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UNDERTALE/DELTARUNE [shiny new] DISCUSSION THEAD

Yeah here its arm is like, its entire body length, it's so bleak 😭

Truth be told, we can probably get a 150-200m tall Titan using both the methods I cited, would be far more consistent too.
There is also Titan shot in trailer for chapters 3-4. Just need to account for distance from POV (Since Gang attacks enemies from considerable distance), and then compare it to shown Titan proportions in Ralsei retelling of Roaring
 
There is also Titan shot in trailer for chapters 3-4. Just need to account for distance from POV (Since Gang attacks enemies from considerable distance), and then compare it to shown Titan proportions in Ralsei retelling of Roaring
Yes! Animation is far more reliable than sprites too. Should I put all three methods in a blog, or do you want to do it? I'll gladly hand over the pixelscaling of the tower.
 
Chapter 5 will make the second version of that thread even easier nglmkmk
This confidence is unwarranted, ngl. Chapter 3-4 had a steep rise in escalation compared to chapters 1-2 (both inverse and in calcs). We faced Roaring Knight, fought Titan, find out about tragedy at the end. Verse escaped tier 9 hell, and upgraded from barely Supersonic to HH+ at least, from Class K to G.
Chapter 5 would prolly continue this battle tendency. Only thing we know is that Gang would collect final egg, final shadow crystal and would hear some important lore about them from Seam, and we would see how much Noelle did became stronger in weird route.

Also, you were talking about speed progression, and how Susie was subsonic in chapter 1, and how she increased speed to hypersonic in chapter 4. I forgot to tell you that chapter 4 Susie in LW has better subsonic feat than chapter 1 DW feat, and scales to Transonic feat in LW.

Subsonic in DR is Infinite speed in cross-verse, lol.
Huh?
 
Were you infected by brainrot Russian DR fandom?
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Against 7-B AND FTL?
1. Best (realistic) scenario for you is that staff agrees that Zapper feat is invalid, and Jackenstein feat would be deemed outlier. You would need 3 new staff votes to do so. Even then, new random ass Rel/FTL would return FTL scaling.
2. Main bulk of your arguments was about how DWs are "fake" worlds. It was rejected. What do you think would staff decide about this topic, when chapter 5 drops, and would see execution of pretty obvious subversion by Toby?
Hint: mantle games starts by Tenna proclaiming that everything in them is fiction > finishes by ERAM being able to kill Kris > mini Kris literally walking from the screen. Chapter 3 starts with Ralsei proclaiming everything in DWs as fake > chapter 4 ends with fight against supposedly fake being, threatening to annihilate world. What would you think final conclusion of this development would be?
More about this here
Hold on, I forgot that WE already answered to question "Did events in DW actually happened".



There is always chance of several consistent tier 8 anti feats. And there is always a chance of bonker feats that would outweigh it
 
1. Best (realistic) scenario for you is that staff agrees that Zapper feat is invalid, and Jackenstein feat would be deemed outlier. You would need 3 new staff votes to do so. Even then, new random ass Rel/FTL would return FTL scaling.
The fact this is having any resistance is honestly baffling.

"Here's 2140923570381709134789 inconsistencies in the magic system and unrealistic behavior on virtually all of them."

"Hmmmm... But Zapper and ******* BATTLE ANIMATION SCALING THO"

2. Main bulk of your arguments was about how DWs are "fake" worlds. It was rejected. What do you think would staff decide about this topic, when chapter 5 drops, and would see execution of pretty obvious subversion by Toby?
"Getting cooked on Twitter doesn't mean you're wrong"

And the same applies on Vs Battles of all places. We have a reputation of being a laughing stock for a reason, I'm not worried about a thread rejecting what's stated verbatim in the game.


Hint: mantle games starts by Tenna proclaiming that everything in them is fiction > finishes by ERAM being able to kill Kris > mini Kris literally walking from the screen. Chapter 3 starts with Ralsei proclaiming everything in DWs as fake > chapter 4 ends with fight against supposedly fake being, threatening to annihilate world. What would you think final conclusion of this development would be?
I don't care enough to engage with your headcanon.
More about this here
Hold on, I forgot that WE already answered to question "Did events in DW actually happened".

Using a severely traumatized character's claim and our own response as we try to torture her as a valid argument is certainly a choice.

And it's also a terrible one since no one claimed the events didn't happen and that's the 5th time you're strawmmaning my argument, which is why I genuinely don't enjoy engaging with you.

There is always chance of several consistent tier 8 anti feats. And there is always a chance of bonker feats that would outweigh it
It's not happening, I don't care.
 
