what is the point in acausality type 4?

[Mbpoops]

a few recent threads have actually made it more clear to me that this ability is completely useless. So useless in fact that even the reference profiles dont actually show what abilities it grants (or at least dont make it clear).

so like whats genuienly the point in having this ability on the wiki if it seemingly does nothing? like there are some good examples of actually useful type 4 like Lord of Mysteries and Gurren Lagann (in revision) hell even genshin impact, but then theres things like toji and maki... which legitimately do nothing.

Anyone have any ideas of what can make this ability have actual useful baseline effects?

 

[BleedingPeach]

JJK as an example isn't one of the best, mostly because their verse is about to get a lot of rework. But consider it as a Type 5 nerfed.

 

[Mbpoops]

JJK as an example isn't one of the best, mostly because their verse is about to get a lot of rework. But consider it as a Type 5 nerfed.

Wasnt aware of the verse rework but the point still kinda stands that the ability is pretty useless

 

[Robo432343]

Type 4 Acausality: Too Much For Too Little (2)

Our Type 4 Acausality standards currently read: Type 4: Irregular Causality: Characters with this type of Acausality operate on a different and irregular system of cause and effect than regular causality. This grants them resistance to abilities such as Causality Manipulation, Fate...

vsbattles.com

ye acausality 4 does not automatically grant immunity unless explicitly shown
(fate hax, precog, causality manip, time travel etc)

 

[Mbpoops]

Type 4 Acausality: Too Much For Too Little (2)

Our Type 4 Acausality standards currently read: Type 4: Irregular Causality: Characters with this type of Acausality operate on a different and irregular system of cause and effect than regular causality. This grants them resistance to abilities such as Causality Manipulation, Fate...

vsbattles.com

ye acausality 4 does not automatically grant immunity unless explicitly shown
(fate hax, precog, causality manip, time travel etc)

yea so like whats the point of the ability if it seemingly gives nothing from baseline

 

[Robo432343]

yea so like whats the point of the ability if it seemingly gives nothing from baseline

thats the thing
there is no point really

 

[Randomuser3412]

Well, from the description, it gives what it's shown to give. "Nothing" by default, but it has the potential to do many different things depending on what it's shown to do...
Though, if you wanna say it "isn't necessary" because you could just give those resistances on their own. I suppose.

 

[Mbpoops]

Well, from the description, it gives what it's shown to give. "Nothing" by default, but it has the potential to do many different things depending on what it's shown to do...
Though, if you wanna say it "isn't necessary" because you could just give those resistances on their own. I suppose.

which i mean yea you arent wrong but why do we have an ability thats just gives nothing at all? just add them as resistances like you said

 

[Mbpoops]

thats the thing
there is no point really

then there should be something for the ability, hell the other types of acausality are already "irregular" so there should be something to make it unqiue. if not then lowkey should be deleted imo

 

[BoastJr]

Toji's acasuality Type 4 is the most worthless ability on site dawg

 

[Mbpoops]

Toji's acasuality Type 4 is the most worthless ability on site dawg

maki has it too AND IT DOES NOTHING

 

[DavidTPPM]

Tbh I don't think it's that much different from many other abilities.

For example simply having existence erasure on your profile doesn't grant you that it'll actually be useful in a fight. You need actual feats to show it is. With feats it can range from nigh-useless like Denji's EE, or absolutely overpowered like Aizens passive EE.
Similarly here. Aca4 doesn't mean you have some useful application, you need feats for that. But with feats it can range from useless to pseudo-Aca5.

It's a bit unusual for a physiology type ability as unlike offensive abilities these tend to be self explanatory even without feats, but if you compare it to most other abilities it's not that much different in this regard.

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Yeah, what resistance is granted by being acausal needs to be shown, otherwise it's a fluff ability. Not to mention, when the standards regarding type 4 were changed in the CRT Robo mentioned no one actually made or pushed for any changes or updates to the character's who would no longer qualify as having any explicit use for it. Same old, same old really

 

[Mbpoops]

Tbh I don't think it's that much different from many other abilities.

For example simply having existence erasure on your profile doesn't grant you that it'll actually be useful in a fight. You need actual feats to show it is. With feats it can range from nigh-useless like Denji's EE, or absolutely overpowered like Aizens passive EE.
Similarly here. Aca4 doesn't mean you have some useful application, you need feats for that. But with feats it can range from useless to pseudo-Aca5.

It's a bit unusual for a physiology type ability as unlike offensive abilities these tend to be self explanatory even without feats, but if you compare it to most other abilities it's not that much different in this regard.

Yea i can understand that my issue is that baseline theres genuienly no point in the ability existing. Like with EE you can have baseline EE and still use it but acausality without any other abilities is completely useless fluff