Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

[MSahla]

Less than 4 hours until new Interlude Chapter teaser trailer if they drop it today

 

[Natsuki012]

 

[MSahla]

It's funny because in Lohen's Witch's Homework he was searching for a dragon to fight, and Ineffa is one of the options. Lol.

 

[Natsuki012]

It's funny because in Lohen's Witch's Homework he was searching for a dragon to fight, and Ineffa is one of the options. Lol.

That's what gonna happen to Lohen if he sets foot in Nod Krai

 

[DaReaperMan]

It's funny because in Lohen's Witch's Homework he was searching for a dragon to fight, and Ineffa is one of the options. Lol.

Ineffa deez nuts

 

[Mbpoops]

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[MSahla]

Goofy ahh face.

 

[MSahla]

One hour left.. I hope they really drop new PV

 

[MSahla]

Adorno was a goated Captain

 

[MSahla]

5 minutes.. Please drop it please..

 

[MSahla]

They didn't drop new PV

 

[MSahla]

If its not today probably tomorrow or friday at least

 

[MSahla]

There's still hope, gamers..

 

[AsterReal]

 

[AsterReal]

 

[MSahla]

....

 

[MSahla]

YESS

 

[MSahla]

Paimon officialy betrayed the Traveler.

 

[MSahla]

I'm sorry Lohen, but you're not winning against her.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Are we forgetting Phanes is the creator of this fate system?

“It's just a fate hax” yeah it is a fate hax, but if this fate hax can create infinite possibilities that are actually different timelines/alternate futures, and they're converged and can be observed, that is a whole different thing.


Simple: Because the Abyss is literally the natural enemy of this Fate system and they're exist outside of this system.


No
The fact that those possibilities are explicitly established as co-existing, physical 4D space-times that can be observed and interacted with, already much closer to alternate timelines than simple precognition.

Hell, you got the 6.4 Event Quest where Nicole and Alice creating a bubble world that based on the alternate future of Mondstadt had the Traveler never came to Mondstadt already proving that they're whole different timelines

thats not even related to how you get 2-A especially since again the bubble
world thry created was based about fate of dvalin if traveler didnt come and its definitely not the size of teyvat at best Lol

 

[MSahla]

thats not even related to how you get 2-A especially since again the bubble
world thry created was based about fate of dvalin if traveler didnt come and its definitely not the size of teyvat at best Lol

Bruh..

I AM NOT ARGUING wether that bubble world is infinite, universe or whatever size is it.

What I'm saying is that that bubble world they created are based on one of those infinite possibilities. So, I'm talking about that possibility does exist and real because that is an unchosen fate. Genshin has the concept of MWI. If there's a choices between A and B, if you chose A, that B option isn't disappear, but will literally created a whole new reality in another timeline. Even the most simpliest thing like choosing left or right.

 

[Puppet43]

This is an infinite of "amount", not a fkin size of a space

Sahl, u know space time continiuums have to be infinite in size right?

I DON'T KNOW YOU CAN USE LEY LINES TO TRAVEL TO A DIFFERENT PLACES? WTF?!

He litterally does this in quest, just shows the iliteracy of some

When you realise that it's just rewriting a fate within that system, not the entire system.

So in ur eyes Durin affected significatevily the fate system, therefore he scales to 2A lol

 

[MSahla]

Sahl, u know space time continiuums have to be infinite in size right?

Buddy.. You think Tier 2 is ONLY for creating/destroying a universes/space-time continuums?

It should be noted that timelines are assumed to be infinite in length, unless evidence to the contrary is provided. Hence, unless otherwise indicated, the destruction of timelines that branch off from one another and never merge would still be ranked between 2-C and 2-A (depending on the number).

Q: What is the Tier for destroying or creating several timelines?​

A: As the Tiering System specifies, destroying or >creating multiple timelines< or space-time continuums is usually ranked between 2-C and 2-A, depending on the number of timelines involved.

He litterally does this in quest, just shows the iliteracy of some

Buddy, we don't know the context yet..

So in ur eyes Durin affected significatevily the fate system, therefore he scales to 2A lol

Notice how I said "affected the fate within the system" rather than "the entire of the system" ??

Affecting a 3-D space within Low 2-C universe doesn't make you Low 2-C automatically unless you're affecting the whole structure.

 

[Puppet43]

You think Tier 2 is ONLY for creating/destroying a universes/space-time continuums?