The fact this is having any resistance is honestly baffling.

"Here's 2140923570381709134789 inconsistencies in the magic system and unrealistic behavior on virtually all of them."

"Hmmmm... But Zapper and ******* BATTLE ANIMATION SCALING THO"
Change site standards on this if you want to.
"Getting cooked on Twitter doesn't mean you're wrong"

And the same applies on Vs Battles of all places. We have a reputation of being a laughing stock for a reason, I'm not worried about a thread rejecting what's stated verbatim in the game.
Doesn't relate at all to what I am trying to say.
I don't care enough to engage with your headcanon.
Do all seasoned powerscalers have this tendency of dismissing of basic narrative analysis as just headcanoning. I am not even using this analysis (it's not even mine) as argument, I am just asking you to think about what parallels, and telling you to expect Subversion of expectation in game made by Tricky Tony

Using a severely traumatized character's claim and our own response as we try to torture her as a valid argument is certainly a choice.
All objections to Toby Fox, who made whole alternative route (in a game where choices don't matter) where we traumatize teenager, and it's very important to plot
And it's also a terrible one since no one claimed the events didn't happen
So did it snow, or Berdly is just under one hell of placebo?
 
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Obviously, you can ignore everything above, if you want to. I am not arguing about stats, abilities or anything. I am just speculating about how future chapter would handle relationship between DW and LW
 
The fact this is having any resistance is honestly baffling.

"Here's 2140923570381709134789 inconsistencies in the magic system and unrealistic behavior on virtually all of them."

"Hmmmm... But Zapper and ******* BATTLE ANIMATION SCALING THO"


"Getting cooked on Twitter doesn't mean you're wrong"

And the same applies on Vs Battles of all places. We have a reputation of being a laughing stock for a reason, I'm not worried about a thread rejecting what's stated verbatim in the game.



I don't care enough to engage with your headcanon.


Using a severely traumatized character's claim and our own response as we try to torture her as a valid argument is certainly a choice.

And it's also a terrible one since no one claimed the events didn't happen and that's the 5th time you're strawmmaning my argument, which is why I genuinely don't enjoy engaging with you.


It's not happening, I don't care.

How fast you guys think the knight is ?
 
Change site standards on this if you want to.

Doesn't relate at all to what I am trying to say.
I don't care about what you're trying to say.

Do all seasoned powerscalers have this tendency of dismissing of basic narrative analysis as just headcanoning. I am not even using this analysis (it's not even mine) as argument, I am just asking you to think about what parallels, and telling you to expect Subversion of expectation in game made by Tricky Tony
"Tricky Tony"
"S-Subversion"

This is not basic narrative analysis, this is you drawing a conclusion based on what you THINK the story is going, and I genuinely couldn't care less.
So did it snow, or Berdly is just under one hell of placebo?

Point me to Berdly being literally frozen in the Light World and you have an argument. Otherwise, learn how to interpret text. Yes, the fact they went to the Dark World is true. You seem to have mysteriously forgotten that Noelle believes the DW stuff was a literal dream, which is a lie Susie told her.

Do all seasoned powerscalers have this tendency of dismissing information established by the own game or something?
 
Point me to Berdly being literally frozen in the Light World and you have an argument. Otherwise, learn how to interpret text. Yes, the fact they went to the Dark World is true. You seem to have mysteriously forgotten that Noelle believes the DW stuff was a literal dream, which is a lie Susie told her.

Do all seasoned powerscalers have this tendency of dismissing information established by the own game or something?
"He's breathing slowly. Might be your imagination, but he seems cold..." I mean, maybe
 
"He's breathing slowly. Might be your imagination, but he seems cold..." I mean, maybe
The difference in Berdly's temperature is so slim and barely noticeable that Kris even thinks it might be their imagination. Yet I'm supposed to believe the ice attack that made him almost die from hypothermia in the Dark World is literal.

And I'm somehow crazy for thinking it's not. Don't ever tag or quote me in Deltarune-related content again, I'm finishing my CRT.
 
The difference in Berdly's temperature is so slim and barely noticeable that Kris even thinks it might be their imagination. Yet I'm supposed to believe the ice attack that made him almost die from hypothermia in the Dark World is literal.
Hey, I'm just telling you it's pretty strongly implied it did make him cold, though not to the degree it did in the Dark World, obviously
Also I literally point this in my CRT, this is proof almost none of you read a single line from that before giving your 'two cents'
It feels like you also forgot you said that and went to check your CRT with that being your second message here
And I'm somehow crazy for thinking it's not. Don't ever tag or quote me in Deltarune-related content again, I'm finishing my CRT.
 
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