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Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

MSahla said:
Oh yeah, creating structure of fate that encompasses infinitely many timeline branches? And each of these branches/possibilities were confirmed to be different timelines/alternate futures.

You see this Varka's animated short? This is Varka in another timeline had the Traveler never came to Mondstadt. And you can see how the Hexenzirkel can observed that alternate timeline, so it wasn't just a hypothetical "what if" in ordinary sense.


And you got Nicole's voiceline about Albedo where she talks about Albedo in another possibility/timeline who literally became a Descender just like Traveler. She said that this possibility is a converged possibility and even she can observed it.
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see how its just teyvat and noy entire universe?
do you even understand the context behind this 😭 on god you see a basic fate manip and decide to turn it into biggest wank possible i swear, like even abyss isnt 2-A despite being infinite angry unrealised possibilities
 
PedjaTarzan said:
see how its just teyvat and noy entire universe?
do you even understand the context behind this 😭 on god you see a basic fate manip and decide to turn it into biggest wank possible i swear, like even abyss isnt 2-A despite being infinite angry unrealised possibilities
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“Teyvat and not entire universe”
So, are we not reading Nicole's voiceline about Albedo?
"In another converged possibility, Albedo was the "Primordial Human" who traveled through worlds, recording and creating all. However, once that journey reached its end, no one would have been able to guarantee whether he would choose destruction or salvation.”
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Alternate Albedo literally became a Descender who traveled through worlds in the universe, recording and creating all things.

Bro said “It's just Teyvat” while Teyvat's fate were derived from the Universe's fate. 😭🙏
 
MSahla said:
“Teyvat and not entire universe”
So, are we not reading Nicole's voiceline about Albedo?


Alternate Albedo literally became a Descender who traveled through worlds in the universe, recording and creating all things.

Bro said “It's just Teyvat” while Teyvat's fate were derived from the Universe's fate. 😭🙏
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Ok and? like i said its literally just fate hax in no way have you proven PO can js create infinite possibilities this can mean he SEES the possibilites bro, honestly why doesnt he just use those inf possibilites to make one where they purgred abyss and have entire universe under thier dominion protected from the external danger
 
MSahla said:
Phanes 2-A/Multiverse level+ is real 😂
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fate manipulation at best
 
MSahla said:
Ok and? like i said its literally just fate hax in no way have you proven PO can js create infinite possibilities this can mean he SEES the possibilites bro,
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Are we forgetting Phanes is the creator of this fate system?

“It's just a fate hax” yeah it is a fate hax, but if this fate hax can create infinite possibilities that are actually different timelines/alternate futures, and they're converged and can be observed, that is a whole different thing.

MSahla said:
honestly why doesnt he just use those inf possibilites to make one where they purgred abyss and have entire universe under thier dominion protected from the external danger
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Simple: Because the Abyss is literally the natural enemy of this Fate system and they're exist outside of this system.

PedjaTarzan said:
this can mean he SEES the possibilites bro
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No ☠️
The fact that those possibilities are explicitly established as co-existing, physical 4D space-times that can be observed and interacted with, already much closer to alternate timelines than simple precognition.

Hell, you got the 6.4 Event Quest where Nicole and Alice creating a bubble world that based on the alternate future of Mondstadt had the Traveler never came to Mondstadt already proving that they're whole different timelines
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Idk how people struggle to get the context while the evidence is literally easy to understand and have proved that those possibilities are alternate futures.
 
MSahla said:
Idk how people struggle to get the context while the evidence is literally easy to understand and have proved that those possibilities are alternate futures.
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None of the scans you sent even hint at the slightest possibility that PO created such "Alternate Universes." For a character to be 2A, they need to destroy a multiverse with infinite space-time continuums, not "Umm, I can manipulate infinite destinies throughout history, so that makes me like 2A, trust me."

If this verse didn't update every two months, I would have abandoned it because of the sheer number of unliterary people in it and i would had gonne to scale Gachiakuta, which is a small, consistent series, not the nonsense some of you spout like "Ñiñiñiñi higher dimension = 4D Surtalogi (He hasn't even destroyed two solar systems on screen)" "Ñiñiñi Istaroth Low 2C because it's time" "Ñiñiñi Bakunawa" "Ñiñiñiñi Dottore" "Ñiñiñiñi Sovereings"
 
Well the genshin universe does seemingly contain infinite possibilities so that would be grounds for a 2-A cosmology 11D if you accept the honkai idk if anyone scales tho :P
 
Puppet43 said:
None of the scans you sent even hint at the slightest possibility that PO created such "Alternate Universes." For a character to be 2A, they need to destroy a multiverse with infinite space-time continuums,
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👉😭👈

Guidelines​

  • When is the destruction or creation of a universe or timeline ranked as low 2-C?
In accordance with the established Tiering System, an event that results in the destruction or creation of a universe or timeline is ranked as Low 2-C (Universe level+).
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It should be noted that timelines are assumed to be infinite in length, unless evidence to the contrary is provided. Hence, unless otherwise indicated, the destruction of timelines that branch off from one another and never merge would still be ranked between 2-C and 2-A (depending on the number).
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Q: What is the Tier for destroying or creating several timelines?​

A: As the Tiering System specifies, destroying or >creating multiple timelines< or space-time continuums is usually ranked between 2-C and 2-A, depending on the number of timelines involved.
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Puppet43 said:
not "Umm, I can manipulate infinite destinies throughout history, so that makes me like 2A, trust me."
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Strawman at its finest.

