Devil May Cry Discussion Thread

[Huesito88]

 

[Random-Helper323]

A version with extra micro transactions and a predatory data collection policy you have to accept to play the game?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Can't talk about the data collection stuff since I've been pretty away from the last console gens but the micro transactions are just a dumb complain, like, they already tried that with the vanilla version remember? Devs laughed at that and made Faust

Unless there is something extra with the switch 2 I missed of course, but otherwise meh every single company already steals your data

 

[Random-Helper323]

Can't talk about the data collection stuff since I've been pretty away from the last console gens but the micro transactions are just a dumb complain, like, they already tried that with the vanilla version remember? Devs laughed at that and made Faust

Yes, they did well that time.

 

[Huesito88]

 

[BlackDarkness679]

For this direct just one game to me seemed like it was hype for people, cuz most are meh or ports

 

[WhydoIneedtosignupintwoplaces]

I think this means all DMC games are now on switch/Nintendo, right?

 

[Huesito88]

I think this means all DMC games are now on switch/Nintendo, right?

 

[Random-Helper323]

Well, 4 is important.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

 

[BlackDarkness679]

 

[Hecky2222]

Ts is gold bro

 

[SuperSonicTL]

Ts is gold bro

Stealing it

 

[BlackDarkness679]

 

[Hecky2222]

• Enhanced Non-Physical Interaction (Was capable of interacting with and eventually killing an alternate timeline Mundus whom has Nonexistent Physiology (Nature【Type 1】; Aspects 1, 2, 3 & 5【Other:〈Space-Time〉】and Beyond-Dimensional Existence (Type 1) (The Demon King has fused with the Heart and the Nexus of the Demon World and in turn became an empty void, a state superior of that of the Sargasso's own nonexistent nature and that should precede reality as the source of the Demon World. The Void is stated to exist outside of the flow of time and lack directions)

For some reason you guys didn't edit Dante's page and add to it 4th Aspect too

 

[BlackDarkness679]

For some reason you guys didn't edit Dante's page and add to it 4th Aspect too

If it was accepted, you can edit it in too and say you adding something accepted

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

• Enhanced Non-Physical Interaction (Was capable of interacting with and eventually killing an alternate timeline Mundus whom has Nonexistent Physiology (Nature【Type 1】; Aspects 1, 2, 3 & 5【Other:〈Space-Time〉】and Beyond-Dimensional Existence (Type 1) (The Demon King has fused with the Heart and the Nexus of the Demon World and in turn became an empty void, a state superior of that of the Sargasso's own nonexistent nature and that should precede reality as the source of the Demon World. The Void is stated to exist outside of the flow of time and lack directions)

For some reason you guys didn't edit Dante's page and add to it 4th Aspect too

I blame @SuperSonicTL

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

 

[SuperSonicTL]

I blame @SuperSonicTL

Don't care about Dante. He will always live as a Clive victim

 

[Hecky2222]

Don't care about Dante. He will always live as a Clive victim

I need to drop some NEP Information character vs Dante so Dante gets soloed by editing mistake

 

[SuperSonicTL]

I need to drop some NEP Information character vs Dante so Dante gets soloed by editing mistake

 

[Huesito88]

 

[Random-Helper323]

They already made their money. The fact they almost destroyed the franchise doesn't matter to them, although their reputation might not be so great after the way they behaved.

 

[SuperSonicTL]

They already made their money. The fact they almost destroyed the franchise doesn't matter to them, although their reputation might not be so great after the way they behaved.

Behave?

 

[Random-Helper323]

Behave?

He dismissed the original Dante as a gay cowboy, suggesting Dante wasn't cool because of how he saw him that way (I've seen some absolutely awesome gay characters and worked with some awesome gay people, so right away he's a fool), and then the game had that stupid scene with the wig. Attacking the audience is bad practice, and it's getting less popular nowadays.

 

[Marosuke]

He dismissed the original Dante as a gay cowboy, suggesting Dante wasn't cool because of how he saw him that way

Not like that. That was out of context. Alessandro, the art director made a joke that Capcom told them to make a western version of DMC. Then he showed the image. Just look at 01:45. The fanbase took that "they said Dante is a gay cowboy!". And that echo chamber spread like a disease.
Ninja Theory knew DMC and submitted a version similar to the original series.

But Capcom said no.

I already learned the history of the reboot years ago, and I'm not even mad about it.
But the fanbase has been criticizing how El Donte looks without knowing this. That was Capcom's decision.
I personally liked the reboot. Ninja Theory did a great job considering the harsh conditions Capcom gave them. And it's understandable that they felt annoyed when ignorant children accused them of doing what Capcom had asked them to do. That's how Capitalism works.

and then the game had that stupid scene with the wig.

I took it as the fanbase kept sending death threats and threats of violence, so they just gave them a middle finger in return. El Donte actually liked his new look, which was quite similar to the original series, as shown in Vergil's downfall.

I think Capcom needed a sacrifice like Ninja Theory because they were afraid to reboot the series themselves and chose to shift the responsibility. Because obviously, Capcom Japan is incompetent when it comes to narrative writing. Zeno in RE9 was the example. An asspull after a retcon, they never learned from Nero. They lack a consistent plan and a coherent story.
People who criticize the reboot’s story tend to lack reading comprehension and have zero knowledge of the occult but only care about Dante’s appearance. That's why they love Netflix Devil May Cry

 

[Random-Helper323]

Not like that. That was out of context. Alessandro, the art director made a joke that Capcom told them to make a western version of DMC. Then he showed the image. Just look at 01:45. The fanbase took that "they said Dante is a gay cowboy!". And that echo chamber spread like a disease.
Ninja Theory knew DMC and submitted a version similar to the original series.

