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Adding NEP 1 to the gods; NEP 2 to the End; AC4 and nonexistence erasure (Nature Type 1) to Yogiri—along with all aspects.

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Okay, are there any scans about Gods having a Mind, Body, and Soul? Basically, evidence that their vessels have all those things, and aren't just avatar bodies. Also, are there any scans explaining cores as a conceptual thing? That's the only way we can determine the aspects of their NEP Type 1.

I also need better scans regarding their information, since the ones you provided don't show much of anything you state. If their information is what lets them return, wouldn't that imply that information wasn't erased?

Also, if they do gain NEP Type 1 from this, it wouldn't be combat applicable.

We can get to the rest after all this is cleared up.
 
ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
Okay, are there any scans about Gods having a Mind, Body, and Soul? Basically, evidence that their vessels have all those things, and aren't just avatar bodies. Also, are there any scans explaining cores as a conceptual thing? That's the only way we can determine the aspects of their NEP Type 1.

I also need better scans regarding their information, since the ones you provided don't show much of anything you state. If their information is what lets them return, wouldn't that imply that information wasn't erased?

Also, if they do gain NEP Type 1 from this, it wouldn't be combat applicable.

We can get to the rest after all this is cleared up.
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We know their concept isn't erased when they return to the sea of darkness, which is the contention against NEP1 for Gods.
Here are here are the main contentions from the opposition
 
Astral_Trinity439 said:
We know their concept isn't erased when they return to the sea of darkness, which is the contention against NEP1 for Gods.
Here are here are the main contentions from the opposition
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Okay, so basically everything I was asking questions about. From what I can tell, OP didn't post any actual scans refuting those points, so until they do, I disagree.
 
ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
Okay, are there any scans about Gods having a Mind, Body, and Soul? Basically, evidence that their vessels have all those things, and aren't just avatar bodies. Also, are there any scans explaining cores as a conceptual thing? That's the only way we can determine the aspects of their NEP Type 1.

I also need better scans regarding their information, since the ones you provided don't show much of anything you state. If their information is what lets them return, wouldn't that imply that information wasn't erased?

Also, if they do gain NEP Type 1 from this, it wouldn't be combat applicable.

We can get to the rest after all this is cleared up.
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For now, I want you to give your opinion on the conclusion, because I need quite a lot of time to clarify the matters regarding the gods.
 
I do not know why everyone is always against me. It's just all this obvious resentment because I disagree with them and do not want to be a servant in their hands.
 
All the commenters here have works with NEP 2 with all aspects, countless abilities, and everything else. They have supporters and backing, while when it comes to me, they are reluctant to even grant NEP 1 and keep trying to derail the thread as if they were the ones who started it.
 
Azertyhuuh said:
All the commenters here have works with NEP 2 with all aspects, countless abilities, and everything else. They have supporters and backing, while when it comes to me, they are reluctant to even grant NEP 1 and keep trying to derail the thread as if they were the ones who started it.
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just cuz some verses qualifies doesn't mean all verses should.
Have you ever thought that your understanding of NEP2, or NEP1 gods, may be flawed?
 
Before I open any thread, I make sure it is 100% correct. That is my rule. So from today onward, whenever I open a thread, know that I am 100% certain about it, and therefore do not try to convince me otherwise.
 
Azertyhuuh said:
Well, all of this has already been addressed here and here.
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Not really.

I would recommend you remake this CRT, as Elizhaa said, this time with all the proper scans and evidence, without linking to other people's reasoning from years ago. All you need is;
  • Proof that the Vessels/Avatars of Gods aren't just bodies, but also have minds and souls.
  • Proof that cores are concepts/conceptual existences.
  • Proof of their information being destroyed or tied to one of the above aspects.
  • Proof that gods can act/exist while the above have been destroyed.
After that's proven, then we can move on to the Yogiri stuff.
 
ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
Not really.

