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Reality Quest Discussion Thread

Judging from the limited panels I got, the dude can basically "Mold" his own body after being hit to allow for the replication of said attack. But it does seem to go beyond regular martial arts (Like the Falcon Drop he did effortlessly) to outright skills; he was about to throw either multi-strike destruction or a charge shot
 
Judging from the limited panels I got, the dude can basically "Mold" his own body after being hit to allow for the replication of said attack. But it does seem to go beyond regular martial arts (Like the Falcon Drop he did effortlessly) to outright skills; he was about to throw either multi-strike destruction or a charge shot
I understand copying the structure/method of his skills (like falcon drop is just a drop kick; multi-strike is just rapid strikes; charge shot can be seen as putting one's entire strength into a punch in simplest terms), however, I heavily doubt the effects of the skills itself can be copied. Like falcon drop can be used and cancelled as a way for Dowan to suddenly jump up several meters and Charge Shot can have proportional energy increased to it + a no-miss effect.
 
I understand copying the structure/method of his skills (like falcon drop is just a drop kick; multi-strike is just rapid strikes; charge shot can be seen as putting one's entire strength into a punch in simplest terms), however, I heavily doubt the effects of the skills itself can be copied. Like falcon drop can be used and cancelled as a way for Dowan to suddenly jump up several meters and Charge Shot can have proportional energy increased to it + a no-miss effect.
While I would have agreed with this about 5 chapters ago, after a girl can see a semi-omnipotent system window which no one else has shown to do, it does make that possibility a bit higher
 
While I would have agreed with this about 5 chapters ago, after a girl can see a semi-omnipotent system window which no one else has shown to do, it does make that possibility a bit higher
Yeah, a part of me was still thinking the non-physical supernatural parts would be limited to a few, but I just finished reading this chapter and saw that Recon said he was going to mimic more than just "movements and voice" and swordsman was going to throw an attack from far away..... Maybe we will start seeing people with more abilities....
 
Since we are updating the physiology page, should we also create a separate technique page? What comes to mind at the current moment is only the Speed Technique, Mind Control and the weird Aikido, but I think it could be expanded on demand as the story progresses (plus we know there are multiple users of each tech, supposedly)

Speed Technique
  • Choi Sunjae
  • Seehee Shin
Here, you can clearly see it's 2 different levels. Seehee can only use it in short bursts/only for movement, Choi can seemingly mix it with attacks as he has shown multiple times.

Mind Control
  • Jihan
Just him for now, maybe we'll see more users in the future

Destruction Aikido (?)
  • Seok-Yung
  • His grandfather (completely forgot his name, not gonna lie, but the author did state he and Johnatan were big deals in the past)
This one is more straightforward; it's basically Aikido except it disregards physical differences and focuses on flipping people in the air for an easy attack after. Someone can argue that there is still a major aspect to this regarding great bodies as they are "Naturally attuned for Destruction", like it's been implied multiple times, but the techniques Seok uses are entirely independent from what Great Body users actually do (as shown here, where he can use it without actually unlocking the Great Body)

Edit: Yes, I'm aware the correct translation is Extraordinary Body, but that's way too verbose 😭
Finally got my hands freed up a bit and wanted to start working on this page. Is there a template or similar that you guys are aware of?
 
I won't say I'm against a technique page but most of the series hasn't been technique heavy and also lacking in details/showing. Also, idk if a technique section with just one user is needed (Jihan can continue doing his own thing).
 
I won't say I'm against a technique page but most of the series hasn't been technique heavy and also lacking in details/showing. Also, idk if a technique section with just one user is needed (Jihan can continue doing his own thing).
Though as I say that, Auto-Mode could legit have it's own section in it considering we have seen AM mode's of other characters..... Feel like killing intent could have a section too as there are 4 users (KM Dowan, Ji, Sehee, and Sunjae)
 
I mean true but we are getting for example Swordsmanship users now who can blatantly cut from a distance. We already had a representative fight in which the latter was causing cuts from afar without actually making contact... that seems pretty technical.

And yeah dont worry, Jihan the goat can keep his power up/persona pose on his profile ✍️🔥
 
Though as I say that, Auto-Mode could legit have it's own section in it considering we have seen AM mode's of other characters..... Feel like killing intent could have a section too as there are 4 users (KM Dowan, Ji, Sehee, and Sunjae)
True on the killing intent usage, it doesn't seem to be linked to High tiers alone (Sehee im sorry but you are a nepo baby). Not sure at what you are referring for AM? Or do you mean like the spectres in the tower?
 
