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Isekai at Peace Discussion Thread

Celestial_Pegasus said:
New Gaiden chapter confirms that the gap between viscount and count is bigger than the gap between peerage holder and ordinary demon, in fact Korne took 700 years to reach viscount, but another 1600 years to reach count.

So yea, 10-B (ordinary demon) to 7-B (baron) is a smaller gap than at least 7-B (viscount) to count.
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Btw what do you think of Names stabilising one's existence ? Seems meaningless right now but we could argue its CM Type 3

But since its from alice it should be Valid
 
Interesting, but not useful.

Unless somebody destroys a person's name, even then by this point authorities are the main thing so yea dont think it will become relevant
 
That is what I initially thought but it can lead to some interesting conclusion.

Similar to how Isis being an incarnation of Death lead to AE Type 2 eventually down the line so its fine to gloss over it for now but revisiting it could be useful

We know someone's existence is comprised of Memories, Soul, Mind, Body while names influence how your existence ultimately stabilises and can be changed seeing as Korne's axe had its will completely changed after being renamed and influenced by Korne's will

This reminds me.. Fate being overwritten by Shiro's magical energy is... kind of similar to this because her existence was being rewritten.
 
Btw Kaito's SI being so unpredictable thay it can change events is kind of crazy

Well... alice can predict nearly any possibility (almost 10^128 if you count her chess game) and even possibilities which are close to non existant.

And yet she viewed Isis and Kuro as lost causes and believed their fates were ultimately a Bad End with no chance of getting better... and yet kaito managed to change it in a short amount of time.

If we take Kaito's 2nd encounter with Isis's magic power of death then Kaito's willpower overcoming the embodiment of Death Manip which causes Fear on a existential level is kind of crazy since he is doing it without any blessing protecting him and was almost breaking down yet still refusing to wield

Willpower seems to be important but not talked about as much in universe but thats another topic.

Well... anyways this means Kaito changing events from nigh impossible to possible and baffling Alice who couldn't even predict this (despite predicting nigh impossible scenarios) is really incredibly insane
 
Yea we could significantly improve his social influencing, add the stuff about him raising flags + making illness fall in love at first sight + making Rosemary like him + the myltiversal fan club, and this recent stuff.

I am too busy to do that myself though.
 
I was asked to post this

An epilogue does not occur after the story.
An epilogue occurs after the necessity of the story.
The distinction is crucial.
A narrative can continue.
Its necessity cannot.
The moment a narrative reaches an epilogue, every causal process responsible for its existence has already completed itself. Every conflict has already been resolved. Every possibility has already been exhausted. Every character has already become exactly what they were always going to become.
The story has ceased generating itself.
What remains is merely the recognition of that fact.
This is where True Epilogue enters.
Unlike a conventional epilogue, which merely follows a narrative, True Epilogue follows the possibility of narrative itself.
The story is over.
The potential for stories is over.
The distinction between before and after is over.
The distinction between beginning and ending is over.
And most importantly:
The distinction between "existence" and "having existed" is over.
At this point, some of you may object.
"But isn't that just nonexistence?"
No.
Because nonexistence is still defined relative to existence.
True Epilogue arrives after that distinction has already lost meaning.
True Epilogue is what remains after even those descriptions become impossible.
And narrative identity is precisely what True Epilogue occurs after.
The result is that any attempt to quantify True Epilogue immediately collapses.
Dimensions fail.
Layers fail.
Outerversal structures fail.
Meta-narratives fail.
Author entities fail.
Readers fail.
Powerscalers fail.
The CRT moderator reading this fails.
The concept of acceptance and rejection becomes a subordinate manifestation of the Epilogue itself.
Therefore:
True Epilogue is not Tier 0 because it transcends Tier 0.
True Epilogue is Tier 0 because Tier 0 is merely the final surviving linguistic approximation available to entities that have not yet reached the Epilogue.
In conclusion:
The verse is Tier 0.
The readers are Tier 0.
The thread is Tier 0.
 
