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Fairy Tail 100 Year Quest Discussion Thread: Post-Void Saga

Anchor is actually showing a pretty surprising amount of variety with his abilities. Water pressure, transmutation, sealing, poison water, etc. He's also continuing to control the flow of the battle. Big brain Juvia play as well

Some more Earth Build showings, nothing too crazy, but he put DF Wendy and SDM Lucy on their asses quick

The biggest wtf moment is whatever is happening with Natsu right now. I thought it was Igneel talking to him, but he'd definitely recognize Igneel's voice, so it's gotta be someone else
 
DailyFairy said:
Mashima really just decided to wake up an troll his fandom again 😭

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Natsu can sadly only go all out against enemies, not his friends

The one weakness of the power of friendship is that you can't use it to prove why you're so much stronger than them by beating their ass
 
For anyone looking for a more indepth translation of Hiro's take on Natsu's power in relation to Erza, Laxus, and Gildarts
 
I will also point out Hiro said that the dynamic of Regular Natsu<Erza, Laxus, and Gildarts only "might" still apply in 100YQ and that Natsu might not be able to beat Laxus. What this essentially means is that while Hiro doesn't think Natsu can beat them, he never outright said he would lose or is weaker.

So Regular Natsu ~ Erza, Laxus, Gildarts, but when serious and using transformations and emotion boosts, he far above
 
DailyFairy said:
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DailyFairy said:
Don't really see what this changes since he did this same thing to happy and Makarov isn't part of the statement at hand lol
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You say that he can't use his power on his friends, while demonstrating the exact opposite opinion by using one of the strongest spells in his arsenal, not even on the strongest unit.
 
Campo1uc said:
You say that he can't use his power on his friends, while demonstrating the exact opposite opinion by using one of the strongest spells in his arsenal, not even on the strongest unit.
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I nor Mitch said that. The claim was that he cannot go all out against his Guildmates, which showing him beating Makarov, who is not part of the statement Mashima made, is not a point of evidence against that. Especially when it is very obvious Natsu isn't going at anywhere near his full power, and proceeds to one shot Makarov
 
Natsu's power is inherently very variable depending on his mood and emotional state. He's a lot like the Hulk in that regard. We see this constantly throughout the series and it is outright stated several times.

As early as Phantom Lord, a casual Natsu was getting beaten by Aria, who is weaker than Gajeel, but the second Erza tells him to lock in and let his emotions run wild, he turns into a beast and takes down someone above Aria. Erza even states that if Natsu truly gets serious, his power surpasses even herself, which has been shown to be true. Later on in the Battle for Fairy Tail, we see this again. Laxus repeatedly one-shots Base Natsu like he's a joke 90% of the time, but the second Natsu has to fight Laxus for real. Like when Laxus is a true threat, suddenly Natsu's punching back and tanking a bunch of attacks. This same kind of thing happens over and over again. This reaches it's absolute peak in Alvarez, where Natsu verbatim states he's fighting to win at any cost. Because of this methodology, he starts matching characters like Zeref and Acnologia whereas his previous more casual state was struggling against Brandish. Ignia as well essentially states Natsu gets stronger when he's emotional.

Natsu can only ever show his true strength against real enemies. Not when he's sparring or wants to have a fight against an S Class Mage, but when it actually matters who wins or not. The Fairy Tail Game, which was produced by Hiro Mashima, also has Natsu tell Laxus that he would never use Lightning Fire Dragon Mode against him in a fight because it would be cheating. Natsu has a completely different mindset when fighting any of his friends in a battle of strength. He holds back and doesn't access that raw emotional power he has deep inside. That's why Hiro says he can't beat them in a one on one fight throughout the series. For 100 Years Quest, he specifically mentions this still MIGHT be the case and Natsu MIGHT not defeat Laxus in a one on one battle... But like, he goes on to say that things like Protagonist Buffs, Temporary Powerups, and Emotion Boosts do NOT apply to this scale, meaning he's essentially only talking about Base Natsu and maybe FDKM Natsu, meaning Dragon Force and any other Emotion Amps are not limited to characters like Laxus, who TBH ain't weak at this point considering he's much stronger than he was even at the start of 100YQ.

