Great so 2 perception blitz lvl amps? also sky walk seems more like a minor speed boost since the initial blitz was just sanji simply using his base blitzing speed rather then achieving that blitzing speed with sky walk.
Wrong. Diable Jambe
increases the speed of kicks, which is
what is used in order to use sky walk. Sanji
utilizes acceleration as a result, which is what legs him perception blitz when pairing it with Sky Walk.
The pic you shown of it being relative to gear 2nd (unless you mean diable) is not even luffy while in g2 as he doesn't have the steam on him or the pink skin that usually shows g2 is being used.
What? Luffy
literally had steam trailing him and used a "Jet" attack, which is an indication of Gear 2nd attacks.
Also you can argue that's simply Diable keeping up with g2 and not sky walk unless you got a specific panel for it being specifically sky walk
Yes?
Diable Jambe's kick speed is relative to
Gear 2nd's punch speed that blitzed Blueno's Soru, as well as
Hybrid Lucci's Soru and Razor techniques, which are perception blitzing level amps themselves. Like I said above, adding Sky Walk
grants Sanji further acceleration beyond the standard speed amp.
So at best if the raid suit is equal to diable jambe in terms of a speed amp thats 2 p blitz amps to deku's 3.
Deku has 2 perception blitz stacked with one reaction blitz.
Sanji's Diable Jambe is on a level that
perception blitzes a perception blitz amp. He can add a
reaction blitz on top of that with Sky Walk acceleration. Sanji's Raid Suit was stated to grant him far greater speed that anything he's had in the past, meaning by itself, it is beyond even Diable Jambe + Sky Walk. Sanji can
add Sky Walk with the Raid Suit to add the booster's acceleration for even greater speed.
Sanji has the speed advantage without even factoring the reaction amp from Observation Haki.
people like incomplete shigaraki have suggested soul manipulation resistance since as early as the sns fight as he should be superior to sns who could resist having her vestige destroyed by many vestiges attacking her at once since shigaraki is known for being one of if not the tankiest person in the verse
Is this accepted and on Shigaraki profile?
he likely at least has equal soul manip resistance at worst due to arguably having more will power to resist said attacks in which Shigaraki would get 60x stronger since he becomes a Prime Might level combatant in the FW arc meaning theres a chance he has even higher soul manip resistance. Then deku later on even with just a couple soul attacks is dealing significant damage to Shigaraki's hate barrier which was formed from his sheer hatred which is connected to ones will power in a way. This already makes Deku's soul punch quite critical in terms of damage since it can significantly hurt a person who already has high resistance to soul manipulation
"Likely"
"Arguably"
Seriously, is any of this on his profile? Why are you saying that as if it's not actually accepted fully?
big mom at best also has high soul resistance (we'll just say she's equal to shigaraki in soul manip resistance) but due to this sanji being inferior to big mom in armament haki its likely not as high so yes deku soul punching is still a valid win-con so he could likely finish sanji within 4-5 soul attacks and at max all 8.
Wrong again.
Even Perospero could block Brook's soul cutting with their Haki. Sanji's is just as good as his, if not better.
It wouldn't even scratch Sanji's armament Haki defense.
It is true since its 3 perception blitz amps to 2. No thats not true since deku already has 3 perception blitz level amps + danger sense which allows him to react to nagants bullets which were previously outpacing if not basically reaction blitzing him from far away so thats 3 perception blitz c/r amps and 1 reaction/perception blitz reaction speed amp. This is more then enough to deal with Sanji's 2 perception blitz c/r amps and 1 perception blitz reaction speed amp
This is just blatant misinformation. Overlay is not a perception blitz amp. Deku
created an opening for a verbatim sneak attack by distracting Shigaraki's danger sense with the heroes behind him and by throwing blood in his line of sight. Even with all of that, Shigaraki was
still able to perceive Deku's movement at extremely close range and manage to throw his arm out and shoot a beam in the time it took for Deku to cross that distance and land a punch.
Proof that Full Cowl Deku's running speed is at all comparable to his FTL combat speed?
Armament Haki won't matter since it's multiplier in unquantifiable but at worst lets assume its a 2x amp in dura and then the raid suit is the same at best that brings sanji's dura to 69 teratons to deku's 93.25 teratons which definitely closes the gap significantly but each punch from deku is still 1.3x sanji's own durability so Deku still has the advantage here.
Did you not read what I said..?
Ichiji's base durability of 200.99427 gigatons was boosted to being able to take Katakuri's 17.25 teraton attacks after wearing a Raid Suit. It's portrayed as a massive boost to durability.
Without being at least a one-shot tier above Sanji, which Deku's 5x amp isn't enough for, any amount of significant damage is impossible. The
Raid Suit's cape acts as a shield which is superior to its base durability.
Armament Haki is also able to tank attacks that would instantly kill the user's base. That's 3 layers of one-shot tanking level defenses. Sanji will be fine.
And this isn't to say that Sanji's endurance isn't good either. He can fight after being
drowned while having internal organs completely ruptured. He endured getting
stabbed in the heart, and then got
destroyed by Oars and
Kuma, but was still standing afterwards.
Deku does not have an advantage here.
The suits are generally inconsistent too since base sanji without the suit can still take hits from queen and itsl ikely sanji even with the raid suit added on top wouldn't just allow him to no sell attacks from queen.
