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Invincible Season 4 General Discussion Thread

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That's a pretty wide margin...
The High 6-A stuff is just for a the very initial scene of them entering the planet but the parts of the feat we've already established they scale to varies from 5-B to Low 4-C, I heard that it could get to like baseline 4-B if you take into account Space Racer's Gun causing the star to go supernova as opposed to just destroying it violently but idk.
Femboy and furry, holy...

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I don't see myself as a furry but sure lol
Also Viltrum only stated to be jacked in comparison to earth nothing about it compared to Stars
It makes upscaling the planet based off of the big star busting feat from space racer's gun more reasonable
So someone went ahead with a TV Atom Eve profile and it's already scaling her to S1 Mark and Conquest .-.
This profile is ass, Eve is shown to kinda do nothing against Invincible tier opponents. She has some like 8-B feats in her special, kill canon has an 8-B and hypersonic feat too and Doc Seismic making an Earthquake in s1 is like Low 7-C. I've calced some of this stuff off site but I haven't posted anything here yet. I think these would be a good baseline to go off of.
Also there's no signs at all the she becomes massively stronger throughout the show unlike Mark
tbf she did start taking classes to improve the use of her powers in I think s3 but it was architecture so...
Titan does not scale to season 1 Mark and using his feats against Battle Beast is pretty bad justification imo. At this point just upscale him to <Season 4 Mark level> since he survived punches from an enraged Mark or <Battle Beast level> for the feats you used to scale him above s1 Mark.
 
Titan does not scale to season 1 Mark and using his feats against Battle Beast is pretty bad justification imo. At this point just upscale him to <Season 4 Mark level> since he survived punches from an enraged Mark or <Battle Beast level> for the feats you used to scale him above s1 Mark.
He couldn't even fight back against Enraged S4 Mark, and I specifically note Casual Battle Beast for the exact reason of an even half-way serious BB treating Enraged S1 Mark like this.

And at some point I have to take the consistent option, and Titan doesn't ******* die to getting beat the **** up by 7-As or people holding back to 7-A a lot more times than he would at all scale to Viltrumite-level. I like Titan but saying he's sniffing the asshole of any Viltrumite-tier character is the equivalent of sniffing glue and I won't even give him a higher for surviving S4 Mark. It's just an outlier. And he's got no feats outside of that or fighting with and against S1 Mark.
 
He couldn't even fight back against Enraged S4 Mark, and I specifically note Casual Battle Beast for the exact reason of an even half-way serious BB treating Enraged S1 Mark like this.

And at some point I have to take the consistent option, and Titan doesn't ******* die to getting beat the **** up by 7-As or people holding back to 7-A a lot more times than he would at all scale to Viltrumite-level. I like Titan but saying he's sniffing the asshole of any Viltrumite-tier character is the equivalent of sniffing glue and I won't even give him a higher for surviving S4 Mark. It's just an outlier. And he's got no feats outside of that or fighting with and against S1 Mark.
He shouldn't even be scaling to Season 1 Mark in the first place. If we use his feats against machine head's goons then literally every guardian including people like duplikate would be 7-A which is completely stupid. We know characters can hold back to up to about human level considering Mark was holding back to the level of a normal dude against Dropkick and Fightmaster in season 3, so saying BB was specifically holding back to 7-A is just dumb. I'd rather take everything regarding BB in that fight as outlier. Also using his scuffle with Mark on day 1 does not make any sense. Mark low diffed him without knowing at all what he was doing and not trying his hardest, you cannot tell me Mark was moving the same speed flying towards titan as he was when flying Allen into the Moon and that their scuffle makes Titan scale to him in any capacity.
 
He shouldn't even be scaling to Season 1 Mark in the first place. If we use his feats against machine head's goons then literally every guardian including people like duplikate would be 7-A which is completely stupid.
Maybe they do, considering a struggling Mark couldn't break out of Tether Tyrant's Tethers, and then both Tether Tyrant and Kursk survive hits from a Bloodlusted S1 Mark. Maybe don't make Mark 7-A if you don't want people to be 7-A man, even the ******' Mauler Twins are scaling to S1 Mark's 7-A, above it actually.
We know characters can hold back to up to about human level considering Mark was holding back to the level of a normal dude against Dropkick and Fightmaster in season 3,
Some do, but not all the time, especially not bloodlusted characters.
so saying BB was specifically holding back to 7-A is just dumb.

Me when I'm not holding back to 7-A (Definitely not a 7-A he's hitting, right?)
I'd rather take everything regarding BB in that fight as outlier.
So, what isn't an outlier, Fusion? If ya want you can downgrade Season 1 Mark to 8-C or something I dunno, but as it stands right now he's 7-A solid and people take hits from his 7-A ass while he's bloodlusted, and in fact are not incapped and are up and ready to go literal seconds later.
Also using his scuffle with Mark on day 1 does not make any sense. Mark low diffed him without knowing at all what he was doing and not trying his hardest, you cannot tell me Mark was moving the same speed flying towards titan as he was when flying Allen into the Moon and that their scuffle makes Titan scale to him in any capacity.
I'm not the one who wrote the story, and I'm not the one who made Season 1 Mark 7-A and Relativistic. Not my circus not my monkeys I'm just scaling based on current stuff and judging outliers when I see them, and consistent Mark scaling ain't an outlier.
 