BoastJr said:
I was asked to post this

An epilogue does not occur after the story.
An epilogue occurs after the necessity of the story.
The distinction is crucial.
A narrative can continue.
Its necessity cannot.
The moment a narrative reaches an epilogue, every causal process responsible for its existence has already completed itself. Every conflict has already been resolved. Every possibility has already been exhausted. Every character has already become exactly what they were always going to become.
The story has ceased generating itself.
What remains is merely the recognition of that fact.
This is where True Epilogue enters.
Unlike a conventional epilogue, which merely follows a narrative, True Epilogue follows the possibility of narrative itself.
The story is over.
The potential for stories is over.
The distinction between before and after is over.
The distinction between beginning and ending is over.
And most importantly:
The distinction between "existence" and "having existed" is over.
At this point, some of you may object.
"But isn't that just nonexistence?"
No.
Because nonexistence is still defined relative to existence.
True Epilogue arrives after that distinction has already lost meaning.
True Epilogue is what remains after even those descriptions become impossible.
And narrative identity is precisely what True Epilogue occurs after.
The result is that any attempt to quantify True Epilogue immediately collapses.
Dimensions fail.
Layers fail.
Outerversal structures fail.
Meta-narratives fail.
Author entities fail.
Readers fail.
Powerscalers fail.
The CRT moderator reading this fails.
The concept of acceptance and rejection becomes a subordinate manifestation of the Epilogue itself.
Therefore:
True Epilogue is not Tier 0 because it transcends Tier 0.
True Epilogue is Tier 0 because Tier 0 is merely the final surviving linguistic approximation available to entities that have not yet reached the Epilogue.
In conclusion:
The verse is Tier 0.
The readers are Tier 0.
The thread is Tier 0.
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Agree, super blatant
 
BoastJr said:
I was asked to post this

An epilogue does not occur after the story.
An epilogue occurs after the necessity of the story.
The distinction is crucial.
A narrative can continue.
Its necessity cannot.
The moment a narrative reaches an epilogue, every causal process responsible for its existence has already completed itself. Every conflict has already been resolved. Every possibility has already been exhausted. Every character has already become exactly what they were always going to become.
The story has ceased generating itself.
What remains is merely the recognition of that fact.
This is where True Epilogue enters.
Unlike a conventional epilogue, which merely follows a narrative, True Epilogue follows the possibility of narrative itself.
The story is over.
The potential for stories is over.
The distinction between before and after is over.
The distinction between beginning and ending is over.
And most importantly:
The distinction between "existence" and "having existed" is over.
At this point, some of you may object.
"But isn't that just nonexistence?"
No.
Because nonexistence is still defined relative to existence.
True Epilogue arrives after that distinction has already lost meaning.
True Epilogue is what remains after even those descriptions become impossible.
And narrative identity is precisely what True Epilogue occurs after.
The result is that any attempt to quantify True Epilogue immediately collapses.
Dimensions fail.
Layers fail.
Outerversal structures fail.
Meta-narratives fail.
Author entities fail.
Readers fail.
Powerscalers fail.
The CRT moderator reading this fails.
The concept of acceptance and rejection becomes a subordinate manifestation of the Epilogue itself.
Therefore:
True Epilogue is not Tier 0 because it transcends Tier 0.
True Epilogue is Tier 0 because Tier 0 is merely the final surviving linguistic approximation available to entities that have not yet reached the Epilogue.
In conclusion:
The verse is Tier 0.
The readers are Tier 0.
The thread is Tier 0.
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looks good
 
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Average Epilogue statement in Yuusha
🥱

Anyways that is from ZZZ Gacha Game
 
so Kaito's luck is so immense the personification of fortune itself said that her luck is a drop of water compared to his luck which is like an ocean

as per usual
 
Noneless21 said:
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The God of Fortune Folded upon seeing Kaito's ridiculous luck to he is an Anomoly.

Keep in mind that illusions like the kraken who shouldn't even have a mind or soul felt like Kaito is a monster and wanted to give up when Kaito found a button to summon his entire Legion on command
 
I will prepare the scans don't worry

I don't think we had any matches that mattered other then Isis versus Acheron 🤔
 
Mr._East_Statement said:
Cool but can you open AWLBA pages as Bluey asked so he can apply Void Manipulation (I know it isn't the place to say it but it been almost 2 weeks and it is extremely funny) 🙏
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If you know this is an inappropriate place to ask this then don't do it in the first place, take it to the mod’s wall instead of here.
 
