Shadow Slave: Rank Physiology Page CRT (Accepted!!)

[S33rz]

1. Rank Physiology

• Rank physiology sandbox

This CRT intends to establish base abilities that having the physiology of a rank will provide, certain additional physiologies might still apply for some characters, and certain will lack some of the abilities. Such as lacking the Nightmare spell, and should be added in the character profiles.

It should apply to all current characters , with Sunless having everything till the Supreme rank and Weaver having all of it in addition to concept type 2 and Type 1

It also tries to explain the relationship between, The Flame, Spirit, Will and goes further indepth into justifying Names which have been accepted as Type 2 Information here.

2. Layers

The physiology page includes the baseline layers for ranks wthout the addition of bypassing layers within ranks, as such the gap between certain ranks is more than one layer. Additional layers and justification will be indicated on the character profiles.


Votes: @Seraphor12, @Jaynic1, @WorthyRhinoceros951, @NITROMonkey1000, @Verezen, @ActuallySpaceMan42 (Staff), @Celestial_Pegasus (Staff).

 

[Seraphor12]

I agree

 

[Jaynic1]

I dont think ascended and fallen should get full invulnerability but rather a limited one. Since they can still be harmed by mundane weapons, its just way harder to do. But I agree with everything else.

 

[WorthyRhinoceros951]

I dont think ascended and fallen should get full invulnerability but rather a limited one. Since they can still be harmed by mundane weapons, its just way harder to do. But I agree with everything else.

I think so too. How is regeneration negation mid godly? Agree with everything else

 

[S33rz]

I dont think ascended and fallen should get full invulnerability but rather a limited one. Since they can still be harmed by mundane weapons, its just way harder to do. But I agree with everything else.

This only applies when it is used by someone with Will, I don't think it's enough to make it limited. Sunless actually mentions it being needed to hurt Fallen and higher, so it has to apply to Fallen per the book itself.
If so, then even Supreme would have "limited" cause Will cannot be used effectively into something like a gun or bullet.

I think so too. How is regeneration negation mid godly? Agree with everything else

Will makes things harder to heal from and all Will attacks are spirit attacks attacking the spirit. Thus Mid godly cause it can kill you even if you can regen from the destruction of Mind, Body and Soul (Mid godly).

 

[NITROMonkey1000]

Agreed

 

[Verezen]

1. Rank Physiology

• Rank physiology sandbox

This CRT intends to establish base abilities that having the physiology of a rank will provide, certain additional physiologies might still apply for some characters, and certain will lack some of the abilities. Such as lacking the Nightmare spell, and should be added in the character profiles.

It should apply to all current characters , with Sunless having everything till the Supreme rank and Weaver having all of it in addition to concept type 2 and Type 1

It also tries to explain the relationship between, The Flame, Spirit, Will and goes further indepth into justifying Names which have been accepted as Type 2 Information here.

2. Layers

The physiology page includes the baseline layers for ranks wthout the addition of bypassing layers within ranks, as such the gap between certain ranks is more than one layer. Additional layers and justification will be indicated on the character profiles.


Votes:

I see no issues with it, agree

 

[WorthyRhinoceros951]

can somebody tag some mods. this will take an eternity otherwise

 

[God_of_perversion]

I dont think ascended and fallen should get full invulnerability but rather a limited one. Since they can still be harmed by mundane weapons, its just way harder to do. But I agree with everything else.

Hold up if they can still be damaged then it's not invul but damage decreasing

 

[Seraphor12]

can somebody tag some mods. this will take an eternity otherwise

Nope we cannot, only staff can tag mods. We can just pray and hope that someday someone would see this thread(ask in msg walls)

 

[WorthyRhinoceros951]

Nope we cannot, only staff can tag mods. We can just pray and hope that someday someone would see this thread(ask in msg walls)

WHO MAINLY CHECKS SS threads

 

[S33rz]

Hold up if they can still be damaged then it's not invul but damage decreasing

As I've mentioned before they are harmed by others with Will and it is mentioned that you need Will to damage them from this stage on. It also cannot be damage reduction because a gun or nuke would deal no damage in comparison to a random slash that has Will. As long as it doesn't have any Will it won't really do anything.

 

[WorthyRhinoceros951]

idk about that . A star collapsing on sunny would do nothing to him?

