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After nearly a year in the works, my Thor readthrough is completed, indexed, and processed. I'm hoping that this exhaustive, comprehensive readthrough will serve as the standard for the character's profile for the foreseeable future, as it takes into account thousands of scans of feats, antifeats, statements, and variability mechanics that I gathered over a nine-month reading period and organized across a month and a half of analysis. It's not at all practical to do this for every character on the wiki, but here it is for Thor!
Thor variability (all versions): User blog:NaturalDestroyer/Thor Variability and Stats
Edit: Herald of None Thor should also be 1-A, given how he's an amped version of the same Incomplete Allfather Thor that took hits from an amped Galactus and overpowered that same Galactus in a beam struggle.
BLOGS THAT MUST BE READ IN ORDER FOR THIS CRT TO MAKE SENSE
Google Doc version (click at your own risk but it's far better formatted) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bkyc6GvDLXGewGVXCnMBm8f3reLu01sXdH9ggQFihX8/edit?tab=t.0Thor variability (all versions): User blog:NaturalDestroyer/Thor Variability and Stats
- TLDR: Thor holds back immensely in the vast majority of his fights, and limits himself both subconsciously and consciously unless fighting against beings he perceives as able to handle his true godly power. He also never uses his full power when civilians are in the area. No character should scale to him unless it's abundantly clear that Thor is actually going all-out in their fight.
- Nobody should have 5-B or 3-C for battling Thor, and both the 3-C and High 3-A keys should be removed from his profile. As demonstrated in the above blog, it is not statistically consistent for Thor to actually struggle with opponents in those tiers when he's using his full power (Durability success rates are 87% for 5-B and 92% for High 3-A, with Attack Potency success rates at 98.3% for 5-B and 96% for High 3-A). Instances of failure at those levels should either be ignored as serious outliers or give those characters a "Low 1-A at peak" key if Thor consistently struggles with them when he is known not to be holding back.
- ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL FOR WORTHY THOR: "At least High 3-A. Low 1-A to 1-A at full power"
- Worthy Thor's tiering should be "At least High 3-A. Low 1-A to 1-A with God Blast, Phoenix Force, and at full power". If you read (at least the summary of) the blog, you'll notice that base Thor has a 96% success-of-damaging rate against opponents in the Low 1-A bracket, and 100% in the 1-A bracket. At Low 1-A and up, he has 270+ successful fights and/or explicit feats spread between Attack Power and Durability, far more examples overall than High 3-A.
- Thor's AP section should read something like "At least High Universe level (Defeated an eagle whose wings were the source of all wind in the Nine Realms. Held back against an amped Silver Surfer and easily destroyed his forcefield once he started taking it seriously, with Norrin shocked by his power. Wounded Thor fought evenly with post-Annihilation Silver Surfer, and an enraged Thor overpowered both Adam Warlock and pre-Annihilation Silver Surfer, including when Norrin was no longer holding back. Shook the heavens with the mightiest blow in a thousand eternities. Stomped bloodlusted future Gladiator when he stopped holding back, and oneshot Gabriel Air-Walker upon realizing he wasn't a living person. Capable of easily overpowering Hyperion once he begins to use more strength. Beta Ray Bill, who only has a portion of Thor's power, shook the universe in his fight against Stardust. Enraged Thor oneshot Power Gem Drax). Low Outerverse level (Created to far surpass Odin by his very nature. Weakened Thor overpowered the cosmic storms surrounding Asgard. Created a storm that reached Earth from Asgard. Fought Millennius, who was stronger than Odin. Shook the Nine Realms while battling Jormungand. Odin felt it necessary to use the Destroyer Armor combined with the Odinsword to take down an enraged Thor. Caused more damage to Skyfather Hercules than the entire Council of Godheads. Fought Glory, a pantheon of ten thousand alien gods. His anger was felt across all the Nine Realms. Overpowers Perrikus, who defeated Odin. Repeatedly matched and defeated Mephisto in his own realm. Fought against Twilight Sword Hela and repeatedly matched or overpowered her base in her own realm) to Outerverse level at peak or with God Blast (Far stronger than his Unworthy self, who could damage the Universal Phoenix. Enraged Thor was a grave danger to a large portion of universal Eternity and Infinity. Knocked out the Universal Phoenix with a strike from Mjolnir. The Stranger admitted that a bloodlusted Thor could be a problem for him. Four God Blasts temporarily held back the collapse of dimensional walls resulting from a mortal wound to Universal Eternity. Superior to enraged Eric Masterson and Dargo Ktor, whose clash fully powered a machine that could collapse infinite timelines. Absorbing Thor would "add