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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20
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You're making up your own shi now. The literal lin says "feldway's power was limited to destroying the universe..." meaning he DID destroy the universe. Not even understanding that... reading comprehension loves you, but you run away at immeasurable speed??
You're making up your own shi now. The literal lin says "feldway's power was limited to destroying the universe..." meaning he DID destroy the universe. Not even understanding that... reading comprehension loves you, but you run away at immeasurable speed
No amount of yapping will let you get around that. Stop dodging the point with "star's lifespan...." yada yada, focus on the actual line saying he destroyed the universe.
Who would have known that there's no light of stars left if you just destroy the universe!
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"stasis point" is a mistranslation. The RAWs say nothingness/nihility/nonexistence:
And that's the entire point. Time doesn't flow. The "End of Time" is outside time, outside past, present and future. I literally quoted that like more than 5 times already. If you're outside the past, present and future, you can't go the past through 4D time travel cuz there's no 4D past relative to you, who now exists in a space outside the space-time continuum. The only way to time travel is through a higher time dimension. And what'd ya know, that's exactly what Rimuru does!
Also love how you completely skipped the last of the points cuz you couldn't find any argument against it
Its actually you who are making your own shid literally mention multiple time Feldaway send Rimuru to distant future not destroy universe. Eveything you dont believe is mis-translation lol. Remember stasis point exist in both mtl and otl. Also completely ignoring traveling back in time with your own thing.
"Who would have known that there's no light of stars left if you just destroy the universe"
Again the universe has reached terminal point at this point in future where where all life has ended "including star light" due to passage of time nothing else.
No one destroyed universe.
And that's the entire point. Time doesn't flow. The "End of Time" is outside time, outside past, present and future. I literally quoted that like more than 5 times already. If you're outside the past, present and future, you can't go the past through 4D time travel cuz there's no 4D past relative to you, who now exists in a space outside the space-time continuum. The only way to time travel is through a higher time dimension. And what'd ya know, that's exactly what Rimuru does!
Literally your own headcanon nothing to suggests in the LN of any kind. It was a simple time travel used in a place where space stop expanding and time does not flow which is called "End of the world" as planet of tensure did not exist and everything was devoid of life in that space.
Also love how you completely skipped the last of the points cuz you couldn't find any argument against it.
What ? Chole time travel I already explain just click on read and read the link.
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"Their maximum battle speed reaches sublight speed, and they are a natural disaster that has destroyed countless interstellar nations by leaping through space via Otherworld Gates that they generate as easily as breathing.
Although its body size can be freely changed, it is easy to see with a little thought that it is not suited to activity on land. This remains true even in a vast, fundamental world. Still, if "Mama" calls, it has no choice. Excited by this first experience, Swimu manifested on Earth. It thought it had grown to a size suitable for movement on the ground, but it seems it was still too huge. After adjusting its size a bit, it was able to move around comfortably."
The distance to the enemy is so short that it would normally be impossible to reach top speed. However, Swimu is different. It reaches sub-light speed from the start, trampling and overrunning any enemy it comes into contact with. It's the same this time. Like countless interstellar nations, this planet was bound to transform into a land of death."
All they did was destroy few nation using teleportation hop in different planets while doing it. They are True dragon level character and its outside planet of Tensura and best thing was said was transform the planet into "land of death" which again just mean destroying all life overtime if no one stop.
Although its body size can be freely changed, it is easy to see with a little thought that it is not suited to activity on land. This remains true even in a vast, fundamental world. Still, if "Mama" calls, it has no choice. Excited by this first experience, Swimu manifested on Earth. It thought it had grown to a size suitable for movement on the ground, but it seems it was still too huge. After adjusting its size a bit, it was able to move around comfortably."
The distance to the enemy is so short that it would normally be impossible to reach top speed. However, Swimu is different. It reaches sub-light speed from the start, trampling and overrunning any enemy it comes into contact with. It's the same this time. Like countless interstellar nations, this planet was bound to transform into a land of death."
All they did was destroy few nation using teleportation hop in different planets while doing it. They are True dragon level character and its outside planet of Tensura and best thing was said was transform the planet into "land of death" which again just mean destroying all life overtime if no one stop.
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Raw translations statement made by the verified translator exists lmao
“It is presumed that Feldway’s power was limited to merely destroying the universe of the cardinal world.” Blud in this wiki This is already considered a feat since it was his capabilities to do so
“Planet of tensura” cope harder because even the official tensura fandom wiki that has existed at least a decade also claims that the cardinal world is a dimension/universe type world.
Son
you literally took this straight from the wiki itself lmao
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"“It is presumed that Feldway’s power was limited to merely destroying the universe of the cardinal world.” Blud in this wiki This is already considered a feat since it was his capabilities to do so"Raw translations statement made by the verified translator exists lmao
“It is presumed that Feldway’s power was limited to merely destroying the universe of the cardinal world.” Blud in this wiki This is already considered a feat since it was his capabilities to do so
“Planet of tensura” cope harder because even the official tensura fandom wiki that has existed at least a decade also claims that the cardinal world is a dimension/universe type world.
