The Frauds are back, Back Again. -Alastor vs Sukuna- Rematch 0-8 Grace

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

Rematch of this


Rules: Same as Last one
•Alastor has access to Angelic Weaponry
•Sukuna's first key is used
•Battle takes place in Shibuya
•Distance is 20 meters from eachother
•Speed equalized
•"Weakened" Alastor is used
•Alastor is in his Demon Form
•Possibly Soul Manipulation is restricted for Sukuna

Alastor:
Scales to 73.68 Tons of TNT
Scales to 504.86 Metric Tons, Higher with Tentacles

Sukuna: @Anonymous_Learner, @Aytugsss, @Arkenis, @ARandomDude127, @Doggo, @MannyQ361, @Qurbonboev, @Mommyleona
Scales to 73.8 Tons of TNT
Scales to 2.45 tons

 

[Doggo]

Eat pant

Can Alastor see Sukuna's slashes?

 

[Aytugsss]

Alostor take this

 

[Doggo]

Alostor take this

Explain

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Alostor take this

 

[Doggo]

Sukuna Deez Nuts

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

Explain

Because Alostor is the goat and solos both Alastor and Sukuna

 

[Doggo]

Because Alostor is the goat and solos both Alastor and Sukuna

Such evil

 

[Aytugsss]

Explain

Has better ability thats why
He can protect himself from normal slash he has enough durability for it and sukuna can use domain because alostor doesnt has cursed energy
And angel weapons can damage sukuna because alostor has enough ap
And sukuna cant regenerate from these attacks because angel weapons has low godly regen negate

 

[Doggo]

Alostor

 

[Mommyleona]

Has better ability thats why

No

He can protect himself from normal slash

He can't even perceive them

he has enough durability for it

Sukuna's slashes can slice clean through people who are otherwise relative to him

sukuna can use domain because alostor doesnt has cursed energy

Usually it's assumed people have normal human lvl ce in vs match ups, but that doesnt even matter here since Sukuna's domain targets both things with no ce and with ce

 

[Aytugsss]

No

He can't even perceive them

Sukuna's slashes can slice clean through people who are otherwise relative to him

Usually it's assumed people have normal human lvl ce in vs match ups, but that doesnt even matter here since Sukuna's domain targets both things with no ce and with ce

When does is stated that sukunas domain can target people with no ce?
Also why did sukuna cant cut gojo? Or why he cant cut maki with stronger form? With his final form many sorcerers tank attacks from him in the final battle
Arent we use 1 or 2 finger sukuna in there?

 

[Doggo]

I think bro lost the plot

Anyway Alastor seems to have a massive LS advantage, so he wins if he grabs and crushes Sukuna

However, Alastor lacks ways of seeing Sukuna's slashes and dismantle so he ends up getting cut open a lot. But he has regen....which Sukuna should counter via domain

Sukuna should be able to interact with shadows, given that he could affect Megumi's shikigami, which are made of shadows. So he easily bypasses Alastor's intangibility and could cut through his tentacles

 

[Aytugsss]

I think bro lost the plot

Anyway Alastor seems to have a massive LS advantage, so he wins if he grabs and crushes Sukuna

However, Alastor lacks ways of seeing Sukuna's slashes and dismantle so he ends up getting cut open a lot. But he has regen....which Sukuna should counter via domain

Sukuna should be able to interact with shadows, given that he could affect Megumi's shikigami, which are made of shadows. So he easily bypasses Alastor's intangibility and could cut through his tentacles

He cant bypasses alostors intangibilty
Only reason he touch megumis shadows because megumi made it tangible
Thats why sukuna dont have in his profiles
Also sukuna cant use domain unless we make alostor has ce
And still with it, alost can simply block attacks with his shields
And alostor can took damage from Adam who is l5b minimum

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

When does is stated that sukunas domain can target people with no ce?

son...

Also why did sukuna cant cut gojo?

Gojo has infinity, dismantles and cleavea can't touch him unless he uses malevolent shrine

Or why he cant cut maki with stronger form?

he does. he blitzes maki and cuts her in the face with cleave

With his final form many sorcerers tank attacks from him in the final battle

they all have regen, weaken his slashes, or sukuna is uninterested in them

Arent we use 1 or 2 finger sukuna in there?

3F sukuna is being used

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

He cant bypasses alostors intangibilty
Only reason he touch megumis shadows because megumi made it tangible
Thats why sukuna dont have in his profiles

Incorrect, CE literally bypasses intangiblity on the page of Cursed Energy Manipulation
"Non-Physical Interaction (Incorporeality & Intangibility)"

Also sukuna cant use domain unless we make alostor has ce

Every single JJK matchup assumes opponent have the cursed energy of a citezen. But, as shown, it doesn't matter since sukuna's domain is an open barrier one that targets inanimate objects that have no ce

And still with it, alost can simply block attacks with his shields

how can he block something he can't see?

