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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

Violatas said:
All imma say is if you make that a thread, I better see you as the main Rimuru rep
No ducking either 🔫
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[1-0-0] Once they get to know us, people dig us - LN Rimuru Tempest vs Anos Voldigoad

Both sides have access to an SSD with all Chess books ever written up until 2026 Both sides had 20s of prep They are playing at home in chess.com with a neutral arbiter beside each (for flavoring sake, Le Batteur is beside Rimuru and Le Juge is beside Anos, both with H-1A+ ∞layer sticks) Their...
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bonus round:
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[0-0-2] "Webway"? Ah, you mean killing trillions and your sons... - LN Rimuru Tempest vs The Emperor Of Mankind

Both sides have access to an SSD with all Chess books ever written up until 2026 Both sides had 20s of prep Emp is in the Warp, he sends his plays telepathically to Guilliman They are playing at home in chess.com with a neutral arbiter beside each (for flavoring sake, Le Batteur is beside Rimuru...
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So I'm gathering scans from Slime Diaries and I have to ask, how does Rimuru get this brief vision of the future about Tempest getting massacred
I don't think that was ever explained
 
@Astral_Trinity439 fix ref
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Rimuru Tempest (Light Novel)

Rimuru Tempest (リムル＝テンペスト, Rimuru Tenpesuto?), formerly known as Satoru Mikami (三上みかみ悟さとる, Mikami Satoru?), is the main protagonist of Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken. He is an Otherworlder reincarnated as a slime, and the sworn friend of the Storm Dragon Veldora Tempest. He is the founder and...
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TWILIGHT-OP said:
@Astral_Trinity439 fix ref
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Rimuru Tempest (Light Novel)

Rimuru Tempest (リムル＝テンペスト, Rimuru Tenpesuto?), formerly known as Satoru Mikami (三上みかみ悟さとる, Mikami Satoru?), is the main protagonist of Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken. He is an Otherworlder reincarnated as a slime, and the sworn friend of the Storm Dragon Veldora Tempest. He is the founder and...
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Done
Istg, copying from clipboard onto wiki on mobile is so ahh 😭
Sometimes it doesn't register the text when saved, sometimes it displaces it.
 
Violatas said:
So I'm gathering scans from Slime Diaries and I have to ask, how does Rimuru get this brief vision of the future about Tempest getting massacred
I don't think that was ever explained
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Most likely just a hunch/instinct
Diaries stories are developed by its manga author. Though Fuse still oversees all the stuff and it has to go through him
 
Praveen_tempest said:
Can someone please tell me what does initialize heaven and beginning eden do? And please show me scan.( Because i reboot my phone today and got all the data deleted 😭).
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So here's an explanation in terms of terminology:

  • Selection: the act of bringing over selected beings to the next world. Their existence alone is preserved and everything else is destroyed.
  • Initialize Heaven: Destroys all worlds and all dimensions. Done without Void Collapse. Cannot do Selection.
  • Beginning Eden: Capable of creating/recreating everything, capable of Selection. Done with Void Collapse
 
Astral_Trinity439 said:
So here's an explanation in terms of terminology:

  • Selection: the act of bringing over selected beings to the next world. Their existence alone is preserved and everything else is destroyed.
  • Initialize Heaven: Destroys all worlds and all dimensions. Done without Void Collapse. Cannot do Selection.
  • Beginning Eden: Capable of creating/recreating everything, capable of Selection. Done with Void Collapse
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Thanks for easy explanation 👍 and can you tell me what primitive magic?
 
Friends! Let's vote to get cool matches in our dear Rimuru's profile!

