Whatever. I'll make a final tl;dr (almost) writeup and just end it here unless a mod replies.
Nihility's power has long been accepted to be the opposite of
existence. Capable of
erasing things from reality
as if they've never existed. It erases
cause and effect and fate. These scans are on IX's profile and they come from Acheron's power as both of them wield Nihility. Since Acheron can do those things, it's expected that IX (her source of power) can too.
Acheron's homeland was struck and affected by IX's Shadow and she eventually obliterated it with a
single slash mentioned
here as well. This slash erased it from the
memories of the world as if it never existed. Following this, Acheron was annihilated herself and sank into Nihility and started being erased. Acheron's
past is
gone in the sense that within the timeline, Izumo was erased from ever existing. This means that the causal chain between her origin and her existence has severed. Hence why it's been said that she "
isn't supposed to exist".
The people who went to explore what happened to it found ONLY traces of
Enigmata after its destruction hiding its history.
What OP is saying here
Another thing that disproves this is the history of Izumo, which is Acheron's home world. The relic set
thoroughly describes Izumo's history before it was destroyed meaning they have records of this place but they are confused on why it suddenly disappeared. The only one who knows what happened to it is
IX THEMSELVES since THEY were the one who destroyed it however IX doesnt speak so no one will ever find out. Other statements of Acheron not having a past are just characters saying "
she's hiding something" so its pretty unlikely her past just straight up doesnt exist.
is a misreading of the relic's description. The description is given to us by an omniscient narrator. Not an in-game character. Nobody else in-universe is aware of this history. There's no traces left of it hence why people wonder what actually happened to it and even question its
existence. IX technically knows what happened to it because they, passively, destroyed it. IX however being an apathetic,
uninteractive and stagnant Aeon who doesn't communicate with anyone, won't spit the answer out. Because it's sleeping. Not because it has a hidden agenda. It doesn't think. This belongs to Enigmata which is why they hid and manipulated all information surrounding Izumo.
1. Acheron doesnt show up in elio's script.
Acheron asked S.A.M if
she was in the script elio gave her and S.A.M says she didnt see anything about Acheron in the script. This would be a good case seeing that Elio can see
infinite possibilities, even possibilities of Aeons. The problem here is that
Elio never gives the full script as it would completely mess up his plan, So it’s far more likely that he simply didn’t give S.A.M. the full script, rather than Acheron somehow not appearing in it.
Acheron, because she is a temporal paradox, has no future. Elio who supposedly sees
all timelines and possibilities has
no trace of her anywhere.
The claim that the Hunters are not given their full scripts is not accurate. The scene is crucial piece of information about Acheron's existence and nature. There's no evidence that Firefly didn't have the full script at the time as we know that there's times when scripts are given to the Hunters with even the
last of the details being in
them. Claiming that FF didn't have the full script at that moment is speculative and frankly goes against the narrative of the scene whose point is to slowly reveal that Acheron is a self-annihilator. It's a pivotal point of the Penacony Arc. The question is very specific. She's asking about her future and Firefly answers her that she doesn't have one.
Acheron still remembers the old history exactly as it was, even though that version of it no longer exists anymore. Her own past stays intact in her memory and identity, while the world around her has moved onto a different history. So she ends up existing as proof of a reality that technically no longer exists. That's the basis of Acausality.
The point is that the world/history she originated from was consumed by Nihility when she became an Emanator destroying the causal continuity of her existence. Other people remembering Acheron’s actions does not disprove this in any case. Why would Acheron not be capable of interacting with the present timeline and leave observable effects? Nobody argued she became nonexistent or incapable of causally interacting with reality.
The entire point is that she survives after the destruction/consumption of the history and future connected to her world. She carries memories and continuity from something swallowed by Nihility.
The 3.8 memory segments happen after Acheron already became an Emanator and after the events involving Izumo/Takamagahara were consumed by Nihility. So using scenes from 3.8 to “prove her past still exists normally” makes no sense because those scenes are taking place after all of that already happened.
Only her origin point is gone, not her ongoing existence. The past that produced her was erased, but the “now” continues with her still inside it.
As for Passive Prob Manip, I am neutral as she doesn't have a predetermined future like other Pathstriders.
Lastly, nuking her Acausality 2 would affect IX's powers too since a lot of them are infered from how the obliteration of Izumo and herself erased the past and the future. And we are just not doing that for a number of reasons.