And alostor can took damage from Adam who is l5b minimum

Adam can't be used in anyway in Alastor's scaling since he doesn't scale to him anyway in the current state of the profiles. if he did, he'd be Low 5-B

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Sukuna FRA.

 

[Aytugsss]

son...

Gojo has infinity, dismantles and cleavea can't touch him unless he uses malevolent shrine

he does. he blitzes maki and cuts her in the face with cleave

they all have regen, weaken his slashes, or sukuna is uninterested in them

3F sukuna is being used

son...

Gojo has infinity, dismantles and cleavea can't touch him unless he uses malevolent shrine

he does. he blitzes maki and cuts her in the face with cleave

they all have regen, weaken his slashes, or sukuna is uninterested in them

3F sukuna is being used

İ mean the guy says sukuna clean slash enemy who is the same level as him
Sukuna cant even kill maki while directly attack his face and makinhas no rct let aside ct and sukuna is in his final form there
And sukuna doesnt has ability for touch intangable ting luke shadows stop bringing ability that he doesnt has
Also alostors barrier can protect him from slash and i dont have to say he has regen

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

İ mean the guy says sukuna clean slash enemy who is the same level as him
Sukuna cant even kill maki while directly attack his face and makinhas no rct let aside ct and sukuna is in his final form there

Sukuna being in his True Form doesn't matter when He's so weak from gojo that he can't kill yuta and Yuji, who straight up would've die instantly if gojo hadn't weakened him so much
Also, he was toying with her to savor the fight (somethign he does with everyone) and only beginning to get serious in the fight, hitting her so hard with a black flash it takes her out of the fight for some time.

As for slashing feats, Sukuna could have his arm cracked by mahoraga (enhanced with cursed energy reinforcement) after he adapted to dismantles and could still slice through him. Ryu is relative to 16F sukuna and cpuld still be sliced into by a surpressed dismantle, later dying to a cleave to the head

And sukuna doesnt has ability for touch intangable ting luke shadows stop bringing ability that he doesnt has

"Reggie was able to stand on non-tangible, permeable shadow by reinforcing his feet with cursed energy." If reggie, the guy who isn't a fraction the Jujutsu Genius Sukuna is can do this, what do you think sukuna is doing? This ability is literally on the Cursed Energy Manipulation page, I'm not saying anything he doesn't have

Also alostors barrier can protect him from Slash,

Weakened Alastor never uses his barrier in a fight and Weakened Alastor has nor barrier feats. Given how Sukuna fires dozens of these and they're at least as strong as sukuna, he tears through it like butter

I dont have to say he has regen

So does Sukuna and Alastor, while benefiting his survivability, will also be a detriment as Sukuna will see that Alastor is durable and can regenerate and will pull out his domain expansion, just like he did for the finger bearer, someone far weaker than himself.

 

[ARandomDude127]

So what would stop Sukuna from slicing Alastor to bits with Dismantle or even just popping Domain? Not to mention Alastor wouldn’t be able to see ANY of it due to CTs being invisible, plus Shrine’s layered invisibility on top of that.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

So what would stop Sukuna from slicing Alastor to bits with Dismantle or even just popping Domain? Not to mention Alastor wouldn’t be able to see ANY of it due to CTs being invisible, plus Shrine’s layered invisibility on top of that.

High-Mid regen, Low-Godly overtime keeps al in the fight but he does get shredded Goatkuna

 

[ARandomDude127]

High-Mid regen, Low-Godly overtime keeps al in the fight but he does get shredded Goatkuna

Al’s Low Godly Regen isn’t combat applicable if I’m not reading the profile wrong.

As for high Mid Regen, meh I cant argue with that, though that only holds up for Dismantle and Cleave, Domain would OBLITERATE Al past his Combat Applicable Regeneration’s capabilities.

Obviously Al would eventually come back but we don’t have an actual timeframe for it, so there’s not much reason to assume Al would regen his entire body from nothing fast enough to come back.

And even if he could, now Sukuna has zero way to kill or incapacitate Al and thus this becomes a stomp or an incon

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

it'd make this match inconclusive at worst but a victory for sukuna if it's conceided that Sukuna can kill alastor infinitely as that counts as a win on this site

 

[Aytugsss]

Sukuna being in his True Form doesn't matter when He's so weak from gojo that he can't kill yuta and Yuji, who straight up would've die instantly if gojo hadn't weakened him so much
Also, he was toying with her to savor the fight (somethign he does with everyone) and only beginning to get serious in the fight, hitting her so hard with a black flash it takes her out of the fight for some time.