True on the killing intent usage, it doesn't seem to be linked to High tiers alone (Sehee im sorry but you are a nepo baby). Not sure at what you are referring for AM? Or do you mean like the spectres in the tower?
Yeah, Basically the specters of the previous villains, maybe they count, maybe they don't
 
I updated the scaling chain based on the speed downgrade CRT getting accepted.
How is this:

Low Tier: Average thugs <<< Seong-U So

Mid-Low Tier: Cho Il-Seok ≤ Kang Se-Hoon (Season 1) < Dowan Ha (Beginning of series) ≤ Above Average thugs (post Dowan's training arc) < Si-Yeon (Approval Stamp) < Shin Se-Hee
  • AP/Dura: At least 9-B (287.33 Kilojoules), higher than Low Tier
  • Speed: At least Subsonic (34.3 m/s; Cho Il-Seok can dodge Blind Spot Strike)
    • Travel Speed: At least Peak Human (10.03 m/s; Massively superior to the average thugs who are athletes)
  • Lifting Strength: At least Athletic Human (179.9 kg), higher than Low Tier

High-Low Tier: Jung Seok-Yung (Pre Training) < Dowan Ha (Post Training) <<< Gwangmyeong Kim
  • AP/Dura: At least 9-B+ (12.7 Megajoules)
  • Speed: At least Subsonic (70.98 m/s) up to possibly Transonic (354.9 m/s; Gwangmyeong Kim could react to Post Training Dowan with Boosters active which is a possible 5x speed multiplier to this feat)
    • Travel Speed: At least Superhuman (20.7 m/s; Upscales this feat)
    • Perception: Superhuman Perception (0.08 seconds; Characters in this tier can react to attacks reaching subsonic to possibly transonic speeds and so should be at least superhuman to be able to react to incoming attacks.)
  • Lifting Strength: At least Peak Human (227 kg; Upscales this feat)

Mid Tier: Jihan Yoo (Base) ≤ Jung Seok-Yung (Post Training) < Dragon <<< Dowan Ha (Post Dragon's Nest)
  • AP/Dura: At least 9-B+ (12.7 Megajoules), higher than High-Low Tier
  • Speed: At least Subsonic (70.98 m/s) possibly Transonic (354.9 m/s), higher than High-Low Tier
    • Travel Speed: At least Superhuman (20.7 m/s; Upscales this feat), higher than High-Low Tier
    • Perception: At least Superhuman Perception (0.08 seconds)
  • Lifting Strength: At least Class 5 (4.533 Tonnes) up to Class M (113061.44 Tonnes)

High-Mid Tier: Kang Se-Hoon (Season 2) ≤ Jung Seok-Yung (Season 2) <? Shin Se-Hee (Season 2)
  • AP/Dura: At least 9-A (21.9 Megajoules)
  • Speed: At least Subsonic (70.98 m/s) possibly Transonic (354.9 m/s), higher than Mid Tier
    • Travel Speed: Subsonic (118 m/s)
    • Perception: At least Superhuman Perception (0.08 seconds), likely higher
  • Lifting Strength: At least Class M (113061.44 Tonnes)

Old Rep Tier: Dowan Ha (Rage Power) ≤ Hosung Kim < XXXJihan Yoo (Mind Control) ≤ Dowan Ha (Challenger Tower) ≤ Dae Bujin < Gong-Cheol < Shin Woo-Ju < Dowan Ha (Indomitable Will)
  • AP/Dura: At least 9-A (77.93 Megajoules)
  • Speed: At least Subsonic (166 m/s), possibly Hypersonic (1,774.5 m/s; The old reps were able to somewhat react to Challenger Tower Dowan with Boosters active which should make them superior to his previous key with Boosters, a 5x multiplier to base Post-Dragon’s nest Dowan’s Transonic speed in the Mid-Tier)
    • Travel Speed: At least Subsonic (118 m/s), higher than High-Mid Tier
    • Perception: At least Superhuman Perception (0.08 seconds), likely far higher
  • Lifting Strength: At least Class M (113061.44 Tonnes), higher than High-Mid Tier

