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Fire Emblem Discussion thread: New Forum, New Mystery of the Emblem

TheGatememer said:
This conversation reminds me of this quote I found:
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Huh i wonder if the Falchion's seal was broken during Anri's time? My other theory is that Anri formed a pact with Gotoh as Mila and Duma's lines where tied to the Valentian Falchion so it's definetly possible that Naga can allow select other Divine Dragons to use her power.
 
HoodedEnigma said:
Huh i wonder if the Falchion's seal was broken during Anri's time? My other theory is that Anri formed a pact with Gotoh as Mila and Duma's lines where tied to the Valentian Falchion so it's definetly possible that Naga can allow select other Divine Dragons to use her power.
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Doubt the broken seal parts, since the narrative of Shadow Dragon and Mystery are kind of blunt saying only Marth can use the Falchion. Gharnef specially can't even draw it from the scabbard. Sheema is Marth's cousin, but there is not confirmation and implied she can't due to Holy Blood not being a major one. I also forgot to mention that Awakening actually does mention Holy Blood. And that the Ylissean royal family even have a Holy Blood of Naga as marked by the "Brand of the Exalt."

Edit: It was implied that Gharnef may have been looking for a way to break the seal, so he could use it to betray Medeus and take over the world himself. But obviously never succeeded and unlikely he was able to.
 
HoodedEnigma said:
The lore of the first exalt made it sound like he was the first of the Altean lineage to become a Holy Blood though I could be completely off base as this all just my conjecture thoughts.
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I wasn't denying the Ylisse family and First Exalt of being Holy Bloods. Though he may be the first to actually have a direct blood pact with Naga.
 
HoodedEnigma said:
I wasn't denying the Ylisse family and First Exalt of being Holy Bloods. Though he may be the first to actually have a direct blood pact with Naga.
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It is possible that Anri needed a ritual to receive Holy Blood rather than due to ancestry or being descendant of Naga.
 
Yea it's possible, To preface i know what a holy blood is, I was simply speculating because of the ambiguity around Anri's claim to the blade and the lack of direct mention of Dragon Pacts, Rituals, Holy Bloods and Brands during the events of Shadow and Mystery of The Emblem.
 
I was wondering lately, should Tiki be capable of using the power of the spheres in the Binding Shield? as in, does she have her own gems? She is currently stronger than Naga, and Engage seems to suggest that she has them at their disposal. There's also the Mythic Hero Tiki in Heroes that was introduced recently, which suggests this as well, as she has a passive status effect that is labeled as "Fire Emblem", which has the effects of the spheres in the Binding Shield, and her attack, Everlasting Voice, seems to include the spheres in her attacks
 
XatorNova said:
I was wondering lately, should Tiki be capable of using the power of the spheres in the Binding Shield? as in, does she have her own gems? She is currently stronger than Naga, and Engage seems to suggest that she has them at their disposal. There's also the Mythic Hero Tiki in Heroes that was introduced recently, which suggests this as well, as she has a passive status effect that is labeled as "Fire Emblem", which has the effects of the spheres in the Binding Shield, and her attack, Everlasting Voice, seems to include the spheres in her attacks
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Mythic Tiki state that she have become the new Naga so she wouldn't compare to regular Tiki. And Emblems have additionnal powers compared to their living selves.
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A but out of topic but we have further proof that Naga should have the abilities of the 6 jewels
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We also have this statement whatever that mean, not sure it grant anything
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Franstel said:
Mythic Tiki state that she have become the new Naga so she wouldn't compare to regular Tiki. And Emblems have additionnal powers compared to their living selves.
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I'm not so sure, the Japanese raw doesn't seem to imply something as definitive, since it seems to draw the difference between the Voice of the Divine Dragon and the role of the reincarnation of Naga

あなたが召喚したのは神竜の巫女？ それとも――新しきナーガ？ あなたが知る「チキ」は……いつの私？

Did you summon the Divine Dragon Priestess? Or perhaps a new Naga? The "Tiki" you know... is that me from some time ago?
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and Mythic Tiki calls herself the Voice of the Divine Dragon

たくさんの光、逆巻く炎と闇…… 人であれ、竜であれ、繰り返される 多くの罪と過ちを見てきたわ。
それが生きるということなのかもしれない。 個として、種としての生きる希望…… それは他と競う力や欲望でもあるから。
私にも、そんな頃はあった。 自分が世界の中心であるような感覚… そんな人たちと共に在りたいという気持ち。
彼らと、彼女たちの生を見届けて―― 私はこれからも、人々を見送り続ける。 世界を見守る神竜の巫女として。
それは悠久の孤独……その果てに、 在りし日の竜族が滅び去ったように いずれ私の精神も枯れ、四散するでしょう。
私の予感だと、 【Summoner】。 あなたも同じ運命を抱えている気がする。 数多の時代に在り、同時に隔絶する者――
私は幸運だった…だからどんなときでも、 人の心を信じ続けることが出来る。 あなたもそうであると、嬉しいわ……