I would recommend you remake this CRT, as Elizhaa said, this time with all the proper scans and evidence, without linking to other people's reasoning from years ago. All you need is;
  • Proof that the Vessels/Avatars of Gods aren't just bodies, but also have minds and souls.
  • Proof that cores are concepts/conceptual existences.
  • Proof of their information being destroyed or tied to one of the above aspects.
  • Proof that gods can act/exist while the above have been destroyed.
After that's proven, then we can move on to the Yogiri stuff.
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Ignore the matter of the gods; I will open another topic about them.
Now, what is your opinion regarding the Dark Sea having NEP Type 1?

It is said to be a black void in which nothing exists, and even light and darkness do not exist there.

nothing but empty blackness. If someone was down there, she should have
seen them. Light and dark were subjective here, so it wasn’t like the darkness
could impede her vision.
But Malna was completely alone. No matter how much she doubted her
eyes, she couldn’t see anyone but herself.
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And what is your opinion about “The End” as well?
 
Azertyhuuh said:
Now, what is your opinion regarding the Dark Sea having NEP Type 1?

It is said to be a black void in which nothing exists, and even light and darkness do not exist there.
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Sure, though again, this is the same issue. The scan for that is on page two of this CRT, and not in the CRT itself.
Azertyhuuh said:
And what is your opinion about “The End” as well?
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It seems like NEP Type 1.
 
ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
Yeah, no issues there.
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Automatically, “The End” would also have Nonexistence Erasure Type 1 due to the Dark Sea as well, because it is the end of everything and there is nothing it cannot erase.

Currently, only Elizhaa agrees with Nonexistence Erasure.

The protagonist’s ability is to kill anything at will. There are absolutely no limits at all.
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It was a dead end. The destination of all fates, beyond which there is nothing. The end of everything in human form. It is precisely because it is the end that it stands until the end. No one can go further than it. Before this thing, fate, the plot, and the like must be a joke.
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ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
You need direct evidence of that, the same way beings with Omnipotence don't get every ability in the verse.
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This is the author’s own statement, and he explicitly said that he is able to kill anything without limits. Is there really any debate or doubt about the author’s own words?

Yes, I understand what you mean, but the situation there is different. In this case, the author himself made the statement directly and confirmed his ability to do so, and he also said that this is the foundation of his story. His story is built around a protagonist who can kill anything, no matter what, without limits.

There is no need for an actual in-universe feat for a character to obtain certain levels or abilities; even statements are taken into account as well. For example, a character might state that another character in their work can destroy all universes with a single glance, or that they possess all the abilities we have. Or like statements in Dragon Ball, such as Whis saying that a clash between Destroyer Gods would result in the destruction of the universe, or that a clash between Beerus and Goku would destroy the entire universe, and other similar statements. These are also considered.

Now we have a statement from the author himself, and the story itself is built on this foundation, as he explicitly said.

Afterword
Thank you so much for reading “My Instant Death Ability Is So
Overpowered, No One in This Other World Stands a Chance Against Me!” I
was debating who to write this afterword for, so in the end, I decided to
write something for each case.
【For Those Wondering Whether to Buy This Book】
The title of this book is “My Instant Death Ability Is So Overpowered,
No One in This Other World Stands a Chance Against Me!” It’s kind of
long, isn’t it? It’s basically just a sentence. Titles have become something
like a plot summary, so this is a case of that. The protagonist’s power is to
kill anything at will. There are no limits at all. Whoever his enemy is,
they’ll definitely die. He’s going to win in the end anyway, so who needs all
those annoying fight scenes in the way? That was the decision I made when
writing this.
Reading about a protagonist struggling through each fight is a pain. I
wanted a story where you could relax and enjoy it without any worries. I
recommend this book to people looking for something like that.
【For Those Wondering Who Tsuyoshi Fujitaka Is】
Hello, my name is Tsuyoshi Fujitaka. My side job is writing light
novels. I debuted as an author by winning second prize in the Seventh HJ
Bunko Competition. I have written two series since then, so allow me to
introduce them. I realize it’s a bit blunt to be pushing my other books
already, but if you’ve liked this book, maybe you’re interested in reading
more of my books, right?
“My Big Sister Lives in a Fantasy World” is a seven-volume series
released through HJ Bunko. It’s a modern school-life story. It’s about a boy
with an older sister with a case of middle-school syndrome, who forced him
to go through intense training to become the strongest. He ends up fighting
all sorts of things like serial killers, vampires, beastkin, monsters, demon
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Azertyhuuh said:
This is the author’s own statement, and he explicitly said that he is able to kill anything without limits. Is there really any debate or doubt about the author’s own words?