immeasurably" to the power of the Other, who could match Scrier and fully-fed Galactus in a battle that would bring all of reality back to Oblivion. Multiversal Oblivion acknowledged Thor's power as impressive, describing it as "beyond comprehension". Blasted through Chaos King's torso with a lightning bolt. Punched through the torso of Onslaught with Franklin Richards' powers. Overpowered the combined power of Yggdrasil and the World Engine, and all existence would have been destroyed if he'd failed, with Yggdrasil as the only entity strong enough to strip Doctor Strange of his powers, and even a fragment of Yggdrasil's power being more magic than Strange had ever felt before. Skurge being freed from Yggdrasil would free him from Eternity itself and destroy all creation in the process), Outerverse level with the Phoenix Force (Channeled the Phoenix Force to hold back the tide of the First Firmament, which would have consumed all of creation in an omniversal wave of destruction)
- Thor's Durability section is currently bare-bones. It should be changed to "At least High Universe level (A direct hit from Stormbreaker barely stunned him. No-sold blasts from Power Gem Drax. Took hits from bloodlusted Firelord. Took a blast of unlimited energy. Wounded Thor was unharmed by an impact that injured post-Annihilation Silver Surfer. Shrugged off attacks from Servitors that oneshot Quasar). Low Outerverse level (Withstood the cosmic force of Asgard’s universe while at half strength. Serious Thor withstood multiple merciless attacks from the Fourth Host of Celestials. Took multiple hits from Millennius, who was notably stronger than Odin, and fought him on fairly even footing before being overpowered. Withstood his own lightning turned against him. Tanked attacks from Perrikus, who's stronger than Odin. Tanked being submerged in Exitar's bleeding energies. Endured fighting while inside of Surtur's essence. Takes hits from bloodlusted Kurse, who normally is twice as strong as he is. Withstood multiple hits from bloodlusted Odin. Tanked flames that would kill any other god) to Outerverse level at peak (Endured multiple blasts from bloodlusted Amora the Enchantress, who inflicted a wound on Yggdrasil that threatened to destroy all of creation across every reality and defeated Nightmare in his own realm while weakened. Amora required significant prep time to create a spell capable of taking down Thor. Took hits from Gorr in a fight that made the World Tree bleed. Remained conscious after a blast from the universal Phoenix Force, although was overpowered. When depowered and robbed of the Allpower, tanked a flurry of attacks from M.Y.T.H.O.S., who had the full power of Yggdrasil. Unharmed by energy blasts that Doctor Strange had previously stated to threaten all of reality)."
- P&A additions for Worthy Thor:
- Resistance to Phasing https://imgchest.com/p/na7k2palm78
- Memory Erasure https://imgchest.com/p/xny8rneap4b ; https://imgchest.com/p/o24ad96jd4l
- Paralysis Inducement https://imgchest.com/p/dl7prp8284o
- Who/what scales to Worthy Thor's Low 1-A values that would need to be changed?
- Sentry (justification on profile)
- True adamantium Ultron (justification on profile)
- Thanos (justification on profile)
- Ego (justification on profile, a God Blast would only stun him)
- The Destroyer (justification on profile)
- Mangog (justification on profile)
- Jormungand (justification on profile)
- Cap's protoadamantium shield
- Gorr's base (fought Worthy Thor and spawned Black Berserkers comparable to him)
- Hulk's higher ends
- Juggernaut's forcefields at max strength
The Beyonder(both Cosmic Cube keys) given how Doom with the Beyonder's powers was able to easily kill Thor in the original Secret Wars (likely outlier)Angelawith weaponry for being able to harm base Thor in Original Sin
- Unworthy Thor's tier should be "Varies according to emotional state. 5-B at his weakest. High 3-A normally, Low 1-A to 1-A at peak".
- His AP section should read: "Varies according to emotional state. Planet level at his weakest (Overpowered Proxima Midnight. Easily defeated Apocalypse once his Celestial tech was nullified, and overpowered a fully-hydrated Namor offscreen. His raw power could have destroyed the world while in the womb), High Universe level normally (Had an edge over Hercules while holding back. Matched and injured berserk Robbie Reyes Ghost Rider. Singlehandedly stomped the armies of Heven and shocked Angela with his power), Low Outerverse level to Outerverse level at peak (Bit out Gorr's eye, sliced off his arm, and fought him for an extended period. Caused Mangog pain with his lightning. Defeated the brother of Jormungand and Nidhogg in a battle that lasted hours. Easily overpowered Jarnbjorn-metal Absorbing Man. Defeated Odin after an extended fight, and overpowered Fenris, who was prophesied to kill Odin. His lightning alongside Jane's Mother Storm was able to injure the Universal Phoenix. Shook the entire World Tree and every realm on its branches as a baby, and was considered an even match for Amora, Loki, and Creel combined when his morals were removed).