 

[Seraphor12]

As I've mentioned before they are harmed by others with Will and it is mentioned that you need Will to damage them from this stage on. It also cannot be damage reduction because a gun or nuke would deal no damage in comparison to a random slash that has Will. As long as it doesn't have any Will it won't really do anything.

btw what explanation would you give for this, it's when sunny was fighting fiend iirc in Antarctica, the strongest ncs there were of corrupted rank and only they survived that explosion unscathed. Fallen ncs were harmed by it. And that explosion don't have any will.

 

[S33rz]

btw what explanation would you give for this, it's when sunny was fighting fiend iirc in Antarctica, the strongest ncs there were of corrupted rank and only they survived that explosion unscathed. Fallen ncs were harmed by it. And that explosion don't have any will.

It doesn't say only corrupted survived it tho, it says the strongest.
Remember how a Fallen devil can be stronger than a corrupted beast? Weakest in the scan should refer to dormants, and getting injured applies to awakened, but from Fallen it goes from being severely injured to not even being affected at all.

Edit:
In fact even in new chapters they go out of their way to tell you that no Will means you cannot do anything to someone above awakened rank.

Shadow Slave chapter 3020

He shook his head with a wistful sigh.

“The asuras were originally created by the Ash Nomads — those few who traveled the Sea of Ash, hiding from the White Abyss in its depths. Eventually, all their tribes and clans were wiped out, and the scattered survivors found shelter in Mictlan. My mother was of the Ash, so I inherited some knowledge from her... enough to understand the crude art of building the asuras, at least, and develop an ambition to improve upon their design."

Sunny listened to his words with interest, wondering if the asuras could really be replicated. The ones he had fought were as powerful as Great abominations, but that was because they had spent thousands of years being consumed by Corruption. The original asuras could not have been that powerful.

But even if they allowed Awakened to wield the power of Masters — or allow mundane people to wield the power of Awakened — that alone would be an inconceivable boon. Inti sighed.

"The original asuras helped the Ash Nomads survive in the Sea of Ash... they were golems that granted them power well beyond what they were supposed to possess. However, golems do not possess a soul, and they cannot wield the Will — unlike all living things. So, how could a soulless golem help someone fight against the Corrupted?"

Hidden in the shadows, Sunny nodded mentally.

Humans possessed similar technologies, as well — the MWPs, the powered suits of armor the military used. However, these war machines lost their effectiveness when facing Nightmare Creatures above the Awakened Rank.

Inti shook his head somberly.

Note: "The Corrupted" here refers to those who have been corrupted, not creatures of the "Corrupted" rank.

 

[Seraphor12]

Bump

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

The page is missing a lot of references, so when the OP gets the chance, that needs to be fixed.

• Magic [Artifacts] & Summoning (All dreamers share a connection to the nightmare spell, allowing them to receive Memories and Echoes.)
• Limited Information Analysis (Carriers of the nightmare spell can look at their own runes. Only humans have a connection to the spell.)

These need scans.

Resistance to Law and Physics Manipulation (As a transcendent being Sunny's existence pushes back on the mystical laws of the world and the laws of physics.)

Wrong scan

Possibly Limited Reality Warping (Saints can learn how to wield the will.])

Missing scans.

The abilities themselves seem fine.

 

[S33rz]

The page is missing a lot of references, so when the OP gets the chance, that needs to be fixed.

These need scans.

Wrong scan

Missing scans.

The abilities themselves seem fine.

I have apllied the changes and added the scans, is there anything else that needs addressing?

Or can i add you as agree?

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Why is this Possibly Reality Warping?

Possibly Limited Reality Warping (Saints can learn how to wield the will.)

This scan does not work.

Will in Shadow Slave is an abstract type of power manifested from the "spirit" which is the very essence of one's existence.

Still missing scans.

Limited Information Analysis (Carriers of the nightmare spell can look at their own runes. Only humans have a connection to the spell.)

You can add me to agree once you add all the proper references.

 

[S33rz]

Why is this Possibly Reality Warping?

Because not all Saint's have the ability to use it, so it should be mentioned which one's do in their profiles, and even if they do it's effects aren't as profound as that of a Sovereign.

Similarly, some Dormant have True Name like Saints so they should also have the abilities that come with it.

You can add me to agree once you add all the proper references.

No problem then, these should be fixed as well. Sorry about that.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Because not all Saint's have the ability to use it, so it should be mentioned which one's do in their profiles, and even if they do it's effects aren't as profound as that of a Sovereign.