As for slashing feats, Sukuna could have his arm cracked by mahoraga (enhanced with cursed energy reinforcement) after he adapted to dismantles and could still slice through him. Ryu is relative to 16F sukuna and cpuld still be sliced into by a surpressed dismantle, later dying to a cleave to the head

"Reggie was able to stand on non-tangible, permeable shadow by reinforcing his feet with cursed energy." If reggie, the guy who isn't a fraction the Jujutsu Genius Sukuna is can do this, what do you think sukuna is doing? This ability is literally on the Cursed Energy Manipulation page, I'm not saying anything he doesn't have

Weakened Alastor never uses his barrier in a fight and Weakened Alastor has nor barrier feats. Given how Sukuna fires dozens of these and they're at least as strong as sukuna, he tears through it like butter

So does Sukuna and Alastor, while benefiting his survivability, will also be a detriment as Sukuna will see that Alastor is durable and can regenerate and will pull out his domain expansion, just like he did for the finger bearer, someone far weaker than himself.

Okay thanks for answers
İm changing my vote to sukuna

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Okay thanks for answers
İm changing my vote to sukuna

Welcome, happy to help. Welcome to the sukuna squad

 

[Arkenis]

voting Sukuna

 

[ARandomDude127]

He’s got my vote too

 

[Aytugsss]

Welcome, happy to help. Welcome to the sukuna squad

Thank you ,even tough i blieve alostor would beat sukuna (speed difference) for this thread sukuna can win

 

[ARandomDude127]

(speed difference)

Dunno how much of a factor this is considering speed is equal.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Dunno how much of a factor this is considering speed is equal.

I'm sure they know that. They mean that, if speed was unequalized, Al would win which is like...yeah, of course the guy who's ftl is gonna beat the subsonic character

 

[ARandomDude127]

I'm sure they know that. They mean that, if speed was unequalized, Al would win which is like...yeah, of course the guy who's ftl is gonna beat the subsonic character

Ah. Yeah that parts obvious.

Now put Al against Deltarune characters

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Can't Sukuna target the soul like Yuji does? He was in Yuji when he figured out how to do that and also targeted Mahito himself while in the Inner Domain.

 

[ARandomDude127]

Can't Sukuna target the soul like Yuji does? He was in Yuji when he figured out how to do that and also targeted Mahito himself while in the Inner Domain.

Sukuna’s Soul Manip is only a “Possibly”, so for this argument to work OP would’ve had to specify that Sukuna had access to it iirc.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Ye, he can. It's moreso a different form of NPI but, if nothing is left of Alastor besides his soul, you might be able to that his NPI will allow him to destroy his soul.
I'm not, i feel Sukuna will just kill Alastor so many times he can get the win consistently, but i won't stop anyone from thinking it if they're prepared to argue it well

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Sukuna’s Soul Manip is only a “Possibly”, so for this argument to work OP would’ve had to specify that Sukuna had access to it iirc.

Also, this

 

[Aytugsss]

You get it wrong
İ mean alostor win in actual

Dunno how much of a factor this is considering speed is equal.

You get it wrong
İ mean alostor win in actual fight because of speed difference but in this thread sukuna would win because speed is equal

 

[Doggo]

Sukuna FRA

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Sukuna’s Soul Manip is only a “Possibly”, so for this argument to work OP would’ve had to specify that Sukuna had access to it iirc.

No, actually. OP would have to specifically restrict it for him to not have it here, if I'm not mistaken. As implied per Versus Thread Rules

• It is not fine to restrict abilities in a versus matchup, implicitly or expressly. Matches that are arranged this way should not be added to the character profiles, as they don't involve their full potential, and are only intended for casual entertainment.
  • An exception would be if the restricted ability/technique has a separate tier from the main one, and is one the character can consciously restrict themselves from using. In this case, the match can be added.
  • The match can also be added if Optional Equipment such as optional power-ups and items are restricted, or if the ability being restricted is indexed after a "Likely" or "Possibly" conditional.

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

if it makes the match more debatable imma restrict it them

 

[ARandomDude127]

No, actually. OP would have to specifically restrict it for him to not have it here, if I'm not mistaken. As implied per Versus Thread Rules

So then it’s a stomp because Sukuna would just obliterate Alastor’s soul…

if it makes the match more debatable imma restrict it them

Yeah that’s fair