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UNDERTALE/DELTARUNE [shiny new] DISCUSSION THEAD

Echidnacodefan2512 said:
The egg man requires you walk bettewen two room to try find a third room that dont exist there.

"Between the room with the Starwalker Bird and the darkening room, there is a very small chance (1/50 or 2%) of entering a hidden place between the two areas."
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But the player has no control over that
 
LittleGuy99 said:
But the player has no control over that
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We do that in battle tho

Against jevil through kris pirouette

Kris spun around! Jevil got slightly more TIRED, and...! [Pirouette]
It was just foley! [Turn 1, nothing happens]
Jevil felt at ease! Jevil's defense dropped! [Turn 2, lowers Jevil's defense by 4 unless already below -16]
Awkward! Upcoming attack will hurt rapidly! [Turn 3, 60% fewer invincibility frames for this turn]
Tranquil! The dance defended the party! [Turn 4, decreases Jevil's Attack by 30% for this turn]
What! It's nothing but a useless bird! [Turn 5, nothing happens]
It felt comforting! [Turn 6, 25-55 HP heal to a random party member]
Everyone's HP got jumbled up! [Turn 7]
Jevil's upcoming move got powered up! [Turn 8, increases Jevil's Attack by 25% for this turn]
A perfect 10! [Turn 9, 36-50 HP heal to all party members]

Like what are the odds a bird to appears middle of the battle ?
 
Echidnacodefan2512 said:
The egg man requires you walk bettewen two room to try find a third room that dont exist there.

"Between the room with the Starwalker Bird and the darkening room, there is a very small chance (1/50 or 2%) of entering a hidden place between the two areas."
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It would be a probability manipulation if we did somehow change probability of entering that egg room. But no, we just try to enter this room again and again, till we succeed.

Is there anybody who want to support Gerson in fight against Maou Gakuin character (series with Anos in it).
(Also this fight already ended with Knight W, but she needs another 3 votes for it to be added to profiles).
 
CRT to slightly change sizes for battlebox
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Small tweaks to size measurements - Undertale

Goal of this CRT is change by a small amount current size measurements for Undertale Battlebox. Everything is here: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Qurbonboev/Sizescaling To make it easier to visualise: Current pixelscaling: My pixelscaling:
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kanye-stare.jpg


Hope I didn't miss anything important
 
Eden_Warlock99 said:
How long has it been lol
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Technically only a little over 2 years. I think?
Well, I suppose all the supporters are in favor of the current changes made while I was gone. I'd have to personally read the arguments for the new ratings, because being close minded will get me nowhere.
 
GodlyCharmander said:
kanye-stare.jpg


Hope I didn't miss anything important
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Hello.
Toby was outed as chud racist, who makes games exclusively for Aryans and Honorary Aryans. Now UTDR is problematic media that shouldn't have fandom.
At least status of JP translation as canonical was solidified.
 
Qurbonboev said:
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The JP translation gives clarity to the Sans dialogue about timelines stopping and starting, by clarifying that the timelines "pause and then resume", effectively debunking the very idea that Resets create a brand new timeline/branch.

Yes, this was the sole evidence of Resets having that capability. Every other evidence only proved more than one timeline exists at the same time, which is moot.
 
GodlyCharmander said:
The JP translation gives clarity to the Sans dialogue about timelines stopping and starting, by clarifying that the timelines "pause and then resume", effectively debunking the very idea that Resets create a brand new timeline/branch.

Yes, this was the sole evidence of Resets having that capability. Every other evidence only proved more than one timeline exists at the same time, which is moot.
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Soo loops and retcon can be real ? Neat
 
StrymULTRA said:
All that confidence is surely something, to say the least.
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You're more than welcome to present different arguments for resets causing timelines to birth. I'm just saying you will probably not use that one anymore.

Of course, if more exists, then I won't have a problem with keeping the rating.
 
Qurbonboev said:
Unless SAVE/LOAD and RESET creates new timelines, all our time manipulation is basically just retconning
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Oh. I mean, I guess. It'd be basically time travel.

But truly, if not for the Sans dialogue, what other evidence do we have that these abilities, which on the surface appear to travel in time, can also create new timelines?
 
GodlyCharmander said:
Oh. I mean, I guess. It'd be basically time travel.

But truly, if not for the Sans dialogue, what other evidence do we have that these abilities, which on the surface appear to travel in time, can also create new timelines?
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The egg man or even the dog hole in 10 anivesary.

Or even propechy
 
GodlyCharmander said:
Oh. I mean, I guess. It'd be basically time travel.

But truly, if not for the Sans dialogue, what other evidence do we have that these abilities, which on the surface appear to travel in time, can also create new timelines?
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Boomer still thinks that someone cares about whether SAVE/LOAD creates new timelines or not.
Get up with times, starts Echidnaposting now
 
GodlyCharmander said:
You're more than welcome to present different arguments for resets causing timelines to birth. I'm just saying you will probably not use that one anymore.

Of course, if more exists, then I won't have a problem with keeping the rating.
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The only thing you'll be keeping is both that notion and a good ol' discussion rule on the matter. It's been a long back and forth on this exact argument ever since 2020 which everyone is tired of, as the discussion and arguments are always the same.

I indeed am aware of the Japanese version, heck I've even used it in the current cosmology blog, but I genuinely cannot see why it debunks the idea of it traveling between different timelines, I think you're too much tunnel visioned here.

Nonetheless, the amount of timelines is irrelevant rn as Qurbon said, given the existence of the Low 1-C Game World via Hypertime anyway
 
StrymULTRA said:
The only thing you'll be keeping is both that notion and a good ol' discussion rule on the matter. It's been a long back and forth on this exact argument ever since 2020 which everyone is tired of, as the discussion and arguments are always the same.

I indeed am aware of the Japanese version, heck I've even used it in the current cosmology blog.
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So there isn't a new piece of evidence, is what I'm hearing?

Also, nope. The reason my previous CRT to debunk it didn't go through is literally because people in that thread disregarded the Japanese translation despite it being the strongest counterpoint to the current interpretation.

Either way, I'll be waiting when that CRT is made in the near future.
StrymULTRA said:
Nonetheless, the amount of timelines is irrelevant rn as Qurbon said, given the existence of the Low 1-C Game World via Hypertime anyway
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It doesn't matter. I don't care about the actual rating, but the accuracy of the cosmology should be fixed nonetheless.

I'll evaluate the Low 1-C argument as well, but I will most likely agree with it.
 
Robo432343 said:
Strym you should be happy to debate someone on a verse you're passionate about
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Someone equally as passionate too, btw. Even though I've seen the take that "downgrading a verse means you hate it" in the past. Which I disagree, I love Undertale, I want it to be accurate. Obviously the concept of accuracy will change from person to person, but still.
 
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