So much light, so much flame and darkness... I have seen so many sins and mistakes repeated, whether by humans or dragons.
Perhaps that is what it means to live. The hope to live, as an individual, as a species... is also the power and desire to compete with others.
I was like that too, at times. I felt like I was the center of the world... A desire to be with such people.
Witnessing them and their lives... I will continue to see people off. As a divine dragon shrine maiden who watches over the world.
It is an eternal loneliness... and at the end of it, just as the dragon race of old perished, my spirit will eventually wither and scatter.
I have a hunch, [Summoner]. I feel you share the same fate. Existing in many eras, yet isolated at the same time...
I have been fortunate... That's why I can always continue to believe in the human heart. I hope that it's the same for you...
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Tiki in the Future Past DLC also states that she is no longer the Voice of the Divine Dragon and can't meddle in human affairs, which is contradictory to Mythic Tiki
いいえ、 ルキナ。 私はすぐに、
ここを去らなければならないわ。 役目を果たした以上、 こうやって
無間に人と接触してはいけない。 私はもう、
神竜の巫女ではないのだから。


No, Lucina. I must leave here immediately. I have fulfilled my role, so I cannot come into contact with people like this. I am no longer the Divine Dragon Maiden.
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especially since the description of Mythic Tiki blatantly refers to her role previous to the events of Future Past

The Voice of the Divine Dragon who sits within the temple. Her spirit forged by eons, she has come to understand her role in history. Appears in Fire Emblem Awakening.
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as well as her own statement in her status screen

チキよ。みんなは私を神竜の巫女と呼ぶわ。

It's Tiki. Everyone calls me the Dragon Maiden.
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XatorNova said:
I'm not so sure, the Japanese raw doesn't seem to imply something as definitive, since it seems to draw the difference between the Voice of the Divine Dragon and the role of the reincarnation of Naga


and Mythic Tiki calls herself the Voice of the Divine Dragon


Tiki in the Future Past DLC also states that she is no longer the Voice of the Divine Dragon and can't meddle in human affairs, which is contradictory to Mythic Tiki


especially since the description of Mythic Tiki blatantly refers to her role previous to the events of Future Past



as well as her own statement in her status screen
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The way she phrases it still seem pretty ambiguous but even if she isn't it still a Tiki that have lived for far longer than the one we know

Btw where do you find your raws ?
 
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Fire Emblem 6 & 7 | Leaving Superhuman LS hell

This calc was recently accepted putting Lyn's LS at Class K and her travel speed at Subsonic. Who scales ? For LS, pretty much every characters from the cast of the Elibe's saga aka fire emblem Blazing Blade and Binding Blade as they are either directly stated/shown to be stronger than Lyn...
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That makes things less controversial, though Priam does have his own feats being comparable if not superior to Chrom. And that his version of Ragnell is nerfed compared to when Ike used it against Black Knight. But at best, only Ike, Black Knight, Ashnard, obviously Ashera/Yune/Ashunera, Laguz monarchs, and arguably some dragons could qualify. I highly doubt all dragons, and could maybe see Laguz kings (Keep in mind that Sephiran/Lehran counts as part of that group. It's especially him and Dheginsea who qualify). Those with Ragnell or Alondite or Ashera Armor would also suffice.
 
Made a tier list for Radiant Dawn units; Black Knight isn't technically supposed to count as a Unit. But he is like strongest for his join time, but almost no availability. So I put him in the middle of a center divide just for laughs or to draw a line of space between upper and lower halves.
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Fire Emblem - Tellius and Archanea invulnerability revisions

A review of two of the various invulnerability existing within Fire Emblem. Tellius Characters from Tellius do not currently have good justifications for their invulnerability but they might still qualify for it so let's take a look into it. The invulnerable Tellius characters are the three...
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High 8-C Tiersetter Mortal Kombat Tournament Round 1, Match 2 (Maurader vs. Ephraim)

Second match of this tournament. Da Rules: Speed is always equalized Combatants start ~5 meters apart from one another (or however far the MK games place fighters) In the event of an inconclusive match, I'll flip a coin to choose who advances For pacing purposes, tournament advancement will be...
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Percy Jackson (Riordanverse) vs Lyn (Fire Emblem) | 0-0-0

vs Rules: *Speed equal *The fight happen next to an olympic pool *Lyn's 7-B rating is used and percy is in his "The Last Olympian" key *Lyn know that a certain spot on Percy's body is vulnerable but not where Votes: The son of Poseidon: AP: 7,3 megatons normally, 14,6 megatons via water amps...
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Unfortunately, Gatememer also requested to be permabanned on forum. He wants to at least take a break, or possibly leave and not sure how long. Though his wiki account isn't blocked, just his forum.