I don't think, that is the only right answer per VSwiki definition

Your Statment: It should be noted that timelines are assumed to be infinite in length, unless evidence to the contrary is provided.

My quote from yesterday: If you genuinely believe that Phanes created the Fate system, then you would be saying that it is not infinite, since it had a beginning, after Phanes was born; therefore, the Fate system only begins the alternate routes from that precise moment.

Affecting a 3-D space within Low 2-C universe doesn't make you Low 2-C automatically unless you're affecting the whole structure.

Durin did affect the whole system of both worlds

 

[MSahla]

I don't think, that is the only right answer per VSwiki definition

First of all, this wiki's standard/definition are assuming timelines to be infinite in length that refers to the temporal extent of each timeline, not to whether the multiversal framework itself was uncreated or always existed. It does not say that a timeline must be beginningless or older than its creator to qualify as infinite.

A timeline can be infinite in temporal length even if the system governing it was established at some point.

Your statement is completely non-sequitur by itself: "Phanes created the Fate system, therefore the Fate system cannot involve infinite timelines"

It's like you're shooting a laser beam, and that beam is continuously travel infinitely without end.

Durin did affect the whole system of both worlds

Where? Where does it says bro's affecting the whole structure of those infinite possibilities/timelines?

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Bruh..

I AM NOT ARGUING wether that bubble world is infinite, universe or whatever size is it.

What I'm saying is that that bubble world they created are based on one of those infinite possibilities. So, I'm talking about that possibility does exist and real because that is an unchosen fate. Genshin has the concept of MWI. If there's a choices between A and B, if you chose A, that B option isn't disappear, but will literally created a whole new reality in another timeline. Even the most simpliest thing like choosing left or right.

then u literally lack the proof PO can just create all those infinite possibilities and that those possibilities are actually significant in size and therefore u just end up with fate hax

 

[MSahla]

then u literally lack the proof PO can just create all those infinite possibilities

"Lack the proof"
Oh please, you're the one who burden of proof, while I have this:

Question: Who created the fate of humanity?
Answer: Phanes.
Question: Who created and govern this fate system?
Answer: Phanes.

This debate should more focus on:
"Does the Fate system encompass infinite possibilities?"

Rather than:
"Can you prove Phanes personally created every single possibility?"

that those possibilities are actually significant in size

On the contrary, you have to prove this specifically.

Because, these timelines are literally converged and coexisted within the 4-D spacetimes. Two or more separate timelines can coexist without merging.

Those timelines reach the same event or outcome, but they may still remain separate timelines. Basically, it's like 2 different paths leading to the same location.

 

[Furina003]

"Lack the proof"
Oh please, you're the one who burden of proof, while I have this:

Question: Who created the fate of humanity?
Answer: Phanes.
Question: Who created and govern this fate system?
Answer: Phanes.

Actually, these things are also discussed in Dottore's boss description.
First, Teyvat is a world that predates any and all systems. This is why ancient Teyvat, before the arrival of Phanes, had neither boundaries nor order. It was only after Phanes arrived that such limitations and rules were established.

Now, he has merged as one with the Irminsul that threads through all of Teyvat.
This world inherently predates any natural order.
Until it cast its gaze, the origin and terminus of all matter were indeterminate.

At that time, the laws bestowed from the heavens had yet to be assembled, and the boundaries of humanity had yet to be defined.

No doubt, through its long voyage across the shadowed realms, it had witnessed countless stars meet their end.
And so, they too chose Order. Or, more accurately, made space to accommodate it.

Life, death, space, and time. these are the limitations imposed by Phanes.

But reason cast out all that exceeded its limits, leaving humanity blind to its true nature.
Life and death bound us into mortal shells, shackling every spark of aspiration.
Time and space closed in last of all, fencing the mind into meek obedience, so no one would dare imagine breaking free.

Dottore's goal is to break free from these limitations (fate and the laws of the world). This is why, upon becoming the False Moon God, he realized that the best place for his experiments was Irminsul. While within Irminsul, he could study the realm of "possibilities," allowing him to create a new reality free from those imposed limitations. (a true reality)

There is no inherent structure to life's flow — order was merely imposed upon it. Strip away every shackle laid across this world, and the essence of all things will at last come into view.
And that revelation... is the first light of the new world.

Only those with the resolve to pierce the veil of mundane perception may earn the right to forge a "new world."
That is the domain of "Possibility" — a perpetual and magnificent experiment that shall never reach its end.
It's time to enliven this stagnant, unchanging reality...