Tether Tyrant's Tethers, and then both Tether Tyrant and Kursk survive hits from a Bloodlusted S1 Mark.
Dude, Tether Tyrant proceeds to get defeated by Shrinking Rae. And Kursk gets completely overpowered by industrial tubes. This is the main reason Mark had Rage Power removed in the first place (which was using this scene as justification), these guys clearly don't scale to him at all
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And he's got no feats outside of that or fighting with and against S1 Mark.
In fact, he's got antifeats like regular gunfire chipping away his armor. And going back to Tether Tyrant, being overwhelmed by regular GDA agents
Maybe don't make Mark 7-A if you don't want people to be 7-A man, even the ******' Mauler Twins are scaling to S1 Mark's 7-A, above it actually
That actually make sense for the Maulers as they are regular GoTG villains
Bump? Asking for other opinions on this profile.
I for a fact know the other guy making a Titan profile would disagree lol
 
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Dude, Tether Tyrant proceeds to gets defeated by Shrinking Rae. And Kursk gets completely overpowered by industrial tubes.
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Making Shrinking Rae is 7-A then. Like I said, if you don't want people scaling to 7-A, don't have a 7-A who, while pissed and screaming that everyone is ******* dead, throws hands with and doesn't outright kill them.

As for the industrial tube thing... bro those are the sort of anti-feats that happen constantly, even for other characters.
In fact, he's got antifeats like regular gunfire chipping away his armor.
Yeah and his skin no-sells the big gun in that scene.
And going back to Tether Tyrant, being overwhelmed by regular GDA agents
It's also the GDA. They beat a couple of the Invincible variants, they're allowed to have higher-end shit.
That actually make sense for the Maulers as they are regular GoTG villains
I mean I have opinions on the OG guardians scaling but hey.
Also Titan scaling even to S1 Mark was rejected here
Ehhh yes and no on me agreeing with that
 
Though, this has me thinking on a CRT to make on Season 1 Mark...
 
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Yeah, that doesn't work with a series with scaling as loose as this one.
What argument could you even make for that ? Rex, Kate and Rae stay on Earth instead of fighting the sequids because everyone else, including Robot's orange amor, is much more durable than them
Well said CRT is actually gonna include a "Because Mark's main feat is so far above everyone else, and he gets bloodlusted on occasion, he's a walking inconsistency so scale nobody to him."
 
Not even Allen ? 🤔
I'll probably note Allen as an exception because "What other scaling does he have?". Otherwise it's going to include Option A) A lot of people start scaling to 7-A, or Option B) all arguments for people scaling to season 1 Mark and nipped in the bud beyond Mr. does nothing else.
 
I'll probably note Allen as an exception because "What other scaling does he have?". Otherwise it's going to include Option A) A lot of people start scaling to 7-A, or Option B) all arguments for people scaling to season 1 Mark and nipped in the bud beyond Mr. does nothing else.
Where'd Option A leave the Maulers, and Kid Oliver for that matter, and Red Rush to an extent ?
 
Where'd Option A leave the Maulers, and Kid Oliver for that matter, and Red Rush to an extent ?
In short? Massively upscaling the current 8-C ratings. Since Titan would certainly end up in the 8-C crowd and his armor isn't bullet proof, the fact the Maulers are makes them heavily upscale from the normal 8-Cs, even if they didn't have multiple feats of beating the living **** out of them. Oliver would just be upscaling from the Maulers for obvious reasons.
 
As for the industrial tube thing... bro those are the sort of anti-feats that happen constantly, even for other characters.
Also you agree those are industrial tubes ? I wanted to get Red Rush bending them calculated for an LS upgrade but was told they probably weren't which would make Kursk look even worse
I don't see myself as a furry but sure lol
Didn't deny the first part
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Also you agree those are industrial tubes ? I wanted to get Red Rush bending them calculated for an LS upgrade but was told they probably weren't which would make Kursk look even worse
Red Rush should have them calced for the simple reason that he only has superhuman LS on his profile otherwise.

Also I dunno what they are, that should be decided and used

Ahywho, I finished my CRT
 
Dude, Tether Tyrant proceeds to get defeated by Shrinking Rae. And Kursk gets completely overpowered by industrial tubes. This is the main reason Mark had Rage Power removed in the first place (which was using this scene as justification), these guys clearly don't scale to him at all
He's Tether Tyrant not Face and Throat Tyrant
 
I wouldn't mind getting rid of the Eve profile for the time being
 
Eve's fine but Mark's profile is a bit bloated, we don't need to have two yellow suit images that are identical, a more damaged blue suit image, him being covered in blood that one time like cmon. A lot of the less notable looks than his main ones can just go to a gallery section
 
Where are you guys pulling these images of Mark in the same pose in different conditions? I don't remember Mark pausing time during the Conquest fight to do a photoshoot
 
Eve's fine but Mark's profile is a bit bloated, we don't need to have two yellow suit images that are identical, a more damaged blue suit image, him being covered in blood that one time like cmon. A lot of the less notable looks than his main ones can just go to a gallery section
I'm in agreement with this, if one or two other people think so as well I will undo the edits.
 
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