Similarly, some Dormant have True Name like Saints so they should also have the abilities that come with it.

I see.

The link was applied incorrectly, by the way.

Limited Information Analysis ([ Carriers of the nightmare spell can look at their own runes. Only humans have a connection to the spell.)

 

[S33rz]

I see.

The link was applied incorrectly, by the way.

It's fixed now.

 

[Seraphor12]

Bump

 

[Verezen]

have y'all spammed this on message walls yet

 

[S33rz]

have y'all spammed this on message walls yet

I have at the very least, hopefully it doesn't take too long.

 

[S33rz]

Bumper stickers

 

[S33rz]

Humpty Bumpty

 

[S33rz]

return of the Bump

 

[S33rz]

Bumper cars

 

[RaikiKurohane99]

Seems fine to me. Although some things:
1. It's better to not use . if there's a closing braces right next to it.

Some other minor grammar or formatting errors:

Magic [Artifacts] & Summoning (dreamers share a connection to the nightmare spell, allowing them to receive Memories and Echoes.)

Dreamers* (Capitalized)

Superhuman Physical Characteristics & Enhanced Senses (When close to full saturation of his core, Sunny's made Sunny go well beyond the physical limitations of normal humans. When he first became a Dreamer, the same energy that made him stronger, faster, and healthier also reached his eyes, meaning his eyesight must have also gotten better.)

This can be worded better, such as "When close to full saturation, Sunny's core made sunny go..."

Regeneration (Low; Their wounds heal faster.)

"Low" should be bolded.

Limited Dimensional Travel (When an awakened falls asleep, their spirit body is transported to the Dream Realm.Abilities relating to travel between the realms are usually exclusive to human characters.)

*"Realm. Abilities" (Missing space).

Resistance to Mind Manipulation, Memory Manipulation, Fear Manipulation Perception Manipulation and Madness Manipulation (Mind attacks consist of a large range of abilities, and Awakened level resistances can resist mind attacks.)

Wrong boldings. Should be:

Resistance to Mind Manipulation, Memory Manipulation, Fear Manipulation, Perception Manipulation and Madness Manipulation (Mind attacks consist of a large range of abilities, and Awakened level resistances can resist mind attacks.)

Resistance to Soul Manipulation (1 layer; Awakened should have superior resistance to Dreamer's who can survive soul destruction that instantly kills Nightmare creatures and Nephis who has a greater resistance than them when using a Dormant memory.[10])

"1 Layer" should be bolded.

Likely Weapon Mastery (Ascended are the best of the best of humanity, meaning they are likely to be skilled in wielding their weapons of choice.Nightmare creatures are often mindless so they don't get this.)

"choice. Nightmare" (Missing space)

Resistance to Aura (Overwhelming & fear-inducing; Was able to resist being killed by an echo of the Daemon of Destiny's terrifying & harrowing killing intent that would've otherwise killed another person.)

"Overwhelming & Fear-Inducing" should be bolded.

Resistance to Mind Manipulation, Memory Manipulation, Fear Manipulation Perception Manipulation and Madness Manipulation (1 Layer; Ascended are capable of resisting Kai's calls, which can bypass the resistance of Awakened.)

Wrong boldings. Same as before.

Resistance' to Extreme Cold (Ascended can survive being in winter beast's snowstorm which is cold enough to freeze fire and molten lava.)

Incorrect formatting. Change it to:

Resistance to Extreme Cold (Ascended can survive being in winter beast's snowstorm which is cold enough to freeze fire and molten lava.)

Resistance to Existence Erasure (Information [Type 2], Conceptual [Type 3] and Law) (The potency of one's soul is directly equated to their resistance to both having their soul destroyed and being erased. So, logically, the potency of the two should scale to each other. In addition, it seems to affect both the body, mind and soul as well as Will, which is an expression of Spirit.)

Types should be bolded as well.

There are other errors that are the same or fall under the same category.

 

[S33rz]

Seems fine to me.

I take it i can add ur vote then.

There are other errors that are the same or fall under the same category.

I've fixed some of them.

 

[Seraphor12]

Bump

 

[S33rz]

Bump

 

[S33rz]

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[S33rz]

Speed Bump.

 

[S33rz]

Bump

 

[Seraphor12]

Bump

Probably ask DDM, maybe he can help otherwise this seems to go forever

 

[S33rz]

Bump.

 

[S33rz]

Bump

 

[S33rz]

Bump