High Tier: Kim Cheong Wol < Han Eun-Sung <? Dowan Ha (Extraordinary Body) ≤ Ji Sung-Hyun < Cheon Min Yool <<< Choi Sun-Jae
  • AP/Dura: At least 8-C (3.347 Gigajoules)
  • Speed: At least Supersonic (478 m/s), possibly High Hypersonic (8,872.5 m/s; Dowan stated that the power up he got from unlocking the extraordinary body is incomparable to anything else he has ever experienced which should put Extraordinary Body Dowan’s speed above his previous key with Boosters)
    • Travel Speed: At least Subsonic (118 m/s), higher than Old Rep Tier
    • Perception: At least Superhuman Perception (0.0291 seconds) possibly Subsonic Perception (0.016 Seconds; The speed boost from Boosters also increases Dowan's perception speed by 5x, with Extraordinary Body Dowan being far superior to all his previous keys in every aspect his base perception becomes at least high-end superhuman to possibly a 5x multiplier to his baseline superhuman perception of 0.08 seconds)
  • Lifting Strength: At least Class M (113061.44 Tonnes), higher than Old Rep Tier

God Tier: Choi Sun-Jae (Speed Technique)
  • AP/Dura: At least 8-C (3.347 Gigajoules), higher than High Tier
  • Speed: At least Supersonic+ (940.82 m/s), possibly Massively Hypersonic (44,362.5 m/s; Sun-Jae is leagues beyond Post-Extraordinary Body Dowan capable of perception blitzing him and is likely even superior to him with boosters active which is a 5x multiplier to the high-end speed of the High-Tiers)
    • Travel Speed: At least Supersonic+ (940.82 m/s)
    • Perception: At least Superhuman Perception (0.0291 seconds) possibly Subsonic Perception (0.016 Seconds), likely higher
  • Lifting Strength: At least Class M (113061.44 Tonnes), higher than High Tier
 
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Honestly I think it works. We have confirmation from Dowan that he never felt "this speedy" so I think the supersonic feat should work. Though if there are arguments against it, I can also understand their point.

What im not exactly agreeing with is the order of the High tier scaling. Min Yool is definitely on the upper echelon (100% called him Minyul, didnt know it was the wrong name), as it one shot current Dowan. I have Dowan slightly higher than Ji, off purely the fact both times they fought, he was consistently shown to be above him in purely physical stats. Plus he got beat without a single skill. If AM/KM Multiplier is not into play (which doesn't from the looks of it) I'd personally invert Dowan (GB) with Ji. The rest seem honestly fine

A bit sad I cant get a re-eval for the high-mid tiers on Dowan Automode feat in time, so they are still on 20 MJs, otherwise looks good
 
What im not exactly agreeing with is the order of the High tier scaling. Min Yool is definitely on the upper echelon (100% called him Minyul, didnt know it was the wrong name), as it one shot current Dowan. I have Dowan slightly higher than Ji, off purely the fact both times they fought, he was consistently shown to be above him in purely physical stats. Plus he got beat without a single skill. If AM/KM Multiplier is not into play (which doesn't from the looks of it) I'd personally invert Dowan (GB) with Ji. The rest seem honestly fine
I'm fine with putting Min Yool above Ji. (I put him at the bottom of High Tier because he has no feats other than sneak attacking Dowan)
The scaling for EB Dowan is without AM/KM. I think Ji should be superior to base Dowan but inferior to AM/KM Dowan.

How is this for the high tier scaling:
Kim Cheong Wol < Han Eun-Sung <? Dowan Ha (Extraordinary Body) ≤ Ji Sung-Hyun < Cheon Min Yool <<< Choi Sun-Jae

A bit sad I cant get a re-eval for the high-mid tiers on Dowan Automode feat in time, so they are still on 20 MJs, otherwise looks good
Which calc?
 
I'm fine with putting Min Yool above Ji. (I put him at the bottom of High Tier because he has no feats other than sneak attacking Dowan)
The scaling for EB Dowan is without AM/KM. I think Ji should be superior to base Dowan but inferior to AM/KM Dowan.

How is this for the high tier scaling:
Kim Cheong Wol < Han Eun-Sung <? Dowan Ha (Extraordinary Body) ≤ Ji Sung-Hyun < Cheon Min Yool <<< Choi Sun-Jae


Which calc?
Thats fair for scaling.

I meant this one for the calc
 
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