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Berserk General Discussion Thread
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I don’t think it makes sense to split up Zodd like that. We don’t have any evidence his power changed much. It’s more of an inconsistency. Plus it would affect other pages too. Skull Knight would then require a page division, considering the history with Zodd. I would just leave it unless you have evidence he grew a lot stronger.
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Can any Apostles scale to this feat who don't already have 8-A?
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If true:
THANK YOU GOD
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Do not piss me off.
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Griffith Vs Denji (Berserk Vs Chainsaw Man) - Dream Battle
Griffith Denji Rules Human Griffith vs Pre-Training Denji Denji is restricted to human form Speed equalized SBA Overview Denji scales to 28.11648 MJ physically. Griffith scales 8.5745 MJ physically and has far higher piercing damage. Denji scales to 1.86 Metric Tons & Griffith scales to 10.41...
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Bruh, I hate April Fool
Would be nice to eventually get another anime adaptation one day lol. It’s crazy how Berserk has only significantly progressed past the Golden Age arc in the shittiest adaptation (2016). The movies only cover the Golden Age, and 97 has one episode in the Black Swordsman Arc lmao.
This will probably never happen, but if they make an another anime meant to run multiple seasons, I’d want the first season to be around 24 episodes and cover the Black Swordsman Arc & Golden Age together.
Since the Black Swordsman Arc is short anyways they could have six episodes that cover it split into halves. The worst sin the 97' series did was leave in boring ass Snake Lord, while cutting the Count lol.
Just have the first half of the Black Swordsman arc reach the part where the Count first appears. Then abbreviate the explanation Guts gives to Vargas about the Godhand so it doesn’t explicitly give away Femto = Griffith. When Vargas dies use it to trigger the Golden Age flashback.
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I was thinking about adding potential changes into a sandbox for anyone to use in future revisions. I’m trying to find the justification for Type 1 Apostle immortality, I was thinking about gathering scans for a far future physiology page.
Lastly, this is just a personal preference, but I think Griffith should have Unknown physical LS for now. This is one area where the distinction between Incarnated Griffith & his Abstract Femto form really matter for stats.
Lastly, this is just a personal preference, but I think Griffith should have Unknown physical LS for now. This is one area where the distinction between Incarnated Griffith & his Abstract Femto form really matter for stats.
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Got a scan here is it helps.
Agree with Keys, not the Unknown LS. Griffith is above Ganishka in everyway. He should scale above him in LS
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I’m trying to think if Incarnated Griffith has any physical feats? I’d be fine with his TK being above Ganishka, but not 100% of the LS bc we’ve seen that’s he’s still somewhat inhibited by sharing the body with Moonlight Boy.
If you look at the fight between Shiva Ganishka and Griffith, he beats him while taking the appearance of his Femto form. This kinda matters because the area around Ganishka already distorts the barrier between physical and astral planes because of the artificial behelit.
If you look at this statement from Ganishka and compare it to Guts attacking Griffith, he does what Ganishka thought impossible by severing a strand of hair. Seems as though, his Incarnated body is somewhat weaker, but he can still draw on his Astral Powers.
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Thanks for the link by the way, I’m hoping to make a version specifically for Apostles. Btw the blog is missing Hax like Corruption, I know Griffith already has this, but all beings tied to the IoE also have this, which is why anyone killed by an Apostle also goes to Hell lmao
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Griffith Vs Satan (Berserk Vs Devilman Crybaby)
Griffith Vs Satan Please dont be a stomp Rules Femto is used Speed equalized SBA Votes Griffith: Satan:
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Berserk: Serpico de Vandimion Rework
Current page Rework Changes In general I've added better justifications, scans and references. Abilities Base: Analytical Prediction Preparation Social Influencing (Deception) Accelerated Development (Abilities) Pick-Pocketing Enhanced senses Sylph Cloak & Sword: Magic Removed Energy...
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Serpico Vs Griffith (Berserk)
Serpico Vs Griffith Now that they're both reworked let’s do this. This shouldn’t be a stomp for sure this time. Rules Human Griffith and Base Serpico are used Speed equalized SBA Overview Griffith scales to 8.574 MJ physically and far higher with piercing damage. Serpico downscales from 2.45...
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Shouldn't Griffith upscale to this: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:ElJoaki5/Berserk:_The_Great_Roar_of_the_Astral_World
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Unfortunately not. The Roar of the Astral World isn’t something anyone scales to. This was already rejected because it’s a chain reaction that required specific conditions. If it only required power, Femto could’ve done it himself.
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what can we say about the sword slash itself?
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There is wank to get the God Hand way above Tier 6 or 5, but I need to do some research first to make sure its solid
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The slash wouldn’t upgrade anyone either. Femto already scales above Shiva Ganishka. Literally no one is able to scale to the feat including Skull Knight, because the cut used Spatial Dura Negation, and the sword was specially made for killing the Godhand. The other high tier feats above High 7-A are kinda vague. There are 6-C storms, but without UES there’s no upgrade, Astral Roar [High 6-A] and the Low 5-B Eclipse. The Eclipse is the best bet, but there’s no solid evidence that the Godhand can replicate that either.
Though in better news, we have some rationale for Class M apostles, since Wyald has this feat in his base that was never applied. This means we get Class M Zodd in base. Also means Class M Guts for End of Golden Age and beyond, since Wyald had to bite him to break his grip.
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Does anyone happen to have the canonical Apostle heights or Golden Age Guts’ height?
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I've been going over the guidebook, it has some interesting information. Any Apostle who are currently scales from Mozgus, using this kind of argument “As a true apostle, should be superior to the likes of Mozgus" need their justification revised. We have confirmation that Apostles aren’t inherently stronger than Pseudo Apostles, and he’s shown as the example.
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I mean there is more to that, but UES Magic first
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The Mozgus thing isn’t that important, rn I’m just gathering scans in a sandbox. What is the evidence for UES?
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There is some statements that the Apostle use magic in Berserk and it gives them their strength and speed, or something like that. I haven't really been collecting the scans
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If any of you make CRTs I don't like, I'm gonna have Adi Shankar adapt Berserk.
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Berserk speed calc fixes
Rosine vs Guts This calc Vapor cones aren’t usable for finding speed anymore. Her speed should be changed to Mach 1.1, due to being at least supersonic, for the second part of the calc. Time: 4.50892334028/(1.1*343) = 0.01195049917 s Speed: 3.20442450666/0.01195049917 = 268.141477697 m/s Mach...
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What speed caps do you have in mind?
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If you have time, I’m curious what the source was. I read the guidebook a bit ago, and I’m curious if I missed something.
Even if we accept UES, I’m not sure the Eclipse would be scalable to anyone’s tier outside of the Idea of Evil.
I don’t think this statement applies to the Behelits anyways, because they come from the IoE's power. It’s not something the Godhand can do on a whim as far as we know.
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Mach 1 for conviction Guts and lightning speed for berserker
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Where does the lightning speed cap come from? I assume the Mach 1 is from the Rosine fight
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Pushing small planetary ioe with this lowk
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It’s already on the page as environmental destruction. You’d still need to argue UES I think.
I think the Idea of Evil should scale to it though, since it sets all of the rituals. The Godhand probably shouldn’t
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Berserk: I am The Idea of Evil, The Desired God (Rework)
Current Page Rework Changes Basically changed everything. In general I've added better justifications, explanations, references and scans. Abilities Non-Physical Interaction Extrasensory Perception Probability Manipulation (This is already in Griffith's profile) Limited Fusionism and...
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