my body was turn into shreds i survive"

That's not Type 5 Immortality but Regeneration

Apparently u arent unable to connects 2 dots

• Phanes created Elements based on previous Primordial Elements like Kuuvhaki, Primordial Sea and Phlogiston
• TLOTN says the primordial elements were created before phanes arrival
• I wonder who was in teyvat before phanes arrival mmmmm, oh yeah DRAGONS

1. Phanes created modern form of elemental energy is from Phlogiston only
2. Lord of the Night never said "Primordial Elements were created before Phanes arrival." If you're talking about Nibelung, yeah, he did created the Moons so technically he also created lunar energy. As for the Sovereigns, it was never stated that they created their respective primordial elements (e.g Xiuhcoatl x Phlogiston / Hydro Dragon x Primordial Sea).
3. You think Dragons who ruled over Primordial Elements, such as Xiuhcoatl with Phlogiston means Xiuhcoatl created Phlogiston itself? Yeah nah, while his brother Kukulkan straight up telling you Xiuhcoatl was born from Phlogiston in the heart of the Sacred Mountain. That means Phlogiston predates Xiuhcoatl. And it could also be happening to the other Sovereigns to their respective primordial elements.

 

[AsterReal]

I don't think there's any point in trying to argue with Sahl about the game's lore. He's just like Istaroth—he remembers everything.

 

[AsterReal]

It's beautiful.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

"I never said that" Huh?


That's not Type 5 Immortality but Regeneration

He can regenerate because he have type 5 immortality. He is literally not alive in a traditional sense and isn't dead lol

His immortality is literally greater than the curse of immortality whom have type 5 immortality.

 

[AsterReal]

He can regenerate because he have type 5 immortality. He is literally not alive in a traditional sense and isn't dead lol

His immortality is literally greater than the curse of immortality whom have type 5 immortality.

That's not Type 5 Immortality. A character whose body is destroyed and then regenerates does not gain that type of Immortality.