Son
He did not destroy the Universe lol he send Rimuru to future where all Universe was destroyed as no life was present and the Universe has reached Terminal point. Universe still existed in this state. Nothing was destroyed by him.
“Planet of tensura” cope harder because even the official tensura fandom wiki that has existed at least a decade also claims that the cardinal world is a dimension/universe type world.
A planet is a planet its behave like it has map of all the nation it has Sun and moon etc. If you believe tensura planet is Universe and then its Sun is 300x universal. The only different thing about tensura planet and the universe it exist in is magicules.
Rimuru EP was mentioned at that time 251million and Ivarange was 2trillion.
Its not that hard how you come up with that you combined all EP that Rimuru was using and Ivarnge EP was mentioned in Trillions in ln23
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At this point you can just go and create a CRT where every other characters who have the power to destroy the universe and yet didn’t destroyed it should get it downgraded below 3-A instead
This has to be the most desperate, surface-level downplay I've ever seen on this thread. Imagine thinking a world is just a normal planet just because it has a sun, a moon, and a map. By your exact logic, Asgard, the Dark Schneider worlds, and literally every higher-dimensional realm in fiction are just regular planets because characters can walk on grass and look at the sky.
The Cardinal World is explicitly stated to be the Kiban Sekai 基軸世界 (Fundamental/Foundation World). It isn't just a regular ball of rock with 'extra magicules; its entire space-time fabric and structural durability are built to withstand the full, unsuppressed power of True Dragons and Primordial Demons-beings who can casually bust universes then the ones in the cardinal worlds. If it had regular planetary mass and durability, Guy and Velzard's clash would have turned it into nothing instantly.
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the fact that you said “2 trillion” ep we know you took it from the wiki and Rimuru ep wasn’t even confirmed yet officially like how tf does a mere 250m ep being can defeat a being with trillion of ep in one shot lmao
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The Cardinal World is explicitly stated to be the Kiban Sekai 基軸世界 (Fundamental/Foundation World).At this point you can just go and create a CRT where every other characters who have the power to destroy the universe and yet didn’t destroyed it should get it downgraded below 3-A instead
This has to be the most desperate, surface-level downplay I've ever seen on this thread. Imagine thinking a world is just a normal planet just because it has a sun, a moon, and a map. By your exact logic, Asgard, the Dark Schneider worlds, and literally every higher-dimensional realm in fiction are just regular planets because characters can walk on grass and look at the sky.
The Cardinal World is explicitly stated to be the Kiban Sekai 基軸世界 (Fundamental/Foundation World). It isn't just a regular ball of rock with 'extra magicules; its entire space-time fabric and structural durability are built to withstand the full, unsuppressed power of True Dragons and Primordial Demons-beings who can casually bust universes then the ones in the cardinal worlds. If it had regular planetary mass and durability, Guy and Velzard's clash would have turned it into nothing instantly.
Son
Still a planet where main story take place a prime world doesnt make it anything more than that.
It isn't just a regular ball of rock with 'extra magicules; its entire space-time fabric and structural durability are built to withstand the full, unsuppressed power of True Dragons and Primordial Demons-beings who can casually bust universes then the ones in the cardinal worlds. If it had regular planetary mass and durability, Guy and Velzard's clash would have turned it into nothing instantly.
"who can casually bust universes" This itself is false and never happened.
Son
the fact that you said “2 trillion” ep we know you took it from the wiki and Rimuru ep wasn’t even confirmed yet officially like how tf does a mere 250m ep being can defeat a being with trillion of ep in one shot lmaoBecuase he has nihility collapse.
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Son
at this point it useless to debate with someone who doesn’t even tend to understand what “capabilities” means which is the fundamental factor of scaling as a whole
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Just saying 'he has nihility collapse' doesn't fix your argument. My point still stands-you are pulling that '2 trillion EP' number straight from the wiki when it hasn't even been officially confirmed in the text. You're just making up a massive gap to filled out a feat. Even with Nihility, trying to scale characters using unconfirmed, incomplete stats instead of the actual complete source material is exactly why your logic doesn't work.
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Can you create a crt showing your concerns and worries instead of taking up space cause this is becoming of ignorance
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251 million was by combined EP all the power that Rimuru was using minus Nihility collapse. With Nihility collapse he was able match and exceed Ivarnge.
Ivarange power was mentioned in trillions so I used the number that is present in the Wikki. Are you saying I come with Trillions out of nowhere or you specifically point out me mentioning 2 trillion?
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How was it even calculated? Because you basically exclude Velgaia and Velgaia’s EP wasn’t even confirmed yet and as of Velzard, her EP is not exactly 80,000,000
I ask of you why are you bringing “2 trillion” instead of just “Trillions” and way you said “2 trillion” is like you saying that exact value of Luvelge true EP value is 2 Trillion exact
For the matter of facts If you have the problem with the whole World=planet thing why don’t you just create a crt instead of whining because right now you are in the state of denial who cling to the fact that “world=planet” thing without any significant proof of why is that?