But I think lots of us are anxious about making more power creep heavy profiles; as Engage is certainly that.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
Unfortunately, Gatememer also requested to be permabanned on forum. He wants to at least take a break, or possibly leave and not sure how long. Though his wiki account isn't blocked, just his forum.

But I think lots of us are anxious about making more power creep heavy profiles; as Engage is certainly that.
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Well thats sad to hear.

Also I'm curious about Engage haxes given I've played the game and I was rather happy with it (story is terrible, gameplay is good)
 
I was looking at the Dullam spell from Mystery of the Emblem, and was wondering if it could be used for light speed, since it is described as a beam of light



Taking a look at the attack animation (3:09 mark),



it doesn't seem to be a case of aim-dodging, since Jeorge starts moving on the first frame of the spell trajectory, which is already in its way



Though maybe I'm wrong at the exact criteria on deciding aim-dodging, what are your thoughts?
 
XatorNova said:
I was looking at the Dullam spell from Mystery of the Emblem, and was wondering if it could be used for light speed, since it is described as a beam of light



Taking a look at the attack animation (3:09 mark),



it doesn't seem to be a case of aim-dodging, since Jeorge starts moving on the first frame of the spell trajectory, which is already in its way



Though maybe I'm wrong at the exact criteria on deciding aim-dodging, what are your thoughts?
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Possibly?
 
XatorNova said:
I was looking at the Dullam spell from Mystery of the Emblem, and was wondering if it could be used for light speed, since it is described as a beam of light



Taking a look at the attack animation (3:09 mark),



it doesn't seem to be a case of aim-dodging, since Jeorge starts moving on the first frame of the spell trajectory, which is already in its way



Though maybe I'm wrong at the exact criteria on deciding aim-dodging, what are your thoughts?
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Unsure, but could see some merit.
 
I had a translator look at it awhile back.
https://vsbattles.com/threads/official-translation-requests-thread-new-forum.107531/post-6376906



3 ドゥラーム

2つの巨大な悪魔の目を呼び出し、その目から発する光線で相手の体力をごくわずかを残して削る魔法。

暗黒に引き込まれた魔道士が使う。

3 Dulem

A spell that summons 2 giant demon eyes, which uses rays of light emitted from them to reduce the enemy's physical strength to just a tiny amount.

It is used by mages drawn to the darkness.
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Shez has entered a Tournament.
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High 6-A to 5-C Redux Tournament (2026): Shez vs Hakurou

Vs The arena doesn’t erupt this time— …it hushes. Because stepping forward is a man whose very presence commands respect. Hakurou, the aged swordmaster. Calm, disciplined, and utterly lethal. His blade remains sheathed, yet the pressure in the air already feels like steel against the throat...
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Planning a revision for Awakening,, I'll revise the stats and profile tell me if you want to add anything.
I've calced the Flora freezing the sea feat and it's island level, if its affected it would scale to average tier characters from fates/awakening.

I've also done a Class M feat done by Flavia which would scale to the playable characters from Awakening and maybe fate.

For Dual Guard I think it would be better to list it as a reaction speed boost (since it's only for the short movement of the character blocking an attack) tied to Pair Up considering it canonically buff speed.
For now I've almost completed Chrom, Robin, Tiki and I will do Walhart and Validar.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Franstel/Chrom
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Franstel/Robin
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Franstel/sandboxTiki
 
Franstel said:
Planning a revision for Awakening,, I'll revise the stats and profile tell me if you want to add anything.
I've calced the Flora freezing the sea feat and it's island level, if its affected it would scale to average tier characters from fates/awakening.

I've also done a Class M feat done by Flavia which would scale to the playable characters from Awakening and maybe fate.

For Dual Guard I think it would be better to list it as a reaction speed boost (since it's only for the short movement of the character blocking an attack) tied to Pair Up considering it canonically buff speed.
For now I've almost completed Chrom, Robin, Tiki and I will do Walhart and Validar.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Franstel/Chrom
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Franstel/Robin
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Franstel/sandboxTiki
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was the calculation for Dullam approved? maybe we can slot that in the CRT too
 
Franstel said:
Planning a revision for Awakening,, I'll revise the stats and profile tell me if you want to add anything.
I've calced the Flora freezing the sea feat and it's island level, if its affected it would scale to average tier characters from fates/awakening.

I've also done a Class M feat done by Flavia which would scale to the playable characters from Awakening and maybe fate.

For Dual Guard I think it would be better to list it as a reaction speed boost (since it's only for the short movement of the character blocking an attack) tied to Pair Up considering it canonically buff speed.
For now I've almost completed Chrom, Robin, Tiki and I will do Walhart and Validar.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Franstel/Chrom
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Franstel/Robin
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Franstel/sandboxTiki
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Looks pretty cool, Island level Mid Tiers sounds exciting.
 
question, what is the ruling on reclass in the wiki? Is it assumed to take place? For example, would a unit from Shadow Dragon be theoretically capable of wielding any weapon?
 
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