The argument is:
  1. The Fate System contains infinite possibilities.
  2. Those possibilities are confirmed to be alternate timelines/futures.
  3. Those timelines can be observed as distinct realities.
  4. Phanes created and imposed the Fate System.
Therefore, creating the Fate System means creating or sustaining a structure that encompasses infinitely many timelines. Notice that the conclusion is not being derived from "fate manipulation" alone?

If that so-called "fate" is an infinite framework of coexisting timeline branches, then affecting or creating that framework is a cosmological feat.
 
Mbpoops said:
Well the genshin universe does seemingly contain infinite possibilities so that would be grounds for a 2-A cosmology 11D if you accept the honkai idk if anyone scales tho :P
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We are neighbouring.
"I believe on the other side of the Starry Sea is a planet inhabited by gods who can answer all prayers and wishes, and everyone bearing a wish is on a journey to get there. I believe, in our universe, there is a world currently in a war against doomsday, where the noble and elegant souls of fourteen Valkyries burn bright, if only for a brief but magnificent moment..."
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MSahla said:
👉😭👈
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Sahl, gun to your head; proof Phanes created the AUs
MSahla said:
If that so-called "fate" is an infinite framework of coexisting timeline branches, then affecting or creating that framework is a cosmological feat.
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If you genuinely believe that Phanes created the Fate system, then you would be saying that it is not infinite, since it had a beginning, after Phanes was born; therefore, the Fate system only begins the alternate routes from that precise moment.
 
Puppet43 said:
If you genuinely believe that Phanes created the Fate system, then you would be saying that it is not infinite, since it had a beginning, after Phanes was born; therefore, the Fate system only begins the alternate routes from that precise moment.
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What is this non-sequitur? 😭👈 This is an infinite of "amount", not a fkin size of a space 😭🥀

Even if Phanes created the Fate System at a specific moment, it can still encompass infinitely many alternate timelines branching from that point onward. Those two concepts are completely independent
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The_Tetromino_King said:
I guess per sahl logic Octavia is multiversal too
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No, in my opinion, the "infinite possibilities" in Octavia's context only refer to the worlds within Miliastra Wonderland, whose size and scope are still unclear. Because of that, I do not see it as sufficient evidence to support a 2-A rating.

Meanwhile, the infinite possibilities discussed in @MSahla case are a different concept altogether. This has been explained and reinforced multiple times throughout the story. Alice herself stated that the Abyss can manifest from unchosen possibilities.
Even a very simple decision, such as choosing to go left or right, will still create alternative possibilities. These possibilities are not merely hypothetical; they genuinely manifest as existing realities.
 
Puppet43 said:
If this verse didn't update every two months, I would have abandoned it because of the sheer number of unliterary people in it and i would had gonne to scale Gachiakuta, which is a small, consistent series, not the nonsense some of you spout like "Ñiñiñiñi higher dimension = 4D Surtalogi (He hasn't even destroyed two solar systems on screen)" "Ñiñiñi Istaroth Low 2C because it's time" "Ñiñiñi Bakunawa" "Ñiñiñiñi Dottore" "Ñiñiñiñi Sovereings"
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I like this comment because it's true.
 
I mean genshin is in the honkai universe and every star system has countless possibilities from every being which would be consistant with Sahl’s scan sooooo
 
So how many of your 7-Bs do I have to pick on with Dooku until ya'll start showing up to the matches?
 
DaReaperMan said:
So how many of your 7-Bs do I have to pick on with Dooku until ya'll start showing up to the matches?
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Honestly bro, almost no Genshin supporters are really into/interest in versus threads, even if the matchups is our own characters.

I rarely responding to them, only if I want to.
 
But y'all no need to worry about anything, cause I won't make any CRT regarding this 2-A. At least not this year.
 
To be honest, infinite possibility itself isn't always 2A, unless it's proven to be a reality. This infinite possibility could also refer to the future, because as future choices are indeed infinite.

But in the context of Genshin Impact, these choices don't disappear, they actually created alternate realities.
 
Furina003 said:
To be honest, infinite possibility itself isn't always 2A, unless it's proven to be a reality. This infinite possibility could also refer to the future, because as future choices are indeed infinite.
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Unless theres quantum collapses which i dont think happens in genshin it should be fine
Furina003 said:
But in the context of Genshin Impact, these choices don't disappear, they actually created alternate realities.
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Mwi yea
 
MSahla said:
I believe HSR, or Honkai in general have the same concept no? You said so before. Can you give me an example?

Actually, this trailer might be the best example had the astral express never going to Amphoreus
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Heres 2 examples from the same arc



 
 
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