This is my final reply to you because I don’t want to clog the thread
CJunitilarian
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none of this belong to Luvelage sonion
see do this
you have any issue with scaling or statistics, create a CRT addressing them and not clog up threads spamming worlds = planets
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Learn to read the context. Of why I posted EP of them. Becuase of the above guy claimed he dont know their EP.
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Excuse me? Learn to read and comprehend the wording because when do I say I don’t know their EP?
Wow…just wow
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You said how you combining their EP.
CJunitilarian
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didn't he say Zard's EP hadn't reached 80 mil??
so i legit dunno what you're tryna contextualize
plus your "scan" only said "trillions"
no definite metric
so idk where you pulling 2 trillion from
it could be tens or even hundreds of trillions
and i don't wanna be rude but maybe you should consider tryna gain knowledge from the knowledgeable members of this verse
you could ask questions on why worlds =/= planets if you didn't understand the upgrade thread... pretty sure Astral, Alexa heck everyone will be willing to answer you not just come and arbitrarily pose claims like they're some kinda objective statements
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"i don't wanna be rude but maybe you should consider tryna gain knowledge from the knowledgeable members of this verse
you could ask questions on why worlds =/= planets if you didn't understand the upgrade thread... pretty sure Astral, Alexa heck everyone will be willing to answer you not just come and arbitrarily pose claims like they're some kinda objective statements"
Please dont make these dumb statement. You use MTL out of context translation to prove your mis-interpreted point. And go of with hyperbolic claims and Yes world= planet is a fact you cant deny.
Let me ask you in simple way is RIMURU a "otherworlder"? If Yes is his planet that is like earth is larger than universe or is universe. Or anyone that is summoned to tensura who all are otherworlders there planet is not universal size or anything. There planet/world reside in alternate dimensions.
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If you have read the upgrade threads (which is heavily recommended by wiki policy) before arguing here, you would've known that we did not use any MTL there
And that is another instance of unproductive behaviour from you
Yes, you can have your opinion, but saying "it's an undeniable fact" is something that implies negative characteristics of opposite views, which is again, not appreciated by the wiki
CJunitilarian
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once again like i said in your "downgrade" thread, if you keep calling our trusted TLH members MTL, i'll request a ban on your head....
why can't you be constructive?? we've seen you spam multiple times that worlds=planets but never seen you actually debunk one single upgrade thread
Do not clog up our general discussion if you can't use even a minuscule of your thinking ability to debunk the upgrade threads.
why will i need to deny it?
i dunno how this is relevant tbh. Translated Raws have debunked the iota of thought that worlds=planets
please just pack ts up and stop making yourself look pitiful
Welp i tried to reason but it seems bud negates reasoning
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Reasoning died reading this. Welp universal+ size earth incoming.
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If you don't tag me, I won't respond. If you do tag me, prepare to hear something. Isn't that the basics? Just look at the first comment—who invited me here for discussions? I did not invade your Tensura glaze forum.
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Mate make a crt and put down your worries and things to rest.
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The person who originally tagged you here, did so with the intention of preventing such discussions occurring in places where they aren't meant to, such as Versus Threads and Wiki Management threads
He just hoped to explain his position in case you did just genuinely want answers
If you don't want to be bothered or interact with the fandom, it's your choice. You can unwatch this thread and ignore 1-2 more messages that might appear here, I will encourage other members not to pester you
That, of course, should be something mutual. We don't interfere with your stay in the wiki and you don't bring debates to places where they're not meant to be. Which you did a few times
Is that okay?
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If they try to make a claim for me of something on tensura verse here I will reply back.
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Understandable
Not sure if I have y'all's Discord, so will just say it here
Please do drop the topic. I insist.
Thank you
CJunitilarian
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Ooh btw i wanna join the discord server if there's one
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THEY DON'T?!?!
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Unfortunately I confirm
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Astral_Trinity439
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Alexa is so done with this topic keke
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If you willingly enter the cage with hungry lions prepare to be bitten
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The person left the cageIf you willingly enter the cage with hungry lions prepare to be bitten
Lions have no reason to chase after what's gone by
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Lions are still hungry so they'll make a noise. Gonna feed me or should I eat Astral instead?
Astral_Trinity439
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Time to throw you into a cage of hungry redditors, granny
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I think you now got an answer of what I was going to feed you
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For the first time in my life I don't know if I should be excited or scared.
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I mean you got what you are looking for i guess. We could probably use this opportunity to ban spite threads.
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I don't think people are understanding something and I didn't see the supporters explain so I will make this clear, world in context can refer to a planet and an Universe. Rimuru comes from the planet Earth from Universe A to the Cardinal World which is in it's own seperate Universe/space-time
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