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Overwatch General Discussion Thread

Let's see if Illari's Solar Rifle matches the requirements for speed of light:

  • The beams were never shown reflecting off any materials.
  • The beams are never stated to move at the speed of light
It is stated to be the speed of light, it is literally sunlight
And now what criterias disqualify it for it being SoL

Explosions and force no longer disqualify lightspeed, this was changed a few months ago
 
It stops being a disqualifier when it matches radiation pressure, otherwise its a red flag for it being lightspeed
It is not no, it has not been as such for almost a year now, i would know, i was there for the discussion
 
Does anyone have a scan of Widowmaker physically trading blows with Winston as mentioned in her profile?
Nope, cause that's one of multiple things that were just complete lies.

Damn, she really wrestled with him... completely off-screen... and her sniper rounds are annoyances to his armor... and he ragdolls Reaper physically...

Yeah Widowmaker is just one of those characters I didn't rework cause I have no interest in her character. If I got around to it I'd definitely just be scaling her to Tracer

Side note, Reaper would stomp Vendetta in a versus thread, and so would Moira, which is really funny
 
Widow scales to Tracer, other than that she's basically featless
In what way does she scale to Tracer? She's unable to tag Tracer when she's using her blink. As far as I know, Tracer isn't super fast outside of her blink.

Widowmaker only physically harmed Tracer by pushing her back into a wall, though this is largely due to the momentum she gained by swinging on her grappling hook
 
In what way does she scale to Tracer? She's unable to tag Tracer when she's using her blink. As far as I know, Tracer isn't super fast outside of her blink.

Widowmaker only physically harmed Tracer by pushing her back into a wall, though this is largely due to the momentum she gained by swinging on her grappling hook
Widow also withstands being tackled by Tracer with absolutely no issues or pain to show for it. Also, Tracer can still keep up with Genji. Like, she's not some slow MFer without her blinks, she can still keep up with the guy who reflects yes. She's just aided majorly by her teleports.
 
In what way does she scale to Tracer? She's unable to tag Tracer when she's using her blink. As far as I know, Tracer isn't super fast outside of her blink.
Blink is literally teleportation and even one of the god tiers of the verse cant fully keep up with it and needs to predict where she would be. Outside of her blink, Tracer still has some bullet timing and explosion reacting feats
Widowmaker only physically harmed Tracer by pushing her back into a wall, though this is largely due to the momentum she gained by swinging on her grappling hook
She literally kicks away Tracer, twice
 
Widow also withstands being tackled by Tracer with absolutely no issues or pain to show for it. Also, Tracer can still keep up with Genji. Like, she's not some slow MFer without her blinks, she can still keep up with the guy who reflects yes. She's just aided majorly by her teleports.
How strong are Tracer's tackles? She only tagged Genji by teleporting behind him. Genji is able to react to this, it doesn't necessarily mean she scales to him in terms of combat speed

Outside of her blink, Tracer still has some bullet timing and explosion reacting feats

She literally kicks away Tracer, twice
I'm pretty sure the only bullet timing feat she has only scales to reactions/perception and not movement or combat speed.

In the first scan, she's not visibly hurt by it and the second scan is a retelling of what happened at the end of the Alive short, which is the same grappling hook feat I mentioned above
 
How strong are Tracer's tackles? She only tagged Genji by teleporting behind him. Genji is able to react to this, it doesn't necessarily mean she scales to him in terms of combat speed
Town to city level
I'm pretty sure the only bullet timing feat she has only scales to reactions/perception and not movement or combat speed.

In the first scan, she's not visibly hurt by it and the second scan is a retelling of what happened at the end of the Alive short, which is the same grappling hook feat I mentioned above
Tracer has multiple FTL reaction feats as well as a MFTL speed feat
 
I noticed that basically every character scales to Hypersonic due to Genji's feat, which makes 0 sense because why does everyone scale to a character who is fast enough to casually deflect all their shots?
 
Why would they even fire projectiles that are like moving in slow motion compared to everyone else in the cast? They wouldn't be able to tag anyone
As soldier says in one of his elimination quotes: "Aim where they're going, not where they are"
 
They can keep up with a character who is so much faster than them that he can casually block dozens of their projectiles??
Well yes. He’s Hypersonic+ in R/C speeds, and since everyone is able to contend alongside or against him then they obviously also scale from him. Plus other characters have grounds for HS+ Travel Speed or more (Mercy, Tracer..)
 
As soldier says in one of his elimination quotes: "Aim where they're going, not where they are"
That would still be extremely easy to dodge. Genji is calced at being around 2x faster than Bastion's bullet, which means characters comparable to him would see every projectile coming at them in what's basically slow mo.

At that speed, the only way to get tagged by a projectile would be getting caught off guard, or being like less than a meter away from the muzzle
 
Here. It’s probably the most lackluster calc I ever did 😭
I don't think that's enough to prove she came from above the clouds. Even if the rays started travelling from the clouds, Mercy doesn't have to be travelling from the same height (why would she even be up there lol)
 
I don't think that's enough to prove she came from above the clouds. Even if the rays started travelling from the clouds, Mercy doesn't have to be travelling from the same height (why would she even be up there lol)
Mercy in her short story(at least the one I read) did actually tend to fly quite high in the Valkyrie suit... also, she's the only one who makes golden light like that.
 
Mercy in her short story(at least the one I read) did actually tend to fly quite high in the Valkyrie suit... also, she's the only one who makes golden light like that.
How high? And yeah I know she makes the light but I don't think that confirms that she was standing at the same height, she could have summoned the light from above her body
 
How high?
High enough to completely avoid detection in an active warzone while Morrison does Morrison things. Never specified, but she does have a history of flying high.
And yeah I know she makes the light but I don't think that confirms that she was standing at the same height, she could have summoned the light from above her body
Something she's definitely never shown to THAT scale.
 
Just calced her flight speed that is shown on screen, like her actually flying down from what we see and its about 52 m/s
 
Just calced her flight speed that is shown on screen, like her actually flying down from what we see and its about 52 m/s
If she descended at 4000 m/s without slowing down she would’ve probably gotten splashed on the ground so…
 
I mean she's also never shown to have hypersonic+ flight speed or that much range with her light on other occasions too? I don't think we can know for sure if it did emanate from the clouds anyways
Piercing light rays coming from the clouds when she’s the one that the light emanates from..pretty sure she had to be near the clouds for that to happen. I’ve explained why it’s likely she was in mid-high clouds as there was almost no refraction.
 
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