 

[Puppet43]

A timeline can be infinite in temporal length even if the system governing it was established at some point.

Nope, by the definition of infinite, something with a start/ending cannot be consider infinite
Why u think its impossible to meassure the entire universe without saying "infinite size"?

It's like you're shooting a laser beam, and that beam is continuously travel infinitely without end.

But is not infinite

Where does it says bro's affecting the whole structure of those infinite possibilities/timelines?

By warping both Simulanka and Teyvat fate system on his favor

this:

Sahl, Nicole never says Phanes created anything about in those scans
First scans reffears to humans becoming unpredictable and no longer needing a guidance in their lifes, the second just talks about the infinite possibilities in a universe; but then again no mention of Phanes, u litterally making up the mention of Phanes

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Whats the argument of phanes reason being spread across the entire universe?

 

[MSahla]

Nope, by the definition of infinite, something with a start/ending cannot be consider infinite
Why u think its impossible to meassure the entire universe without saying "infinite size"?

Puppet, this is not a size of a space but an infinite "amount" of something

But is not infinite

Says who?

By warping both Simulanka and Teyvat fate system on his favor

Where's the latter come from?

the second just talks about the infinite possibilities in a universe; but then again no mention of Phanes, u litterally making up the mention of Phanes

Buddy, you're the one who make that shit up; by trying to lead Nicole words refers to the universe but Nicole never says "the universe" in that passage whatsoever. She says "humanity's fate is destined to become ever more unpredictable", followed by "all those infinite possibilities". Grammatically, the "infinite possibilities" are referring back to the subject she was already discussing: humanity's fate and future paths.

My argument is Phanes created the Fate System, and Nicole later describes that system as containing infinite possibilities. Then that means Nicole does not need to explicitly mention Phanes in her dialogue. The connection is established through a chain of evidence;

1. Phanes created/established and govern the fate of humanity
2. Nicole describes the nature of that fate system

Therefore, Nicole's statement can be used to describe something that originates from Phanes. This is an obvious thing.

This is not the only time mention that humanity has infinite possibilities.

 

[Puppet43]

Puppet, this is not a size of a space but an infinite "amount" of something

I already told u just a few hours ago how u wrong btw
U have memory problems?

Says who?

Physics

My argument is Phanes created the Fate System, and Nicole later describes that system as containing infinite possibilities.

Infinites possibilities inside 1 singular space time continium, thats AT BEST Low 2C
Each other future isnt their own universe, its just an alternative path of the same

This is not the only time mention that humanity has infinite possibilities.

Love how neither scans talk about Infinite Possibilities in fate, they just hyperbolic statments or they just saying "a lot"

 

[PedjaTarzan]

"Lack the proof"
Oh please, you're the one who burden of proof, while I have this:

Question: Who created the fate of humanity?
Answer: Phanes.
Question: Who created and govern this fate system?
Answer: Phanes.

This debate should more focus on:
"Does the Fate system encompass infinite possibilities?"

Creates fate system using fate hax
fate hax allows existence of infinite possibilites
BRO THATS 2-A OMG give every @CastoriceTheFifth when are we making 2-A asat bro

On the contrary, you have to prove this specifically.

have you even tracked what i said, why would i need to prove something i dont even agree with?

 

[PedjaTarzan]

In fact these possibilities arent even realised they dont exist in literal sense this is
literally bunch of what if scenarios, even abyss doesnt have this since its all bunch of angry possibilities formed into energy and its highest feat is 3-C

 

[Puppet43]

In fact these possibilities arent even realised they dont exist in literal sense this is
literally bunch of what if scenarios, even abyss doesnt have this since its all bunch of angry possibilities formed into energy and its highest feat is 3-C

Woomy wanna kiss?

 

[Puppet43]

Woomy wanna kiss?

Woke Puppet on pride month

 

[Puppet43]

I think the abilities section is finish

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Puppet43/Sandbox#Powers_and_Stats

 

[IReallyLoveRilysse]

I can tank the explosion of the angry lover, thats low 5-B durability

Didnt we use a kuuhaki shield to protect from it.?

 

[IReallyLoveRilysse]

Whats the argument of phanes reason being spread across the entire universe?

It wad in the 6.7 readables

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

It wad in the 6.7 readables

yeah but whats the argument of phanes possessing reason universal?