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[1-0-0] Once they get to know us, people dig us - LN Rimuru Tempest vs Anos Voldigoad

Both sides have access to an SSD with all Chess books ever written up until 2026 Both sides had 20s of prep They are playing at home in chess.com with a neutral arbiter beside each (for flavoring sake, Le Batteur is beside Rimuru and Le Juge is beside Anos, both with H-1A+ ∞layer sticks) Their...
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[0-0-2] "Webway"? Ah, you mean killing trillions and your sons... - LN Rimuru Tempest vs The Emperor Of Mankind

Both sides have access to an SSD with all Chess books ever written up until 2026 Both sides had 20s of prep Emp is in the Warp, he sends his plays telepathically to Guilliman They are playing at home in chess.com with a neutral arbiter beside each (for flavoring sake, Le Batteur is beside Rimuru...
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Violatas said:
We'll likely get confirmation that Rimuru can use Primitive Magic in one of the after stories
Gonna be awhile though...
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He should be able. Primitive Magic is something that already existed for a long time and Rimuru ate Memory, which contained all possible information about everything from the past. So Ciel 100% already hacked it and added to Rimuru's arsenal.

Ciel also was conscious after leaving Rimuru's body, so she actually witnessed Veldanava performing it so she could analyze it even then since magic is way easier to analyze than ultimate skills. I don't remember if Ciel was inside of Veldanava when she was messing with Lucia, but if she was, then there is even more reasons to believe that Ciel analyzed it.
 
Ultimuru said:
He should be able. Primitive Magic is something that already existed for a long time and Rimuru ate Memory, which contained all possible information about everything from the past. So Ciel 100% already hacked it and added to Rimuru's arsenal.

Ciel also was conscious after leaving Rimuru's body, so she actually witnessed Veldanava performing it so she could analyze it even then since magic is way easier to analyze than ultimate skills. I don't remember if Ciel was inside of Veldanava when she was messing with Lucia, but if she was, then there is even more reasons to believe that Ciel analyzed it.
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I agree he very likely has it, though would def prefer something saying it outright xd
 
Astral_Trinity439 said:
He can already
Bro absorbed it
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He did, but Rimuru himself said he couldn't analyze it even after absorbing it since he didn't have Ciel which is my only hang-up. Ideally I'd def like something saying Ciel analyzed it between everything that was happening.
Again though I know its technically "likely" so as far as the profiles go I'm not particularly against him having it given he absorbed Leverger and Memory
 
Astral_Trinity439 said:
Basically magic that can work in any condition and in any location
Whether it's time stop or the End of the world, or any other condition, it will work
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『時間が流れぬのでは、蘇生魔法どころか魔法そのものが使えぬ。打つ手なしじゃ……』
時間という概念から解き放たれてしまえば、全ての法則(ルール)が違ってくる。それに則った戦い方に不慣れな者は、何一つとして役立てないのだ。

“If time does not flow, then not only resurrection magic, but magic itself cannot be used. There’s nothing we can do…”

Once freed from the concept of time, all laws (rules) become fundamentally different. Those unfamiliar with fighting under such conditions cannot make use of anything at all.
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ラミリスに出来るのなら、ヴェルダナーヴァだって使えて当然だ。
　そう思い当たった俺に、ギィが教えてくれた。
『[原初の魔法][プリミティブマジック]だな。時間の概念すら関係ない、純然たる力だ』
　時間の概念もない──って、どこでも使える法則操作みたいなものか？
エネルギー消耗もなさそうだし、卑怯極まりない力だな……。
『ちなみに、今のアタシでも、あの規模は無理なのよさ……』
俺の力を借りて大人の姿になったラミリスでも、天を埋めるほどの魔法を打ち消すのは不可能だという。
　そりゃあ、そうだろうなと思ったので、そこまで気落ちしなかった。
『──燃え盛れ、原初の炎よ──』
　ヴェルダナーヴァの魔法が構築されていく。
今のままでも十分だろうに、その数が更に増えていった。
　時間経過がないが、効果が顕現するまで認識出来たので、『〝情報子〟の移動速度は一定である』という法
則は〝原初の魔法(プリミティブマジック〟でも無視出来ないみたいだな。