- His durability section should read: "Varies according to emotional state. Planet level at his weakest (Took hits from Celestial armor Apocalypse, although it nearly killed him. When exhausted and deeply depressed, withstood a beating from Ulik, and later withstood but was bloodied by Proxima Midnight's energy lance). High Universe level normally (Took hits from berserk Robbie Reyes, who was the strongest Ghost Rider. Withstood multiple blows from the strongest Juggernaut ever). Low Outerverse to Outerverse level at peak (Took hits from Symbiote Malekith, who could harm Old King Thor. Bloodlusted Thor took hits from Worthy Loki. Quickly recovered from a blast from a Final Host Celestial. Withstood the energy of the Mother Storm that melted his uru arm. Withstood the flames of the Universal Phoenix. Was considered an even match for Amora, Loki, and Creel combined when his morals were removed).
- His speed section should say "Varies, up to Infinite combat and reaction speed (Should be roughly comparable to his Worthy self. While serious, fought evenly against Angela, who's faster than thought)."
- Who scales to peak/bloodlusted Unworthy Thor who doesn't already:
- Amadeus Cho at peak (overpowered a bloodlusted Unworthy Thor, although they were fairly relative, and was unharmed by Jarnbjorn)
- Devil Hulk (shocked Unworthy Thor with his power, although it's unlikely that Thor was bloodlusted here. Thoughts on whether this is usable or not?)
He was once overpowered by an amped Namor, although they only fought once and I don't know if Namor retained his amp after that issue. Additionally, Thor didn't appear to be bloodlusted here. I recommend that it be ignored due to uncertainty.Savage She-Hulk(potentially, for withstanding Ymir's cold that Unworthy Thor couldn't. This might also just be Cold Resistance)Potentially Juggernaut at peak, although this could potentially create some circular scaling issues by changing one of Unworthy Thor's High 3-A justifications to Low 1-AAngela (fought evenly with Unworthy Thor when both were bloodlusted)- Summary: Peak Amadeus (morals off) and Devil Hulk scale.
- AP: "Varies according to the Allsleep. At least Low Outerverse level (Far stronger than his base even while only beginning to inherit the Allpower. Created a blast of lightning heard across all the Ten Realms and his thunder shook the pillars of the Ten Realms. Dents the Destroyer with his bare hands. Fought and held an edge over King of Hell Johnny Blaze), Outerverse level at full power (Fought and held his own against Dark Phoenix Mystique. Fought one of the Three Mothers, who terrified Doctor Strange with their power, and oneshot a demon that Strange couldn't handle. Overpowered a massively amped Galactus in a beam struggle and injured him, forcibly taking the Power Cosmic from him. Capable of killing the universal Phoenix).
- Durability: "Varies according to the Allsleep. At least Low Outerverse level (Took repeated hits from God of Hammers Mjolnir, who had the combined power of Mangog and the God Tempest. Fought evenly with Merged Sentry. Took and blocked hits from a vibranium-enhanced Destroyer Killmonger. Shrugged off attacks from King of Hell Johnny Blaze), Outerverse level at full power (Withstood attacks from Dark Phoenix Mystique. Tanked attacks from a massively amped Galactus. Pained by but withstood an attack from Nightmare. Created a vortex that Reed Richards stated no force on Earth could break through. Fought Shang-Chi amped by a Cosmic Cube).