But Capcom said no.

I already learned the history of the reboot years ago, and I'm not even mad about it.
But the fanbase has been criticizing how El Donte looks without knowing this. That was Capcom's decision.
I personally liked the reboot. Ninja Theory did a great job considering the harsh conditions Capcom gave them. And it's understandable that they felt annoyed when ignorant children accused them of doing what Capcom had asked them to do. That's how Capitalism works.

I took it as the fanbase kept sending death threats and threats of violence, so they just gave them a middle finger in return. El Donte actually liked his new look, which was quite similar to the original series, as shown in Vergil's downfall.

I think Capcom needed a sacrifice like Ninja Theory because they were afraid to reboot the series themselves and chose to shift the responsibility. Because obviously, Capcom Japan is incompetent when it comes to narrative writing. Zeno in RE9 was the example. An asspull after a retcon, they never learned from Nero. They lack a consistent plan and a coherent story.

I'm aware Capcom is responsible.

People who criticize the reboot’s story tend to lack reading comprehension and have zero knowledge of the occult but only care about Dante’s appearance.

That is a straw man made to discredit the people who prefer the original. It wasn't the hair colour as was repeatedly said, it was that people wanted the same characters back, not a reboot.

That's why they love Netflix Devil May Cry

Actually, many fans detest both. I actually think Netflix is worse than the reboot, for a few reasons. Firstly because it is reshaped around political stuff that has no place there. While the reboot did have some political stuff in there, it was only part of the picture, not all of it. Second, the reboot at least had a truly heroic figure in Donte. For all its flaws, if we treat it as its own thing Donte still was a capable heroic figure who fought for what was right and saved the day. He still looked impressive getting shot in the back while carrying Kat and not flinching, and he still beat lots of serious demons. Nante on the other hand is a clear attempt to deconstruct not only DMC, but the entire concept of heroism. That's why he's incompetent and you aren't supposed to respect him. The fact he's a dog working for Mary, an honestly awful person who kicks her "dog", only makes that more obvious. Attempts to deconstruct heroism always fail, because all they do is showcase what happens if no true hero is present, they don't deconstruct anything. By that system suffocating in space deconstructs oxygen.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

People who criticize the reboot’s story tend to lack reading comprehension and have zero knowledge of the occult but only care about Dante’s appearance. That's why they love Netflix Devil May Cry

I mostly agree with your comment except for this part. Many people who don't like DmC also don't like Netflix DMC; some even prefer DmC to Netflix DMC.

 

[Random-Helper323]

I mostly agree with your comment except for this part. Many people who don't like DmC also don't like Netflix DMC; some even prefer DmC to Netflix DMC.

I actually have way more respect for the reboot than Netflix's adaptation.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

I actually have way more respect for the reboot than Netflix's adaptation.

I paid for and played the reboot and didn't even bother watching the Netflix show.

 

[Random-Helper323]

I paid for and played the reboot and didn't even bother watching the Netflix show.

As much as I don't think the reboot is a true DMC title... I must say you made the right choice between them. Donte is honestly still a hero worth some regard. Nante... not so much. Kat is also okay, whereas Mary...

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

As much as I don't think the reboot is a true DMC title...

Yeah, DmC has more of an Infamous/Prototype vibe than DMC imo.

 

[Random-Helper323]

Yeah, DmC has more of an Infamous/Prototype vibe than DMC imo.

Like Game or Thrones compared to Lord of the Rings, or Blade Runner compared to Star Trek.

 

[Hecky2222]

Stop slandering DmC chat

I prefer it over dmc2

 

[Random-Helper323]

Stop slandering DmC chat

I prefer it over dmc2

DMC2 introduced the dodge mechanic, some nice enemy designs and lore about the world, and one of the best female characters, Lucia.

 

[Hecky2222]

DMC2 introduced the dodge mechanic, some nice enemy designs and lore about the world, and one of the best female characters, Lucia.

Yeah but unironically you can beat whole game with js gun spam without dodging

@Tony_di_bugalu would say it is js Ebony and Ivory too OP

I would say it is lazy gameplay

 

[Random-Helper323]

Yeah but unironically you can beat whole game with js gun spam without dodging

@Tony_di_bugalu would say it is js Ebony and Ivory too OP

I would say it is lazy gameplay

I'm not denying its flaws, just saying it has good traits too. I'm interested to see more of Lucia and Matier in future titles.

 

[Hecky2222]

I'm not denying its flaws, just saying it has good traits too. I'm interested to see more of Lucia and Matier in future titles.

Obv it has own advantages but imo gameplay matters more

Which is why i personally prefer DmC over dmc2 but that's subjective

 

[BlackDarkness679]

He dismissed the original Dante as a gay cowboy, suggesting Dante wasn't cool because of how he saw him that way (I've seen some absolutely awesome gay characters and worked with some awesome gay people, so right away he's a fool), and then the game had that stupid scene with the wig. Attacking the audience is bad practice, and it's getting less popular nowadays.

Didnt he also call Trish someone selling her body too?

 

[Random-Helper323]

Didnt he also call Trish someone selling her body too?

Wouldn't be surprised. Someone at Rooster Teeth called Tifa a stripper at one time.