“That’s Primitive Magic. A pure power that isn’t bound even by the concept of time.”
Not bound by time… so is it like law manipulation that can be used anywhere?
It doesn’t even seem to consume energy—what a completely unfair power…
“By the way, even I can’t pull off something on that scale right now…”
Even Ramiris, who had taken on an adult form with my help, said she couldn’t negate magic vast enough to fill the sky.
Well, that figured, so it didn’t discourage me too much.
“—Burn, primordial flames—”
Veldanava’s magic continued to take shape.
It was already more than enough as it was, yet their number kept increasing further.
There’s no passage of time, yet I could still perceive the moment the effect manifested—so it seems that even “Primitive Magic” cannot ignore the rule that “the movement speed of information particles is constant.”
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行使するのは、[原初の魔法][プリミティブマジック]だ。

願うだけで奇跡を起こすという、法則の通用しない世界でも効果が発揮される至高の力だった。

What she used was Primitive Magic.
It was the supreme power that could bring about miracles simply by wishing—effective even in worlds where laws no longer applied.
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As soon as we get Rimuru's profile up to date, I'm really interested in discussing WN vs LN xd. With current tier 2 standards seems like LN gonna have an AP advantage at least ignoring potential tier 1 args?
Def gonna moreso be a hax off tho
 
Hey guys, I was looking at an update that came out with a CRT, which added this to Carrion's profile: Lifting Strength: Class E (Comparable to Apito who can withstand the gravitational force of a massive star from a certain distance). And following the same logic, shouldn't Rimuru have the same in his key, since Rimuru is superior to him? Rimuru's profile looks like this: Lifting Strength: Class 100 (Comparable to Ranga who can toss around tanks), Class M with Sticky Steel Thread (Can endure the weight of over a 1000 tons), etc... . Someone might have forgotten to add it, or maybe I'm wrong. This is the CRT:

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(Accepted) Tensura LS calculation implementation

Introduction I've decided to take a little break from my Minor Ability Addictions and do some other stuff This is further amplified by the inactivity of the original creator of this calc, so I decided to take action instead Verse: Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Light Novel Affected profiles...
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Edit: And I apologize if I wrote anything wrong (I used Google Translate, and it's been a while since I've been here, so I forgot most of the rules).
 
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RimuruTempestLN said:
Hey guys, I was looking at an update that came out with a CRT, which added this to Carrion's profile: Lifting Strength: Class E (Comparable to Apito who can withstand the gravitational force of a massive star from a certain distance). And following the same logic, shouldn't Rimuru have the same in his key, since Rimuru is superior to him? Rimuru's profile looks like this: Lifting Strength: Class 100 (Comparable to Ranga who can toss around tanks), Class M with Sticky Steel Thread (Can endure the weight of over a 1000 tons), etc... . Someone might have forgotten to add it, or maybe I'm wrong. This is the CRT:

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(Accepted) Tensura LS calculation implementation

Introduction I've decided to take a little break from my Minor Ability Addictions and do some other stuff This is further amplified by the inactivity of the original creator of this calc, so I decided to take action instead Verse: Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Light Novel Affected profiles...
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Edit: And I apologize if I wrote anything wrong (I used Google Translate, and it's been a while since I've been here, so I forgot most of the rules).
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They prolly forgot
Imma edit it later in a few hours if no one else does it before me
 
Violatas said:
As soon as we get Rimuru's profile up to date, I'm really interested in discussing WN vs LN xd. With current tier 2 standards seems like LN gonna have an AP advantage at least ignoring potential tier 1 args?
Def gonna moreso be a hax off tho
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I would say both have equally good hax, though WN Anagram magic....
 
Praveen_tempest said:
Does rimuru existence everywhere? Because in this video he is saying something like that,
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Dude interprets wrong digital lifeforms. DLs are made out of infons and infons indeed exist everywhere. But that doesn't mean Rimuru exist everywhere with them. He can transfer himself anywhere he wants in 0 seconds, but it's not omnipresence as this guy described it.
 
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