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Unpopular Opinions and (Friendly) Rant thread

If we let a man have some little motion and be a tinsy bit political for a moment, Twitter users are genuinly, unironicaly the most stupidest people that walk on this planet. If we deleted every Twitter user that posts more than 1 tweet a week from reality, we would have world peace in 2 months top.

I would put 100 Reddit users into world governments before I do the same for a singular Twitter User
 
also half the calc mods will have some "im depressed do not @ me" on their page. Ig that's fine, idk why a quarter of you is down for the count but alright. But then i'll see "do not message, send to calc eval thread" and like ????? I never see you there????
Hey (It's only about 3)
 
Hey (It's only about 3)
you can rest but like still, it doesn't change the fact that there's many inactive calc mods and no progress is being made.
If y'all had a vendetta against me and my request i'd get it but like, there's people on their 6th bump in the calc thread.
 
I’ve seen a lot of my favorite content creators stream that site, and while I do think it’s funny to see how bs some of our ratings can get, I’m scared to actually watch any of their vods since I know it’ll just devolve into “the way some of these characters are scaled is stupid, so that means powerscaling as a whole is stupid and you’re stupid if you enjoy doing it!”

Idk, maybe I’m just being irrational and they’re actually chill about it and recognize the hobby isn’t all that serious
 
it’ll just devolve into “the way some of these characters are scaled is stupid, so that means powerscaling as a whole is stupid and you’re stupid if you enjoy doing it!”
whenever i try bringing up to basically everyone i know, i look more more in the spectrum than what i actually am and 100% of who were respectable said more or less it
 
you can rest but like still, it doesn't change the fact that there's many inactive calc mods and no progress is being made.
If y'all had a vendetta against me and my request i'd get it but like, there's people on their 6th bump in the calc thread.
I have no vendetta against you, but I do have vendettas with other people that were born because of calcs.

Realistically, the voluntary work is very stressfull, there are some simple things, but some who are not so simple, some calcs with errors, some calcs with things that are not exactly clear. It is not just 4-5 calcs per day, those things pile up very fast, because:

If the CGM doesn't like something about calcs, they need to tell the OP about it, and most of the time (I know this very well), they are very defensive about their calcs. If you evaluate 12 calcs, 7 of these you had a problem with it. You go to sleep, then you wake up, those 7 people responded you, 5 of them don't want to fix the things, and out of those 5 calcs you accepted, 3 will have other supporters talking about how something on it is wrong, or an oversight you commited (Because you will literally want to do anything else after having to see 12 calcs)

Put 12 other calcs you have to evaluate that day, and the number just keep going up, because said problems take a while to get fixed, and it keeps getting piled up with Calc eval request on both your message walls.

I would sleep and wake up to 20 notifications as well as the Calc Eval thread never slowing down with the amount of calcs there, that's a huge investment of your time

You also need to deal with people targetting you due to a calc rejected or being rude as hell due to other circunstances (A screenshot about me was shared here already), all for something that does not pay you

The stress is not worth the amount of things you have to do, and I truly wish it was different, I truly wish the Eval thread would have more people looking at it, or have their calcs evaluated, but I can say this is not worth it
 
I have no vendetta against you, but I do have vendettas with other people that were born because of calcs.

Realistically, the voluntary work is very stressfull, there are some simple things, but some who are not so simple, some calcs with errors, some calcs with things that are not exactly clear. It is not just 4-5 calcs per day, those things pile up very fast, because:

If the CGM doesn't like something about calcs, they need to tell the OP about it, and most of the time (I know this very well), they are very defensive about their calcs. If you evaluate 12 calcs, 7 of these you had a problem with it. You go to sleep, then you wake up, those 7 people responded you, 5 of them don't want to fix the things, and out of those 5 calcs you accepted, 3 will have other supporters talking about how something on it is wrong, or an oversight you commited (Because you will literally want to do anything else after having to see 12 calcs)

Put 12 other calcs you have to evaluate that day, and the number just keep going up, because said problems take a while to get fixed, and it keeps getting piled up with Calc eval request on both your message walls.

I would sleep and wake up to 20 notifications as well as the Calc Eval thread never slowing down with the amount of calcs there, that's a huge investment of your time

You also need to deal with people targetting you due to a calc rejected or being rude as hell due to other circunstances (A screenshot about me was shared here already), all for something that does not pay you

The stress is not worth the amount of things you have to do, and I truly wish it was different, I truly wish the Eval thread would have more people looking at it, or have their calcs evaluated, but I can say this is not worth it
The issue is, you did agree to this volunteer work. Also like, most of the old guard generally dismiss people who don't wanna fix something. I've tried disagreeing with some calc mods here and there and was either ignored or rejected, usually I had to compromise.
I know things pile up fast and I don't want you doing a crap-ton of calcs a day by yourself, but I do think you should do like 3-4 a day or two if you can, at least the ones that have spend like two month in Bump hell. If all the (or most of) calc memebers actually did like 3-4 a day then it would definitely move along and not pile up.
 