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Doesn't Canalis downgrade herself when she is in Trinia or maybe I am misremembering

But then again who knows how strong Kuro is post 100 years
 
i mean it's ******* food, how the **** can it even do damage to a higher dimensional god lmao

what's crazier is that Kaito has adaptation from the shit he ate, 6D adaptation confirmed
 
BoastJr said:
Doesn't Canalis downgrade herself when she is in Trinia or maybe I am misremembering

But then again who knows how strong Kuro is post 100 years
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Omnipotent and Omniscient Gods to indeed nerf themselves inTrinia, so they can fit in there, they would be 7-D.
Noneless21 said:
i mean it's ******* food, how the **** can it even do damage to a higher dimensional god lmao

what's crazier is that Kaito has adaptation from the shit he ate, 6D adaptation confirmed
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His mental strength already surpasses the realm of the gods supposedly, so this isn't too much of a leap.
 
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Celestial_Pegasus said:
His mental strength already surpasses the realm of the gods supposedly, so this isn't too much of a leap.
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no like, when he ate the baby castella that actually hurt a 7-D entity (Canalis), he fainted, but then after he ate it again, he was... mostly fine

blud was evolving to accommodate his wife's obsession, top tier husband fr
 
Celestial_Pegasus said:
Omnipotent and Omniscient Gods to indeed nerf themselves inTrinia, so they can fit in there, they would be 7-D.

His mental strength already surpasses the realm of the gods supposedly, so this isn't too much of a leap.
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Can we upscale Kaito's Mental Strength above Alice who has been alone for like a majority of 800 Million years (using some author statement of alice's suppose age being around that)

Kaito has so much upscale potential that its crazy
 
Noneless21 said:
no like, when he ate the baby castella that actually hurt a 7-D entity (Canalis), he fainted, but then after he ate it again, he was... mostly fine

blud was evolving to accommodate his wife's obsession, top tier husband fr
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I don't think Kaito is even normal because his feat of contemplating 100 years of loneliness without anyone being there whatsoever while he didn't lose heart or grow feeble or insane during that time..

He kept his heart on his sleeves and didn't falter whatsoever and acknowledged how Kuro, Isis or Alice who has suffered more years in the blink of an eye must have felt so he needs to atleast endure 100 years of that same suffering..

It stuck out to me because Kaito seems ordinary but subtle hints like this him seem crazy (Before afterystory or spinoff stuff embracing how Crazy he is...)
 
Seems like to me Isis' magic power of death scales from her ice magic. If so, that would grant it space, time, and void manipulation and it could kill space and time.
それほどまでに、彼女が生まれもった死の魔力は大きすぎる。だからこそ彼女は、普段死の魔力をそのまま行使するのではなく、氷の魔法へと変換して戦う。

That was how vast the magic power of death she was born with was. That is why she usually did not exercise her magic power of death as it was, but transformed it into ice magic to fight.
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Edit: Ayoooo, her range is the entire world!
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That random fate vs yhwach necro reminded me...shouldn't Alice have CM2, law and info in her first key along with the fate manip? Like she has a technique to defend against fate and can mimic fate
 
Alice's page may need a rework imo because she scales to tons of stuff inseries

I am pretty sure her Heart Tool can use Authority stuff if she can turn into Fate or Isis Remnant..

like she keeps getting upscaled if someone else does a feat wtf
 
Yeah she directly turns into fate, and she can counter fate. So the abilities should go to her there (which also would mean her ac 4 and whatever factors in infinite possibilities shenanigans..)

As for her NEP tho I'm not so sure about her embodying the prologue. Like I doubt she can use it. It does become weird bc she didn't use the nothingness, but kuro hadn't awakened the prologue yet
 
Prologue related stuff should be removed from Alice honestly, because Kuro hadn't yet awakened it, and also if the Prologue truly is before everything, then doesn't make sense Alice could copy it.

Or you could argue a weird thing where even Afterstories Kuro who hasn't yet fully mastered Prologue, still doesn't scale to its true extent in terms of physiology.
 
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