Nah, if there's no explanation on how they did it besides it's seemly done through sheer speed, it can just be put in the speed section that they are MFTL+ (Of quite a high value, assuming it's a normal size universe of any finite length), but have the ability to somehow cross outside of the space-time continuum of the universe through there speed.
Frisk is immeasurable by outrunning it while still inside the space continuum.
Well I interpret the OP's wording of the character outrunning it by going outside the space time continuum. If the character in question outruns it, but is still seemingly never leaving the space time continuum then yes it's immeasurable speed.
So it's just a matter of if the character outruns it while also being inside the spacetime?
Yeah, outrunning it and not taking damage because well they never got touched by it.
I see. Makes sense. So they'd just have to be inside of it the entire time and not take damage from it? No exiting it at all in any capacity?
Yeah, like visually it'd look weird, but yeah that's pretty much it.
I see. Thanks!
Would you be kind enough to note this down in our speed page somewhere? With regards to dodging or outpacing explosions that encompass entire space-time continuums and bigger structures?
Will this effect Undertale's immeasurable speed rating?
Would need a CRT to be added. Guess I can make one later.
Isn't that already clear by the tiering faq?
Idk.
Staff thread you mean.
Apparently not. I have seen people claim that by being the size of multiple temporal dimensions (Like say, being a 4-D or a 5-D being bigger than a 4-D spacetime or a 5-D multiverse respectively) could get it, claiming that it would automatically involve traversing moving in multiple temporal dimensions. I guess we should clarify that as well.
I mean, there is a difference between being bigger than temporal dimensions and encompassing temporal dimensions. Although, I guess at the latter, we are technically more talking omnipresence.
Moreso talking about guys like these (This one is plain 4D, his face is larger than an infinite-sized spacetime continuum) and these (As big as a 5D Low 1-C Multiversal structure). People argued that because they are that large that they are bound to move across multiple temporal dimensions by virtue of their size alone, and thus, be Immeasurable.
It's basically Frisk dodging Asriel's timeline erasure
I mean, there are multiple non-omnipresent characters that are simply, physically bigger than a structure with a temporal dimension. Regardless of how we rate that, it would be good to have a consistent stated standard on it. The FAQ does a good job with it but I don't think there's a good enough demarcation between the Bulk Beings and any character who can physically hold a timeline like a marble.
That's impossible even with immeasurable speed.
Funny, I was in the middle of writing it.
Just spatial size alone should do nothing. If they occupy time, then as said.
So, would adding something like this at the end of the FAQ section be enough?
I was going off prior precedents when I posted that, and a feat granting immeasurable speed vs immeasurable speed can do that are two different scenarios (Like how just having immeasurable speed won't allow you to dodge temporal omnipresence, though some characters gained immeasurable speed because they have that feat).
@Executor_N0 @Planck69 @Elizhaa @LephyrTheRevanchist @Qawsedf234 @Maverick_Zero_X @Just a Random Butler This look alright to you?
Yeah I have no issues with it
Looks alright yeah
Depends on how they outrun it.
