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I think its just anything above 4D
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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread
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why is he lying this mfer cuts that in half in hsr!
i lowkey expected more bcs skirk used to have class Y from teniss ball sized one
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Cause it’s just a calc for resisting its gravity while that class Y must’ve come from the fact Skirk threw that “black hole” like a tennis ball. (Aka its entire mass)
If Welt did the same to a Star of Eden Black hole he’d also be Class Y since its weight in that calc is over 200 Earths
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they just mentioned anything above 3D if im not wrong
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he did held blsck hole once when he summoned it on sirin in first fight and then summoned from his hand on evil welt joyce so i think its doable
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Welt is the anti feat GOAT. Einstein really had to say essentially class P gravity is a threat to his life
I’ll take a look at those then those could be good (for saving this decrepit verse)
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well he did survive 1 hour and hell he even aura farmed saying “heh dont worry i got this!!” (got no diffed) and with hsr showing him cut black hole in half he should be fine rlyWelt is the anti feat GOAT. Einstein really had to say essentially class P gravity is a threat to his life
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Genshin Star Impact Rail 3rd ahhhh
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Ngl I kinda want to do Nanook vs Anti Spiral due to themes and such (Preventing the universe from evolving to prevent its destruction vs wants to destroy the universe)
Daleks vs Tazzy also lowkey sounds fire.
White Guardian vs Ena for the whole order and stuff
yeah Imma cook some threads (hopefully not stomps)
Daleks vs Tazzy also lowkey sounds fire.
White Guardian vs Ena for the whole order and stuff
yeah Imma cook some threads (hopefully not stomps)
KingOfDarknessBelow
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I wanted to ask regarding a recent scan for the cocoon saying it exist in a realm beyond space and time or something and it being able to control who can take memories from that, would affect any of it scaling or abilities for it?
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Yes, the Sena feats explicitly back what Schrodinger says about the cocoon being higher dimensional than the Tree AND the Imaginary Singularity being dimensionless and the origin of all dimensions.
I'm pretty sure the cocoon is stated to transcend dimensions, with Sena scans you can easily now argue it transcends all mathematical dimensions. There’s probably more.
so it's 1-B at minimum and possibly L1-A or maybe even 1-A, unsure. Part 2 supposedly has more too.
Dw we'll get around to it. Just needing to fix the cosmology atm.
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1-A Cocoon is practically impossible due to how it interacts with SoQ and IT. L1A is more plausible but it’d still be a logistic nightmare
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It has L1A properties at least, only issue is any potential antifeats, but we've already went over this.
The Cocoon of Finality goes after civilisations to embrace, as the Sea's energy effected Venus and wiped everyone out there wasn't really much to embrace with. Vita was the last survivor. The cocoon pretty much left.
Backed by the CoF having Sa which directly harvests power from the Sea. It's 1/10ths of the Cocoon's size (though that seems like a bit of an issue) and HoRB Seele transcends it just like Finality Kiana if I'm remembering that conversation properly.
As with how it interacts with the Tree? I think it doesn't, just Imaginary Space. Eins saying it exists there means jack squat because we now know people can't perceive the CoF without permission and they ascended to the Cocoon via the Herrscher Cores, links to the CoF anyway.
The best guess we have for a place is Eins, but also explicitly calls it dimensionless and capable of effecting all dimensions.
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Using the 1/10th thing wouldn’t that make Sa, Vita, AHR Kevin and AHR Fu Hua Low 1-A in the event that the Cocoon became Low 1-A? Or at least possibly Low 1-A if someone thinks that’s iffy?
Honestly speaking of the general scaling since High 1-C coming back is guaranteed now and is in the more immediate future
Wouldn’t that also make characters of that caliber scale to High 1-C? Or is that not how it works wi multipliers beyond tier 2?
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Pretty sure Woomy wanted to nuke that 1/10 Cocoon multiplier
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Everything getting nuked in this verse besides the cosmology atp
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its mostly because thats a large size feat since they mention that she grows to size comparable to 1/10th of COF, now honestly i can keep the scaling if the Sa absorbing power across entire SoQ is valid but that will still scale to like 5 chars at best
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How does a dimensionless point have a size…
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Because this is hoyoverse and they have dementia because they say CoF is dimensionless,above dimensions>is SoQ victim>Is above Sa who absorbs SoQ>Is above space and time again
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We should’ve known Hoyo writers were on some of the good stuff when they had Welt say Light can’t escape 10000x Earth’s gravity back in AE invasion
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does he not know hes moving fast enough to slice black hole in half without being sucked in!!?!We should’ve known Hoyo writers were on some of the good stuff when they had Welt say Light can’t escape 10000x Earth’s gravity back in AE invasion
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I mean, if Cocoon truly lacks extension and/or is aspatiotemporal, then you could argue that the size only manifests as accidental relations of it, i.e it doesn’t truly have size.
Issue is that the way ya’ll talk about it gives off the impression that Cocoon’s size is intrinsic to it (i.e not accidental). Which um, is rlly cringe.
Issue is that the way ya’ll talk about it gives off the impression that Cocoon’s size is intrinsic to it (i.e not accidental). Which um, is rlly cringe.
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Sahl got a competition bro 
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Tbf he said that when he used the black hole to kill the fake Joyce clonedoes he not know hes moving fast enough to slice black hole in half without being sucked in!!?!
Who isn’t FTL.
Plus Welt is nerfed in that comic.
It’s more just dumb cause black holes are in the billions to trillions of G’s not just 10000g
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Using AI to argue against a revisionSahl got a competition bro
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He just held back with black hole making it 10000gTbf he said that when he used the black hole to kill the fake Joyce clone
Who isn’t FTL.
Plus Welt is nerfed in that comic.
It’s more just dumb cause black holes are in the billions to trillions of G’s not just 10000g
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you can thank nihilux for sending memokeepers across amphoreus since that way we located amphoreus and got us gothic march 7th too
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First black hole which can be resisted by Deku via Lifting strengthHe just held back with black hole making it 10000g
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Shadow of IX was doing a pretty similar thing CoF was doing, but for Izumo… just saying…
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Given we had that Emanator Kiana statement, this is so possible
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Acheron was able to cut cause and effects with Naught, IX should be more potent than this plus that 2.3 dialogue when IX swallowing Acheron's past apparently includes things like causality or some shit like that
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Iirc lifting 4D realm is enough for Immeasurable LS
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Lowkey hope we get a Sampo SP, if not in Planarcadia then maybe in a future Belobog story (we know that Sampo wants his mask to stop a future threat after all)
Hook and Clara SP, who are teenagers, would be fun. Imagine a Rem Clara with an upgraded Svarog as the memosprite lol
and ig an actual explanation of Seele's powers if she also gets a SP lmao
Yanquinq SP, where he is older and a better swordsman, would be sick too
Hook and Clara SP, who are teenagers, would be fun. Imagine a Rem Clara with an upgraded Svarog as the memosprite lol
and ig an actual explanation of Seele's powers if she also gets a SP lmao
Yanquinq SP, where he is older and a better swordsman, would be sick too
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I need a Welt sp, himiko is getting, and he's going to be the only one left out from the express
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If we get Welt SP, then I hope it's when Hoyo finally name drops Honkai and confirms that it is the Stellaron and has him absorb one to regain his Honkai energy lol
I wonder how they will tie in the Hi3rd stuff in the future. We might get Vita and Void Archives afterall
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Welt SP where he has his Herrscher of reason red eyes active and uses the authority of reason would be something I get the E2 for highkey
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Welt SP, where he gets freaky and says 'kneel" in a sultry voice, deserves E67
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