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UNDERTALE/DELTARUNE [shiny new] DISCUSSION THEAD

Qurbonboev said:
2. But I would argue that if Tenna trying to lawmanip Knight actually happened ingame, it would be repeat of Frisk vs Sans. Knight seemingly has immense knowledge of how Deltarune and DEVICE works. She knows that killing SOUL would just sent back everything to previous SAVE FILE, so instead she knocks us instead. She knows our FoV(5D being), so it's possible for her to avoid our view, while being close.
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I don't think it would work either, but the reasons given here are pretty much gobbledygook that doesn't actually prove anything (also, "she," ouch, man)
 
Randomuser3412 said:
I don't think it would work either, but the reasons given here are pretty much gobbledygook that doesn't actually prove anything
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1. I think Knight would just break 4th wall if Tenna would try to use Rouxls Caard. It's just my hunch
Randomuser3412 said:
also, "she," ouch, man
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2 most likely candidates for Knight are girls. But if you prefer "it", ok.
LittleGuy99 said:
So... is it still possible to restrict Kris's ability to save and load? Without it ending in fun and games
I say this because of this
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Kris's ability can be restricted(it's just "likely"). Player ability to do so? No. Only TRUE RESET can be restricted
 
LittleGuy99 said:
I ask because if that's the case, Kris and the Delta Warriors' normal matchups could return
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Well, sure, it's the same as any other "likely" ability. It shouldn't be "likely," but it is. If anyone wants it to not be able to be restricted, go make a CRT about it.
 
Randomuser3412 said:
Kris's Immortality type 8 is what lets the Player revive them. If you restrict it, the Player can't do anything.
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I am gonna do short CRT to fix this mistake.

You can technically restrict this for now, but it wouldn't help. Player resurrecting Kris is just after effect of its(and Gaster) ability to manipulate time, which you can't restrict
 
Qurbonboev said:
I am gonna do short CRT to fix this mistake.

You can technically restrict this for now, but it wouldn't help. Player resurrecting Kris is just after effect of its(and Gaster) ability to manipulate time, which you can't restrict
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Hey... buddy... That's the Immortality type 8, the thing you just said could be restricted.
 
Randomuser3412 said:
Hey... buddy... That's the Immortality type 8, the thing you just said could be restricted.
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Generally speaking the player could anulate everything if they just by quiting and try new file due information being reseted and stuff

Also tenna should be able to hurt caine due caine having "concience" and stuff
 
Echidnacodefan2512 said:
kokoro-jp.com

What is 'Kokoro'? A meaning beyond "heart" or “spirit” - Kokoro Media

Kokoro is a Japanese word that is often translated as “heart” or “spirit,” but its meaning goes a little further than that.
kokoro-jp.com

You guys should make the "soul" manipulation be able to hurt on information level
Due affecting the mind "aka" the concience since undertale
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I'll ask you one question: when is whatever a "kokoro" is ever mentioned in Undertale or Deltarune.
 
Randomuser3412 said:
Hey... buddy... That's the Immortality type 8, the thing you just said could be restricted.
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Play Knight fight(which starts after Tenna "death") and after losing to it, load back previous SAVE. Tenna is now alive again, PLAYER resurrected him.
Ability to resurrect dead is just after effect of someone being able to sent timeline back in time. It can't be restricted, no more than ability to vaporise objects can be restricted to fire manip users
 
Qurbonboev said:
Play Knight fight(which starts after Tenna "death") and after losing to it, load back previous SAVE. Tenna is now alive again, PLAYER resurrected him.
Ability to resurrect dead is just after effect of someone being able to sent timeline back in time. It can't be restricted, no more than ability to vaporise objects can be restricted to fire manip users
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According to Kris's profile, it can be restricted, 100%.
 
Echidnacodefan2512 said:
Yeah but if object can affect your soul through magic they probally affect information

And we have spirit that are objects by the way.
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What did Occam use to shave his beard?
Echidnacodefan2512 said:
Also tenna should be able to hurt caine due caine having "concience" and stuff
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Inorganic Physiology type 2 gives immunity to Mind Manipulation and Soul Manipulation. Even if you use the "kokoro" or whatever, Tenna's Soul Manipulation won't do anything to him.
 
Randomuser3412 said:
That's like... an insane leap in logic to give characters info manip for severe damage taken in the Dark World carrying over to the Light World. Not even substantiated by anything? Is this just your own headcanon?
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If magic is something that show that is connected with the persona (susie rude element and her affinity to chaos) it is something else and probally not just headcanon.
 
images

Kris dreemurr:
 
I know Titan was just revised, but what do people think about some of the things mentioned in my thread?

vsbattles.com

Deltarune Titan possibly additions needed

Should Titan be given "Possible Death Manipulation," as Ralsei implies at the end of Chapter 2 at least some Darkners will be killed when at least one Titan fully spawns in the Light World? And should the Titan's Darkness Manipulation be buffed since a Titan can coat a whole planet with it, or...
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