Point being... A Natsu who goes all out and is in a serious mindset is still the strongest member of Fairy Tail and always will be when it matters... He just can't ever be that against his friends, because he would never truly want to beat them the way he would against Zeref, Ignia, or Acnologia
 
DailyFairy said:
I nor Mitch said that. The claim was that he cannot go all out against his Guildmates, which showing him beating Makarov, who is not part of the statement Mashima made, is not a point of evidence against that. Especially when it is very obvious Natsu isn't going at anywhere near his full power, and proceeds to one shot Makarov
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If he uses one of his most powerful spells even against Makarov, he will use it to an even greater extent when fighting with stronger friends. Don't you understand what you're writing?
 
I already don't agree as I've said, especially since King's demolition fist hasn't been one of his stronger spells for about a decade at this point, it's just become his standard punch spell. If he used a mode or a secret art, you'd have a leg to stand on, but you don't.

Anyway, I don't care to argue with you again, especially since this doesn't actually impact the scaling, so I'm just gonna go back to ignoring you 🏃💨
 
DailyFairy said:
C4 is the attack Deidara used on Sasuke to disintegrate his body on a cellular level with micro bombs
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Ohhh.

I mean Simon has "tanked" Etherion which destroys matter to the smallest particles so like I don't think that does anything either
 
Saqphire said:
Ohhh.

I mean Simon has "tanked" Etherion which destroys matter to the smallest particles so like I don't think that does anything either
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You talking about Jellal? Cause I don't remember anything about Simon's body after it falls down the tower when Erza tries to escape with Natsu
 
DailyFairy said:
You talking about Jellal? Cause I don't remember anything about Simon's body after it falls down the tower when Erza tries to escape with Natsu
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No I mean Simon. He died from the Etherion blast, but his body wasn't sub-atomised
 
DailyFairy said:
I already don't agree as I've said, especially since King's demolition fist hasn't been one of his stronger spells for about a decade at this point, it's just become his standard punch spell. If he used a mode or a secret art, you'd have a leg to stand on, but you don't.

Anyway, I don't care to argue with you again, especially since this doesn't actually impact the scaling, so I'm just gonna go back to ignoring you 🏃💨
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This is still his strongest technique, which he always has access to, except for the mode that op used against Aldoron. What are you talking about?
 
DemonGodMitchAubin said:
So Regular Natsu ~ Erza, Laxus, Gildarts, but when serious and using transformations and emotion boosts, he far above
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Well he also says at the end if Natsu and Laxus were to one v one, Laxus would win, so the balance is definitely something like Natsu < Erza, Laxus, Gildarts < Emotion Amp Natsu

I'm not sure what "Protagonist Buffs" refer to other than the power of friendship tbh.
 
DemonGodMitchAubin said:
That's why Hiro says he can't beat them in a one on one fight throughout the series. For 100 Years Quest, he specifically mentions this still MIGHT be the case and Natsu MIGHT not defeat Laxus in a one on one battle... But like, he goes on to say that things like Protagonist Buffs, Temporary Powerups, and Emotion Boosts do NOT apply to this scale, meaning he's essentially only talking about Base Natsu and maybe FDKM Natsu, meaning Dragon Force and any other Emotion Amps are not limited to characters like Laxus, who TBH ain't weak at this point considering he's much stronger than he was even at the start of 100YQ.
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nvm just read all this lol
 
Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
Is there any official information on character heights?
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There's figures and such for Gray and Erza that have them at 183cm and 171 cm, only 3 inches apart, which is relatively consistent with how they're portrayed along with a good amount of height charts to show how characters compare to others

(Sometimes it's a bit odd, cause Juvia figures also have her at 171 cm even though she's the same height as Lucy and Mira and all 3 are visibly shorter than Erza, but eh, heights are hard to keep consistent 100% of the time)
 
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