The issue is, you did agree to this volunteer work
Nobody will tell you how bad it is before you experience it yourself, I tried to quit twice, but it also it took so long to quit, that you kinda that just forget about it, unfortunately.

Also like, most of the old guard generally dismiss people who don't wanna fix something. I've tried disagreeing with some calc mods here and there and was either ignored or rejected, usually I had to compromise.
Situation by situation, sometimes we are wrong, sometimes the OP is wrong, sometimes one is in a bad mood, it depends on the calc itself and one can't really generalize it
I know things pile up fast and I don't want you doing a crap-ton of calcs a day by yourself, but I do think you should do like 3-4 a day or two if you can, at least the ones that have spend like two month in Bump hell. If all the (or most of) calc memebers actually did like 3-4 a day then it would definitely move along and not pile up.
It depends, I spent a long time evaluating every single calc in the eval thread, it never slowed down, sometimes it felt like things just got worse. I understand the frustation of things not getting evaluated, most of us were in that side as well, but when a CGM experiences the amount of stress it takes to wake up the other day with several notifications, sometimes an angry mob, as well dozens more calc to evaluate, they lose interest fast.
 
My opinion hasn't exactly been requested but given I am one of these semi-inactive CGMs and people don't seem to understand why the trend of people quitting the work is so common I think I can shed some light on it.

Being calc group is really really frustrating. People are consistently bad at making blogs, not even just in the sense that the calcs are bad but it's often very hard or at least annoying to figure out what someone is even trying to do, and then the actual math is just sort of taken for granted like we're somehow able to divine how you actually got to your result by interpreting a long string of numbers like we're Matrix characters. When a blog is good or simple (which is 1/3 of the time tops) then there's no problem evaluating it. Every other blog is a struggle, because it's much easier to tell that a calc is wrong than be able to figure out why it's wrong. Plus, people tend to be attached to their calcs, understandably, and it's not nice to tell them they've wasted their time. If they get stubborn when you know they're wrong then that's even more frustrating, because something that you did because you were asked to suddenly turns into a whole debate you're getting dragged into. For ****'s sake there's literally someone in this thread posting a pic of Drite refusing to continue a discussion like it's a callout, is it so difficult to put the dots together and realize that's exactly the type of behavior that makes the activity so frustrating?

You're very right, we did agree to this volunteer work. And "volunteer" means we do it when we want to, on our own terms. And since inevitably everyone comes to the conclusion that it's a thankless, frustrating and boring activity, that ends up meaning we do it very little. The idea that we should dedicate a time of our daily routine to evaluating calculations like it's our job is ridiculous. I get the frustration, getting calcs to be evaluated is really annoying, even I struggle with it and I'm obviously in an advantaged position. We all took the position knowing it would be mostly about calc evaluation, we're very well aware it's not done enough, it's not out fault evaluating calcs sucks ass and frankly you're not in the position to demand we work more, we're not paid and we have no obligation to actually do evaluations besides potentially wanting to.

My advice is, if you want an evaluation, make it as easy as possible for us. Make your blog in a way that's easily understandable. Explain the context of the feat, explain how you're calculating it and please please please upload the pixel scaling to the wiki, we all hate clicking on an imgur gallery to see it. I myself check all of the calcs that are posted on my walls, I just usually don't comment on them because they're either wrong in a way I can't easily explain and don't want to get into an argument over, or hard enough to understand that it's not worth the trouble.
 
