Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

[Le'garde273]

Show me where it states bely tsar is the strongest?

How's your logic even work at this rate

"Having alliance between two that's lead by monomakh which no other important and relevant character ever mention in their alliance, that at the point even ajax himself would follow his order even monomakh tell him to go down to the abyss, despite all that making monomakh was not the strongest on his own alliance when it's literally mention ajax was the second strongest in their own alliance?"

Okay mister assumption logic

But do they exist in the same leaf yes or no? Show me where genshin ever mentioned honkai star rail.

Hmmm...

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

How's your logic even work at this rate

Following order means you're weaker now and is Bely tsar alliance reduced to two people now?

"Having alliance between two that's lead by monomakh which no other important and relevant character ever mention in their alliance, that at the point even ajax himself would follow his order even monomakh tell him to go down to the abyss, despite all that making monomakh was not the strongest on his own alliance when it's literally mention ajax was the second strongest in their own alliance?"

Hmmm...

That is hi3 which is confirmed to exist in the same galaxy as Genshin. I asked for HONKAI STARRAIL not HI3 because HSR setting doesn't even take inside a leaf but the entire IMT

 

[Le'garde273]

I am give up dude, i can't follow mister logic anymore

Mf thought descender have to be physically stronger than anyone else despite having a living and walking proof the mc that even got negative diff by a shade in their prime despite having descender status

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Yeah, run away sophist lmao.

descender stated to be stronger than the gods according to genshin canon.
mentioning asmoday as if she isn't stronger than archons and is an extension of a stronger descender. What is this bozo point even? LMAO
NEG DIFFED BUT NEEDED TO USE HAX TO SEAL AND NERF TRAVELERLMAO

 

[MSahla]

descender stated to be stronger than the gods according to genshin canon.
mentioning asmoday as if she isn't stronger than archons and is an extension of a stronger descender.

The definition of a Descender given by Fatui and the lore surrounding them focuses on their will, existence outside the world's laws, and their status as beings not bound by Teyvat's fate system. There is no direct statement saying:

"All Descenders are stronger than all gods."

Being a Descender is fundamentally a matter of ontological status, not necessarily raw combat power.

Literally the Traveler is the biggest example of this. The Traveler's defeat by Asmoday directly contradicts the idea that being a Descender automatically grants superiority over gods. The Traveler is a Descender and was in their prime, yet Asmoday effortlessly overpowered them at the beginning of the story. If "Descender > all gods" were a hard rule, this scene could not happen.

What is this bozo point even? LMAO
NEG DIFFED BUT NEEDED TO USE HAX TO SEAL AND NERF TRAVELERLMAO

???
What is this Logic? Asmoday was already effortlessly overpowering and restraining the Traveler before sealing them. The seal was the conclusion of a one-sided fight, not a crutch used because she couldn't beat them normally.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

The definition of a Descender given by Fatui and the lore surrounding them focuses on their will, existence outside the world's laws, and their status as beings not bound by Teyvat's fate system. There is no direct statement saying:

Being a Descender is fundamentally a matter of ontological status, not necessarily raw combat power.

Literally the Traveler is the biggest example of this. The Traveler's defeat by Asmoday directly contradicts the idea that being a Descender automatically grants superiority over gods. The Traveler is a Descender and was in their prime, yet Asmoday effortlessly overpowered them at the beginning of the story. If "Descender > all gods" were a hard rule, this scene could not happen.

Perinheri does literally states that a descender have the capacity to transcend gods. An ontological transcendence implies being in a state being stronger than the one you transcend over. And why assume gods here refers to the shades rather than archons when yall never interpreted gods as shades on any vsbw profile.

 

[MSahla]

Perinheri does literally states that a descender have the capacity to transcend gods.

Yeah? Willpower wise.

An ontological transcendence implies being in a state being stronger than the one you transcend over.

Yet, that doesn't work with the Traveler, apparently?

And why assume gods here refers to the shades rather than archons when yall never interpreted gods as shades on any vsbw profile.

Depends on the context when they mentioned "gods." Such as this, this and this, all of them were talking about the Shades and Heavenly Principles.

 

[Puppet43]

She ain't no losing to an Archons buddy

But u know how actively gets stronger by each patch?
T-r-a-v-e-l-e-r

You guys act like you never playing others hoyo games (or maybe you actually don't) where's gods and eldricth horror entity would lose to teenager and friendship type shit

And the cast who fights said eldritch horror entities usually scale to said entity because they dont get one tap

Mavuika, with Ronova's powers, is much more powerful than any Archon.

Proven false 1 patch later btw

 

[Puppet43]

having a living and walking proof the mc that even got negative diff by a shade in their prime despite having descender status

Thecnically wasnt a descender back then

 

[Le'garde273]

Can i kms atp

 

[MSahla]

People just be saying shit rn.

 

[MSahla]

Sandrone has 3 Introduction cards

 

[AsterReal]

This person skipped the entire Fontaine Archon Mission.

 

[AsterReal]

What a surprise.

The Traveler is Teyvat's greatest teacher of social skills. The only thing left is for even Phanes to fall under his educational spell.