Sanji never used the Raid Suit on Queen. I'm talking about Sanji's siblings and father.
I've acknowledged your points for Sanji's speed saying deku likely wouldn't BLITZ HIM that doesn't mean I agreed that Sanji wouldn't at least get OUTPACED at worst. There is a lot of proof that Deku would be a bit faster then him at worst via the argument above. They are generally the same amps reaction speed wise at worst (albeit Danger Sense is arguably just a reaction blitz level amp to sanji's perception blitz lvl amp with obv. haki).
I've debunked Overlay's alleged perception blitz amp, so Sanji is faster, and he has far better precog regardless, better than characters superior to Rebecca,
who can react to perception blitz amps.
I can agree that Sanji is probably a better martial artist but to say through that alone that allows him to skill stomp deku is insane when Deku himself is superior to AM who has 100 years of combat experience meaning at worst he's already greatly skilled himself and with the vestiges who are also all generally skilled in their own right would also help deku here
Combat experience isn't an indicator of skill without actual impressive feats. Beating somebody with combat experience matters even less. Being "generally skilled" is not enough. Beginning of Series Sanji was
skill stomping a 40th Dan karate practitioner in close combat, which is extremely impressive considering real like Karate only goes up to 10th Dan, making Sanji comedically above the the real world's limit of karate in terms of skill.
I'm not saying Deku is more skilled then Sanji as Sanji likely is more skilled in pure h2h combat but it wouldn't be the giant stomp like you portrayed it to be. Also deku does have feats in close combat thats quite literally his entire style since he's a closed ranged fighter he's BOUND to have some feats but he's mainly known for his BIQ.
I don't see why it wouldn't be a stomp. Deku fights mostly with his legs, and Sanji
has experience besting highly skilled leg-oriented martial arts. Sanji has already proven that he's the more skilled combatant with their legs.
Sanji is also known for his BIQ. Send impressive BIQ feats from Deku. Here are some of Sanji's:
The page you linked at best means Diable Jambe upscales 50k degrees significantly in which Deku also tanks cloud to ground lightning and gets out of it just fine to attack Nine more. Shigaraki would likely have superior heat resistance to that Deku
Where was it accepted that Incomplete Shigaraki has superior heat resistance to Deku? You're saying "likely" again, so I have no reason to take this as a fact.
shigaraki proceeds to get a shit ton stronger meaning his heat resistance likely has gotten even higher in which all PAM tiers should generally have that level of heat resistance due to scaling above incomplete shigaraki and endeavor
Getting stronger doesn't mean heat resistance increased. There would need to be explicitly better feats of resistance or a statement that shows it.
Is there a statement that says that Prime All Might has better heat resistance than Incomplete Shigaraki or Enheavor? Being more durable =/= having better heat resistance. There needs to be a feat.
Deku would upscale that due to being much stronger then baseline PAM tiers.
Is there a statement that Deku has greater heat resistance than Prime All Might? He'd just scale relative.
at worst he's tanking Diable's heat just fine and is gonna continue fighting
Except Haki has resistance negation for fire shown by
Ace negating Jinbe's resistance that
previously allowed him to tank his flames.
Ace was also able to
completely scorch someone he couldn't burn before by growing in Haki and negating his resistance.
Deku is getting his
bones and organs burned.
Even with that dura neg none of those hits would land due to Deku with danger sense + all his p blitz amps so he could dodge all of Sanji's attacks at worst so it doesn't matter
Observation Haki users constantly fight other Observation Haki users, meaning almost everyone in the verse has experience in battles of precognition. Highly skilled Observation Haki users are able to
know and attack the location that lesser precog users dodge into. Deku is simply outmatched here.
Plus they wouldn't one shot him likely as Deku already has insane endurance already as he could still move and fight even when his body is literally falling a part
Literally falling apart? Could I see a scan of this?
low on oxygen from gearshift and could still keep going with overlay helping him
That's cool, but One Piece characters are able to fight for days at a time and Sanji himself spent 2 years constantly running. on top of the endurance feats I listed above. Deku does not have better stamina.
That may be true but it is still a reaction blitz to an arguable perception blitz level reaction amp so even if I agree Obv. Haki is superior to Danger Sense it still doesn't cover the 3 p blitz lvl c/r amps and 1 reaction to p blitz lvl reaction amp. At worst this means Deku is outpacting Sanji here and is equal if not superior in reaction speed. So no Sanji does not have far better combat speed due to reasons listed here and above in this message.
I sent proof of
Observation Haki reacting to a perception blitz level, and seeing
relative opponent's as being in slow motion. It's not arguable. Deku does not have 3 perception blitz. He won't be outpacing Sanji.
There still is a 1.3x diff which allows Deku to still deal damage just not as much as before but thats with all his amps helping him and if the cape shield can block some attacks. Deku's heat resistance is still VERY relevant as i've explained above. Now i've hammered in that Sanji isn't faster and actually gets outpaced by Deku.
Not really? Sanji AP upscales a great deal from 17.25 teratons. This is Onigashima Sanji, this value was all the way from Dressrosa 3 arcs prior. Armament Haki is durable enough to tank attacks that can oneshot his base. The Raid Suit is above that, and his shield even higher.
I've debunked both your speed and heat resistance arguments.
You're welcome to send feats to defend your stance like I've done for Sanji. Otherwise I have no reason to humor the idea of Deku having better BIQ.