It depends, I spent a long time evaluating every single calc in the eval thread, it never slowed down, sometimes it felt like things just got worse. I understand the frustation of things not getting evaluated, most of us were in that side as well, but when a CGM experiences the amount of stress it takes to wake up the other day with several notifications, sometimes an angry mob, as well dozens more calc to evaluate, they lose interest fast.
Thing is I do get dreading notifications, some very annoying debates do that to you, but the again, I would be absolutely happy if this wasn't the case, if you could do like 3-4 every 1-2 days and let it rest, maybe skip the difficult one if it's really bad - that would be ideal, in the context that at least half the people do that. That's really all. I can understand my calc sitting around when I just made it a few days ago but the issues starts actually appearing when there's people bumping for weeks or months on end.
For ****'s sake there's literally someone in this thread posting a pic of Drite refusing to continue a discussion like it's a callout, is it so difficult to put the dots together and realize that's exactly the type of behavior that makes the activity so frustrating?
I mean, assholes will appear in every strain of modertation, I understand it is frustrating but as I said, if even half of the current mod team did a few calc evals every day or every few days there'd be less drama for them and more evaluation.
If the people start debating it's not even necessary to follow up with them that much, I've had more than a few evals with Agnaa and if he said it was wrong then damn, guess it's going nowhere.
If the person really wants to fight it then he should either ask another calc mod or make a calc thread, leave it to them. If they don't, guess it wasn't meant to be.
You're very right, we did agree to this volunteer work. And "volunteer" means we do it when we want to, on our own terms. And since inevitably everyone comes to the conclusion that it's a thankless, frustrating and boring activity, that ends up meaning we do it very little. The idea that we should dedicate a time of our daily routine to evaluating calculations like it's our job is ridiculous. I get the frustration, getting calcs to be evaluated is really annoying, even I struggle with it and I'm obviously in an advantaged position. We all took the position knowing it would be mostly about calc evaluation, we're very well aware it's not done enough, it's not out fault evaluating calcs sucks ass and frankly you're not in the position to demand we work more, we're not paid and we have no obligation to actually do evaluations besides potentially wanting to.
It's not even a matter of 'work more' it's more so that there's calc members that don't even touch the eval thread. Again, if people don't wanna do it then they should quit doing it. This is the other side of it being a volunteer thing - you get to quit. If you quit people will stop bothering you, nobody will question you. What I question is that there's 20 people who got the position and yet there's people waiting for months for an evaluation, that is the issue, not you HAVING to do this.
If even a few, like in the meme, did a few evaluations every day or so then we'd already be moving along to some degree. That is what I want, some movement, not forceful work.
It is also more of an issue in my eyes because of the Calc evaluation thread specifically. it is meant to be a useful tool for the whole system, but as it stands its basically useless 90% of the time, there's pages and pages of unanswered calcs that still get bumped. At this point you could delete it and nothing would change.
My advice is, if you want an evaluation, make it as easy as possible for us. Make your blog in a way that's easily understandable. Explain the context of the feat, explain how you're calculating it and please please please upload the pixel scaling to the wiki, we all hate clicking on an imgur gallery to see it. I myself check all of the calcs that are posted on my walls, I just usually don't comment on them because they're either wrong in a way I can't easily explain and don't want to get into an argument over, or hard enough to understand that it's not worth the trouble.
Honestly agree besides the imgur thing, I don't really get why it's a problem unless you live in UK or Russia (here we've everything not working so like it's all the same). When you have several scans it's far easier to upload it to imgur or imgchest since Fandom only allows you to post like one image at a time and its a pain in the ass and the formatting for images is shit, I still haven't figured out how to allign them properly so they don't break everything immediately.

I will keep it in mind though, I was thinking of using it anyways, though long strips of manhwa will still probably have to go to the other sites as they're more of a problem for formatting or even just looking at them.
 
Nobody will tell you how bad it is before you experience it yourself, I tried to quit twice, but it also it took so long to quit, that you kinda that just forget about it, unfortunately.
Now that is actually weird, how did that happen? Could you not just pester Ant until he lets ya go?
 
The two times I did it he wasn't around, that's why it took so long. Then I evaluated some calcs for friends and I was like "You know what? Doing that for friends is nice, so I'll keep it that way for now"
Well, ig it's up to you, but if you could at least check the 6x bump calcs in the thread every once in a while and release some people from purgatory it'd be nice.
 
"hey guys calc group member her-"
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"hey guys calc group member her-"
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Ant when one of the calc members wants to stop getting abused and quit staff
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Also Ant when there's a chance to start a drawn out political argument in The Boys thread (he never even watched it)
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Off topic, but how good/bad Vzearr was as CGM? That'll be ironic if he somehow had calculation skillslop and just thrown it away due to his bad temper
 
I hate when there's a massive time gap between a video game and its sequel, especially in RPGs. The most extreme example is when the next game takes place centuries after the previous installment, so the only mentions of the events from the last game can be found in random books and a NPC from the last game who just happens to have longevity/immortality saying something like "Ooooooh, once upon a time there was this super vague event I won't elaborate on, and I met this massive dumbass who helped me/the place I just happened to be in ooooooooh."
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It's somehow even worse if the sequel takes place, like, eighty years after the first game, so now instead you have descendants of the NPCs going "Oh yeah, there was like, some guy who came to visit here decades before I was even born, and they did some great work for the community. Don't even know who the **** they were or who told me this story."
 
One thing I can agree with Armor here is that most calc blogs here absolutely suck ass.
If not formatted like a schizophrenic wrote it, it may instead include so little context especially if it's a recalc.

The MHA calcs are an example of good calc blogs because they actually take advantage of the formatting tools of the fandom wiki instead of typing words like neanderthals.
 
I hate when there's a massive time gap between a video game and its sequel, especially in RPGs. The most extreme example is when the next game takes place centuries after the previous installment, so the only mentions of the events from the last game can be found in random books and a NPC from the last game who just happens to have longevity/immortality saying something like "Ooooooh, once upon a time there was this super vague event I won't elaborate on, and I met this massive dumbass who helped me/the place I just happened to be in ooooooooh."
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It's somehow even worse if the sequel takes place, like, eighty years after the first game, so now instead you have descendants of the NPCs going "Oh yeah, there was like, some guy who came to visit here decades before I was even born, and they did some great work for the community. Don't even know who the **** they were or who told me this story."
lmao

I low-key disagree but when you put it that way it's funny
 
This is why I need to be a calc mod. I would be pretty active and wouldn't be biased besides the occasional down voting of things I dislike such as umamusume, hazbin hotel, danganronpa, helluva boss, rick and morty, mha, demon slayer, solo leveling, persona, Hitler, etc.
 
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