- Speed: "Varies, at least MFTL+ , Infinite to Immeasurable at peak (faster than his base)"
- Lifting Strength: "Pre-stellar normally, Immeasurable at peak (stronger than his base)"
- Who scales to Incomplete Allfather Thor (At least Low 1-A, possibly 1-A):
- AP: "Varies according to the Allsleep. At least Low Outerverse level (Far stronger than before. Stomped God of Hammers Mjolnir, who overwhelmed his Incomplete Allpower self. Stomped an amped Perrikus when he stops holding back. Was the strongest god that Desak had ever fought, with Desak shown to be comparable to Galactus and capable of easily killing Zeus in a vision. It took the entire Pantheon Elite to match Thor's Allpower. Overpowered Thanos. Severely damaged the Celestial Hulkbuster. Doom amped by the souls of multiple Skyfathers couldn't stop him. Taking down an army of warriors with Mjolnir clones would be easy for the Allpower) to Outerverse level (Upon regaining his worthiness, one-shot Designate-amped Destroyer Desak, who was comparable to Galactus in base. At least equal to Living Darkhold Wanda and Nightmare. Broke out of Gaea's restraints and decapitated her. Helped destroy Somnia's tree, which full-power Nightmare couldn't do on his own. Physically overpowered Toranos with his wind. Thor's fight against Starship Hulk was stated by the Watcher to be the greatest battle any world had ever known. WoG strongly implied that the Thorforce could have easily defeated Thanos with three Infinity Stones. Easily overpowered the Order half of the In-Betweener. Severely overpowered Hellnir Meridius, who should be at least as strong as full-power Knull), possibly High Outerverse level (1 layer) at peak (Regarded to be an even match for amped Nyx at night on Earth. Overpowered Reborn Zeus, who was stated by WoG to be an even greater danger than full-power Nyx in the Dark Cold Room and easily withstood her attacks. Bloodlusted Thor holding nothing back single-handedly defeated NRGL and Mejed, with Utgard gods being primordial concepts as above the Aesir as Aesir are above mortals, and regular gods being only shadows of a story cast by the Elder Gods. Knocked down and bloodied Kemur, the greatest of the Elder Gods. Kemur should be superior to Utgard-Loki, who casually created a realm in the Mystery that transcended Multi-Eternity, and Utgard-Loki overpowered Loki's magic that was potent enough to keep full-power Nyx trapped)."
- Dura: "Varies according to the Allsleep. At least Low Outerverse level (Far stronger than before. Withstood the ultimate disintegration blast of the strongest Destroyer he'd ever seen. Shrugged off a blow from Thanos. Unharmed by attacks from an amped Perrikus that damaged his armor. Tanked an attack no other god had ever survived, was unharmed by a gamma blast that destroyed Celestial battle armor, and tanked a blast from Destroyer Desak that reduced Sorcerer Supreme Loki to a skeleton) to Outerverse level (Equal to Living Darkhold Wanda and Nightmare. Withstood Bor's full strength, which was greater than anything he had ever felt before. Took attacks from Hellnir Meridius and fought a Dark-Phoenix-possessed version of himself), possibly High Outerverse level (1 layer) at peak (Withstood the full force of Reborn Zeus' power, who was an even greater danger than amped Nyx. Took multiple hits from Kemur, the greatest of the Elder Gods. Regarded as an even match for Nyx, who had "recovered all of her power and more" and was repeatedly stated to be at the height of her power)
- Speed: "Varies, at least MFTL+ , Infinite to Immeasurable at peak (faster than his base. Matched and outsped Thanos in combat. While heavily weakened, fought a speedster that Sorcerer Supreme Loki couldn't even see. Casually flew from Asgard to Midgard without the Bifrost)."
- Lifting Strength: "Pre-stellar normally, Infinite to Immeasurable at peak (stronger than his base, who could physically overpower the entirety of Yggdrasil. Casually lifted a book of infinite pages)."
- Who scales to Complete Allpower Thor: Hulk at peak. Alabaster of the Ashen Combine if she ever gets a profile. Darkforce Blade if he ever gets a profile. I'm not sure that anyone scales to the High 1-A end for Thor, though, except for possibly peak and Worthy Hulk.
Edit: Herald of None Thor should also be 1-A, given how he's an amped version of the same Incomplete Allfather Thor that took hits from an amped Galactus and overpowered that same Galactus in a beam struggle.
- Intelligence: Genius, possibly Extraordinary Genius (Despite his usual tendency to charge head-first into battle, Thor is a veteran warrior with thousands of years of experience and can match the universe's most skilled warriors. He can use portals in combat and carefully calculate trajectories of obstacles thrown by his enemies to protect innocents. His skill in battle is without equal in Asgard, allowing him to break through Man Beast's martial arts that were a million years more advanced than anything on Earth and defeat an Asgardian-demon hybrid that had never lost a fight. Thor can devise plans that can fool even his most cunning foes when the situation calls for it, such as Loki or Malekith the Accursed. He is also a highly skilled medical doctor and retains all of Donald Blake's knowledge, including the comprehension of how to create living beings from raw molecules. Thor speaks every language and dialect on Earth as well as countless alien languages, and knows every tree and pillar in the Nine Realms. He's also a decent cook)
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