Yes, I understand what you mean, but the situation there is different. In this case, the author himself made the statement directly and confirmed his ability to do so, and he also said that this is the foundation of his story. His story is built around a protagonist who can kill anything, no matter what, without limits.

There is no need for an actual in-universe feat for a character to obtain certain levels or abilities; even statements are taken into account as well. For example, a character might state that another character in their work can destroy all universes with a single glance, or that they possess all the abilities we have. Or like statements in Dragon Ball, such as Whis saying that a clash between Destroyer Gods would result in the destruction of the universe, or that a clash between Beerus and Goku would destroy the entire universe, and other similar statements. These are also considered.

Now we have a statement from the author himself, and the story itself is built on this foundation, as he explicitly said.
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What your talking about is a NLF. You at least need evidence of him interacting with nothingness.
 
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ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
@Azertyhuuh

Unless you plan to fix the Gods section in this CRT, make sure you list everyone who disagrees with the Gods NEP. Since the all aspects section for The End comes from the comparison to Gods, you'll have to keep it not only material aspects until you fix that as well.
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Although I do not want to get into a debate about NEP 2 and matters related to gods at the moment, I am now forced to argue about aspects and the erasure of nothingness.

In any case, this is the justification for NEP and the aspects:


I honestly don’t think you are familiar with the work, but I will try to define his true form for you.

His true form is the beginning and the end of all things. He is everything and the foundation of all things. He is the one who defines and determines the Ultimate Ensemble itself, and his existence alone is what makes any existence or phenomenon possible. Without him, no existence or phenomenon would be allowed to exist. He is the end of all things and the ultimate destination of all fates. Everything will return to him, and he is the only one who will remain in the end because he is the end itself, and he is indescribable. → The evidence is in the justification itself; it is the same explanation.

The Ultimate Ensemble is the world that contains everything in the story, including all possible worlds or all conceivable worlds.

Oh, and by "world," I mean the Ultimate Ensemble World, which includes all conceivable worlds.

I know that simply saying "world" can lead to discussions about what lies outside that world, different dimensions, parallel worlds, and so on. Therefore, I do not use the word "world" lightly; when I say "world," I mean that it encompasses everything.

I hope you understand it that way.

Volume 15
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As I explained to you, his true form is what knows and defines the entire Ultimate Ensemble, and it is its endpoint. In short, the Ultimate Ensemble is the world that contains everything without exception, and his true form is what defines this world, understands it, and serves as the foundation of its existence, as well as its end, and also transcends it.

His darkness is a representation of the end of all things—the end in which nothing remains, where everything comes to an end and nothing is allowed to exist. Anything created there dissolves and vanishes. It is a void of nothingness that transcends everything, and nothing exists beyond it. This place is where all things have ended, leaving him as the only one remaining at the end.

You must understand that his true form is the foundation of all things. Everything begins from him and ends with him. He is everything. He defines and understands the entire world, and his existence is what makes any existence or phenomenon possible. Without him, no existence or phenomenon would exist. The information that constitutes reality—concepts, spacetime, fate, life and death, soul, mind, history, causality, and all other phenomena—are all part of the world. His true form is what defines and forms the very foundation of the entire world, which contains all conceivable and possible worlds.

 
ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
What your talking about is a NLF. You at least need evidence of him interacting with nothingness.
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If the Sea of Darkness is classified as NEP Type 1, there’s an argument for Nonexistent Erasure, since Yogiri defines everything in the UEW and can erase anything within it. This would naturally apply to the Sea of Darkness as well, as it’s simply a part of the UEW.
 
Elizhaa said:
It should be fine.
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What do you think of this justification? Does it look good?


Also, what aspects does the Sea of Darkness have, if you know? Help me a little with this as well.
 
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